Sound of Freedom - What are they up to?

Anonymous
Any real problem that needs serious people in our society to deal with it seriously actually suffers when crazies take it up as their pet cause. Qanon, with its modern-day blood libel conspiracy theories, has a major credibility problem. And Caviezel has been supporting scary loons since his Mel Gibsoning days.

We all have to evaluate sources for credibility. These guys have none, and can reasonably be suspected of trying to whip up the credulous to attack pizza parlors, government buildings, and who knows what else.
Anonymous
Is this movie really graphic? Schindler's List graphic?
Anonymous
“Before being released in 2023, Sound of Freedom struggled to be made ready for a theatrical release for many years. The script was written in 2015, and the filming finished in 2018. Then, the movie sat on the shelf for almost five years. Sound of Freedom was created to raise awareness about the difficult truths of child sex trafficking. However, the film jumped between studios, including a Disney-owned company, before the filmmakers could bring their story to life on the big screen.”

https://screenrant.com/sound-of-freedom-movie-disney-rights-release/

Disney shelved this movie years ago.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this movie really graphic? Schindler's List graphic?


It's not at all graphic. I'm thinking the most violent thing was Ballard fighting the bad guy. The most graphic sexual thing was the bad guy carrying a little girl over to his bed and laying her down. Most everything was just implied and relayed to us through the characters' eyes and expression.
Anonymous
https://www.rawstory.com/actor-pushes-qanon-theory-of-infant-blood-drinking-while-promoting-film-screening-for-donald-trump/

“Actor promotes Trump's movie screening by pushing QAnon's bizarre infant blood-drinking theory“

For anyone who thinks this isn’t political
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.rawstory.com/actor-pushes-qanon-theory-of-infant-blood-drinking-while-promoting-film-screening-for-donald-trump/

“Actor promotes Trump's movie screening by pushing QAnon's bizarre infant blood-drinking theory“

For anyone who thinks this isn’t political


Also for anyone who thinks these folks aren't crazy.
Anonymous
Surprise, surprise! Conspiracy theorists have made a conspiracy theory about attendance of a movie. And now they're labeling people who don't watch the movie pedophiles and child traffickers. Comet pizza all over again.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s so laughable that with their manipulative “pay it forward” scheme, they claim to have been “more popular than Indiana Jones.” And dim bulbs just lap it up.


Sound of Freedom beat Indiana Jones during the Fourth of July weekend ticket sales.

https://wsau.com/2023/07/10/sound-of-freedom-becomes-top-grossing-u-s-movie-beats-indiana-jones/

Sorry that reality is so difficult for you.
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A fool and his money are soon parted.

Except for the protagonist on this film. He is laughing all the way to the bank.

A before anyone accuses me of not caring, I worked in LE for 12 years and did a few of these cases. You all a sheeps. If not, tell me what you have actually done for this issue other than “raising awareness” by trolling Internet forums.


Agreed. This was a money making scheme. No one quits HSI mid-career because they feel so impassioned about a cause. When’s the last time an DEA agent quit anfter 10 years to become a drug addictikn counselor? Also, I know most of the retired HSI guys that now work for him. They’re “B list” investigators who have similar personas.


Ballard is so impassioned about the cause because the grandson of a man was kidnapped from the church daycare and trafficked. Ballard promised the man that he would find the boy. When he did track him down with a group of other trafficked kids he told his superiors they needed to plan the rescue. He was turned down due to expense, which was about $200K per rescue. Ballard realized that the problem with cost was government overhead. He raised some money (Glenn Beck’s charitable arm was a huge donator) and they were able to launch a rescue for only 15K. They used retired military paratroopers to aid. Ballard and a couple other men would pose as men who wanted to buy the children and when the money exchanged hands, the paratroopers would rain down with long guns and rescue the kids. He’s still not found that little boy, sadly, and never really forgave the government for not allowing him to go in when he had - that was why he was so impassioned to start O.U.R. And before the lot of you naysayers start on religion and race, the little boy he’s still looking for is black.

I have made monthly donations to this organization from its inception.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a movie about the prevalence of sex slavery and trafficking - why the h*^ll are u condemning this effort to tell their story in the hopes that countless children will be rescued and perverts thrown in jail??


Nothing, and I mean nothing, about seeing this move is going to have any impact whatsoever on real child trafficking. So the real question is: instead of spending $15 on a ticket, and probably about $20 on snacks, why aren’t you making a donation to a legitimate organization that deals with survivors?


Ballard has had a real impact on child trafficking. He’s rescued countless children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Surprise, surprise! Conspiracy theorists have made a conspiracy theory about attendance of a movie. And now they're labeling people who don't watch the movie pedophiles and child traffickers. Comet pizza all over again.


This. Freaking whack jobs.
Anonymous
Really weird blitz happening above to try to get us to forget the people behind this movie are peddling a modern-day blood libel. Once they whip up the populace with horrific allegations that may or may not have a kernel of truth, they can manipulate their devotees to do their bidding for whatever their real objective is. After all, no one is actually in favor of child trafficking!

Go spam a parenting group in another city, conspiracy theorists! In DC, we were here when you inspired your mentally ill minion to shoot up our freaking pizza parlor, and we were all terrorized when you mobilized your army of minions to riot at the Capitol and menace us across the city. You've got some really stable guys behind you. (That's a reference to the fabulous banner someone hung on the overpass in Dupont in 2017 that said "Welcome to the Swamp, Steve Bannon: a real stable guy."

Signed, moderate independent who used to be Republican, and an actual DC mom
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People on this thread are lying.

Humans in sears at these theaters have been basically zero sold out shows have no humans waking in FACT

So some org is buying sears and inflating numbers .

The mob does this to launder monies…,

Anyone who did see this and thinks it’s factual is a complete and utter joke.

Do your homework this is not hard the propaganda machine is working over time.

Donnie has been informed with other Republicans indictments are coming. Trumps last tweet confirms. Maga morons

Not to mention Flynn not Mikey not a happy camper right now. .


DP. And let's be clear, it's not like child sex trafficking has been suddenly discovered by the woke wingnut Right crew after being ignored by everybody else for years.

THORN has been going strong for over a decade, including developing revolutionary software with real and widespread effectiveness, shared with LEOs already doing the work. The founders have advocated for these children before Congress.

RAINN has been working with child and adult victims for almost 3 decades, and they run the hotline for the DoD. They are the largest nonprofit of this kind in the US, and as a nonprofit (and like THORN), they have been transparent about finances.

There isn't a hole to be filled here, unless you want to promote something else for other reasons. Fair enough, but let's not pretend about what you are doing.


Are you saying that no one needs to be making any films, movies, presentations, etc about this topic? It's all been done?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People on this thread are lying.

Humans in sears at these theaters have been basically zero sold out shows have no humans waking in FACT

So some org is buying sears and inflating numbers .

The mob does this to launder monies…,

Anyone who did see this and thinks it’s factual is a complete and utter joke.

Do your homework this is not hard the propaganda machine is working over time.

Donnie has been informed with other Republicans indictments are coming. Trumps last tweet confirms. Maga morons

Not to mention Flynn not Mikey not a happy camper right now. .


DP. And let's be clear, it's not like child sex trafficking has been suddenly discovered by the woke wingnut Right crew after being ignored by everybody else for years.

THORN has been going strong for over a decade, including developing revolutionary software with real and widespread effectiveness, shared with LEOs already doing the work. The founders have advocated for these children before Congress.

RAINN has been working with child and adult victims for almost 3 decades, and they run the hotline for the DoD. They are the largest nonprofit of this kind in the US, and as a nonprofit (and like THORN), they have been transparent about finances.

There isn't a hole to be filled here, unless you want to promote something else for other reasons. Fair enough, but let's not pretend about what you are doing.


Are you saying that no one needs to be making any films, movies, presentations, etc about this topic? It's all been done?


Nope. I'm asking how involved you were with the well-established and most effective fighters against child sex trafficking BEFORE this movie -- or is it a woke fad thing for you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People on this thread are lying.

Humans in sears at these theaters have been basically zero sold out shows have no humans waking in FACT

So some org is buying sears and inflating numbers .

The mob does this to launder monies…,

Anyone who did see this and thinks it’s factual is a complete and utter joke.

Do your homework this is not hard the propaganda machine is working over time.

Donnie has been informed with other Republicans indictments are coming. Trumps last tweet confirms. Maga morons

Not to mention Flynn not Mikey not a happy camper right now. .


DP. And let's be clear, it's not like child sex trafficking has been suddenly discovered by the woke wingnut Right crew after being ignored by everybody else for years.

THORN has been going strong for over a decade, including developing revolutionary software with real and widespread effectiveness, shared with LEOs already doing the work. The founders have advocated for these children before Congress.

RAINN has been working with child and adult victims for almost 3 decades, and they run the hotline for the DoD. They are the largest nonprofit of this kind in the US, and as a nonprofit (and like THORN), they have been transparent about finances.

There isn't a hole to be filled here, unless you want to promote something else for other reasons. Fair enough, but let's not pretend about what you are doing.


Are you saying that no one needs to be making any films, movies, presentations, etc about this topic? It's all been done?


Nope. I'm asking how involved you were with the well-established and most effective fighters against child sex trafficking BEFORE this movie -- or is it a woke fad thing for you?

PP here. I work in a large school system that has provided in-service programs for its teachers, staff, and administrators over the past 25 years, so we are relatively informed and proactive. I think it's a topic that needs to be put out front and center. Too many people are uninformed and/or apathetic about these kinds of abuses and their victims.
Anonymous
From Wikipedia, re the film's star, Jim Caviezel:

Political views

Caviezel is publicly against abortion.[30] In 2006, Caviezel was featured with actress Patricia Heaton and Missouri athletes Kurt Warner and Mike Sweeney in an advertisement opposing Missouri Constitutional Amendment 2, which allowed any form of embryonic stem cell research and therapy in Missouri that is otherwise legal under federal law. He began the advertisement by saying, "Le-bar nash be-neshak" (Aramaic for "You betray the Son of Man with a kiss"), a reference to Judas's betrayal of Jesus Christ and a phrase used in the Gospel According to St. Luke.[50][51] (In the advertisement, the line did not include a translation into English.) Caviezel closed the commercial with the line, "You know now. Don't do it. Vote no on 2." The advertisement was a response to a commercial featuring Michael J. Fox, who favored embryonic stem cell research.[52]

In 2021, Caviezel endorsed some elements of the QAnon theory[53][54] during a remote appearance at the "Health and Freedom Conference"[55][56] at Rhema Bible Training College in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma.[57] The appearance was to promote the film Sound of Freedom, centering on anti-human trafficking activist Timothy Ballard. Ballard's activism has been alleged to correspond to the rise of QAnon, though he denies any connection to the movement.[58] Caviezel mentioned that Ballard was supposed to be appearing at the conference but was "saving victims of trafficking" who were victims of "adrenochroming", a practice whose existence is suggested by QAnon adherents.[59] Caviezel suggested he had seen evidence of children being subjected to the practice.[60] The event included appearances by other QAnon promoters, such as L. Lin Wood[61] and Michael Flynn.[62] In October of the same year, Caviezel spoke in Las Vegas at the "For God & Country: Patriot Double Down" conference, where he mentioned the need to fight child sex trafficking, Satan and liberal values. He claimed that "the storm is upon us", echoing the belief in a final battle against evil and repeated the battle cry of William Wallace in Braveheart, also urging the audience to "[send] Lucifer and his henchmen straight back to hell where they belong".[63]

I am against pedos and trafficing kids and have the utmost respect for anyone who works to stop that from happening. Thank you to them for all of their work and service and the toll that must take on their mental health, holy moly.

I also agree with what one of the previous posters wrote about QAnon basically fomenting wild opinions in normal people to get us to the crazytown rebellion of January 6 and not accepting the results of a normal election. Fingers crossed the US never goes through anything like that again, but it's clear that we really are relying alot on luck and finger crossing at this point, and not the checks and balances and lack of crazy people with lots of money that used to prevent that sort of thing from happening.

I'm not planning to see the film in theaters, but I might watch it at home when it comes on a service somewhere.
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