Feeling cut off from God

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

What do you mean by all religions are manmade?

? what's the alternative explanation. I'd really be interested in hearing that. Ever read the various creation myths that most civilization have? What's the difference between them and Genesis for example?

Oh good lord. DP here. This seems to be your go-to arguing point on every.single.thread about religion. Have you ever noticed it never works?
1. It's way OT for this thread and wasn't OP's question.
1. Get some new talking points for the next thread where questioning religion itself might be remotely relevant.

Religion is man made. Do you have an alternative explanation. I'd love to hear it.

^^^ Atheist 24/2/365 troll alert.

Any answer? No, you only cast aspersions. Try to contribute, it would be interesting, and perhaps even instructive, to learn from you.

You're completely OT with your constant drumbeat here of "religion is manmade." I'm happy to engage with you on answers to OP's question, which is how to find her way back to religion.

apologies, then. Which post or posts along those lines have you made?

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

Do you believe in the Christian God?

Does the pp who believes that God/god made the sun, nature, believe in a God or gods? What God/gods do you believe in?

If you believe a God made the sun and nature, you would acknowledge that God and know their name.

So who do you believe created everything? Who do you worship as God?

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

pp, you refuse to answer if you believe in a God or gods, but keep explaining that a God or gods made everything.

Is that correct?

Why are you ducking this question?

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

Completely off topic, why can’t you create another thread for your question?

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

What do you mean by all religions are manmade?

? what's the alternative explanation. I'd really be interested in hearing that. Ever read the various creation myths that most civilization have? What's the difference between them and Genesis for example?

Oh good lord. DP here. This seems to be your go-to arguing point on every.single.thread about religion. Have you ever noticed it never works?
1. It's way OT for this thread and wasn't OP's question.
1. Get some new talking points for the next thread where questioning religion itself might be remotely relevant.

Religion is man made. Do you have an alternative explanation. I'd love to hear it.

^^^ Atheist 24/2/365 troll alert.

Nope Catholic

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

Completely off topic, why can’t you create another thread for your question?

No. I'm just following along with the conversation. See the post at 12:44 which said Morality is God made. I was commenting on that; Really, that's not so unusual for an internet forum is it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

Completely off topic, why can’t you create another thread for your question?

No. I'm just following along with the conversation. See the post at 12:44 which said Morality is God made. I was commenting on that; Really, that's not so unusual for an internet forum is it?

DP. So you're perpetuating pp's OT rant, pat yourself on the back? Yes, we all know there are two atheists here who create their own little echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

Completely off topic, why can’t you create another thread for your question?

No. I'm just following along with the conversation. See the post at 12:44 which said Morality is God made. I was commenting on that; Really, that's not so unusual for an internet forum is it?

DP. So you're perpetuating pp's OT rant, pat yourself on the back? Yes, we all know there are two atheists here who create their own little echo chamber.

apparently an atheist is now claiming “god made everything” but humans made religion. It’s extremely odd.

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

What do you mean by all religions are manmade?

? what's the alternative explanation. I'd really be interested in hearing that. Ever read the various creation myths that most civilization have? What's the difference between them and Genesis for example?

Oh good lord. DP here. This seems to be your go-to arguing point on every.single.thread about religion. Have you ever noticed it never works?
1. It's way OT for this thread and wasn't OP's question.
1. Get some new talking points for the next thread where questioning religion itself might be remotely relevant.

Religion is man made. Do you have an alternative explanation. I'd love to hear it.

^^^ Atheist 24/2/365 troll alert.

Any answer? No, you only cast aspersions. Try to contribute, it would be interesting, and perhaps even instructive, to learn from you.

You're completely OT with your constant drumbeat here of "religion is manmade." I'm happy to engage with you on answers to OP's question, which is how to find her way back to religion.

Which is checking out Buddhism.

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I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

pp, you refuse to answer if you believe in a God or gods, but keep explaining that a God or gods made everything.

Is that correct?

Why are you ducking this question?

I said I believe in 1 god.

Allah and God are the same entity.

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I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

No I can’t define it, it’s ethereal and can’t be defined by man.

All attempts fall short aka religion.

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.

So what’s your evidence that all religion is man made?

let me explain it like you’re in kindergarten.

The sun is made by god, a car is made by man.

Nature is made by god’s , books are made by man.

Morality is made by god, rules and regulations (religion) are made by man.

I think that is six claims in total. Please support your claims with evidence. Some of those claims have obvious evidence supporting them, and some have none as far as I can tell.

At the risk of being chewed out for being off-topic, Morality is man made. What are morals anyway? Can you define it?

No I can’t define it, it’s ethereal and can’t be defined by man.

All attempts fall short aka religion.

I’d add, if you are truly connected to god you can quiet your brain and listen to god speak to you through your soul… and you know morality.

But greed, vanity, religion get in your head and quiet gods voice. So it’s hard.

Buddhism and meditation can help you get to your soul.

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Anonymous wrote:During the pandemic, with no church and so many daily challenges, my relationship with God lapsed. I’ve been trying to reignite it, but it’s just not happening. I’ve been praying on and off for a year but I feel no answers. I’m discouraged and starting to feel hopeless. I can’t find a church that feels right. I’m struggling to get back on track by myself and it’s not working.

How have you dealt with spiritual lapses? Do you have any advice for re-connecting with God?

Maybe a Christian psychotherapist could help you tackle this. Here's a list put out by Psychology today of DC area Christian therapists at the master's and PHD levels https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/dc/washington?category=christian