Feeling cut off from God

[Anonymous]

Allah is the Arabic word for God.

When a Christian speaks of God he is referring to Yahweh, the God of the Bible.

When a Muslim says, “Allah,” he is referring to the God of the Koran. The two are very different.

God’s only begotten Son is Jesus. Allah has no begotten son.
God made salvation available by sacrificing His Son and promises salvation by grace to those who believe. Allah sacrificed nothing, and only saves if sufficient works are done.
God has a payment for sins—Jesus Christ. Allah has no payment for sins.
God’s Christ paid for the sins of mankind. Allah paid for nothing, and all men pay for their own sins.
God’s salvation is through Christ’s work. Allah’s salvation is through people’s works.
God’s saving work is, “Come to Christ.” The major part of Moslem salvation is to believe Mohammed was the sum and seal of the prophets.
God’s book is very different from Allah’s book. They contradict each other, so they cannot both be true. For example, the Bible says Christ was resurrected from the dead. The Moslems reject that as a lie.
God says his Son is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Allah says Christ is “only a messenger” (Chap. 5, “The Food” sect. 10, par. 75).
God treats men and women equally. Allah does not.
God says marriages today (Christian) are to be monogamous. Allah allows more than one wife.
There is no marriage in God’s Paradise. Faithful men get many virgins in Allah’s.
God says it is not necessary to have special days. Allah does: for example, Ramadan, the Moslem holy month during which Moslems fast during the day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

+1

ridiculous people who claim to know more than everyone else, but really don’t know anything at all.

op has never replied to their original comment ✅

comments about God not existing ✅

comments about God and Allah being the same ✅

comment about God and “free will” from an atheist who doesn’t even believe in God ✅

Troll post 101 is here for the weekend.

Yep.

You'd think OP would post again if they weren't an atheist troll. Or maybe they are busy, or afraid to post given how this thread has shifted, with multiple Christians accusing them of being a troll.

Op has not posted again.

op has not explained why they attended a church that closed during the pandemic but now can’t find a church to attend.

Op? Where are you?

I take the OP's post at face value. They said they became disconnected during the pandemic and now have struggled to reignite their faith - and haven't found a church that does that for them. What's so difficult to believe about this? Seems about right to me.

because if op posted asking for help and opinions and advice- why would they disapear?

This may come as a shock, but people sometimes start a thread seeking suggestions, and then go off to their actual life, sometimes for hours or longer, before coming back to check!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hilarious, the atheists and anti-theists speak for op and pretend they know what’s best for the op. A sad charade.

+1. Surprised "and many choose no religion at all and that's why religion is declining!" atheist hasn't chimed in yet, seems like they insert themselves on every single thread.

While ignoring the huge increase in Christianity worldwide.

And ignoring the trend of atheism and agnosticism declining worldwide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

+1

ridiculous people who claim to know more than everyone else, but really don’t know anything at all.

op has never replied to their original comment ✅

comments about God not existing ✅

comments about God and Allah being the same ✅

comment about God and “free will” from an atheist who doesn’t even believe in God ✅

Troll post 101 is here for the weekend.

Yep.

You'd think OP would post again if they weren't an atheist troll. Or maybe they are busy, or afraid to post given how this thread has shifted, with multiple Christians accusing them of being a troll.

Op has not posted again.

op has not explained why they attended a church that closed during the pandemic but now can’t find a church to attend.

Op? Where are you?

I take the OP's post at face value. They said they became disconnected during the pandemic and now have struggled to reignite their faith - and haven't found a church that does that for them. What's so difficult to believe about this? Seems about right to me.

because if op posted asking for help and opinions and advice- why would they disapear?

This may come as a shock, but people sometimes start a thread seeking suggestions, and then go off to their actual life, sometimes for hours or longer, before coming back to check!

op will be back soon to answer questions about themselves and their issues! We just have to wait several days until they figure out how to answer so they seem real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

+1

ridiculous people who claim to know more than everyone else, but really don’t know anything at all.

op has never replied to their original comment ✅

comments about God not existing ✅

comments about God and Allah being the same ✅

comment about God and “free will” from an atheist who doesn’t even believe in God ✅

Troll post 101 is here for the weekend.

Yep.

You'd think OP would post again if they weren't an atheist troll. Or maybe they are busy, or afraid to post given how this thread has shifted, with multiple Christians accusing them of being a troll.

Op has not posted again.

op has not explained why they attended a church that closed during the pandemic but now can’t find a church to attend.

Op? Where are you?

I take the OP's post at face value. They said they became disconnected during the pandemic and now have struggled to reignite their faith - and haven't found a church that does that for them. What's so difficult to believe about this? Seems about right to me.

because if op posted asking for help and opinions and advice- why would they disapear?

This may come as a shock, but people sometimes start a thread seeking suggestions, and then go off to their actual life, sometimes for hours or longer, before coming back to check!

+1. This happens all the time. No need to ascribe ulterior or trollish motives. Kudos to those who tried to actually help the poster with some sincere suggestions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hilarious, the atheists and anti-theists speak for op and pretend they know what’s best for the op. A sad charade.

+1. Surprised "and many choose no religion at all and that's why religion is declining!" atheist hasn't chimed in yet, seems like they insert themselves on every single thread.

While ignoring the huge increase in Christianity worldwide.

And ignoring the trend of atheism and agnosticism declining worldwide.

Really? Or just in developing countries?
-NP

[Anonymous]

So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

paths

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

+1

ridiculous people who claim to know more than everyone else, but really don’t know anything at all.

op has never replied to their original comment ✅

comments about God not existing ✅

comments about God and Allah being the same ✅

comment about God and “free will” from an atheist who doesn’t even believe in God ✅

Troll post 101 is here for the weekend.

Yep.

You'd think OP would post again if they weren't an atheist troll. Or maybe they are busy, or afraid to post given how this thread has shifted, with multiple Christians accusing them of being a troll.

Op has not posted again.

op has not explained why they attended a church that closed during the pandemic but now can’t find a church to attend.

Op? Where are you?

I take the OP's post at face value. They said they became disconnected during the pandemic and now have struggled to reignite their faith - and haven't found a church that does that for them. What's so difficult to believe about this? Seems about right to me.

because if op posted asking for help and opinions and advice- why would they disapear?

This may come as a shock, but people sometimes start a thread seeking suggestions, and then go off to their actual life, sometimes for hours or longer, before coming back to check!

+1. This happens all the time. No need to ascribe ulterior or trollish motives. Kudos to those who tried to actually help the poster with some sincere suggestions.

op posted and disappeared. Even if someone posted an answer to help them, they’d never see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

What do you mean by all religions are manmade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

No. It’s 1 god. I don’t believe in many gods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we're all in agreement then? The God of Abraham is not the same god as that of Christianity and Islam? Seems it started out that way, but then these pats diverged. And, yes, religion is man-made. I don't see how anyone can reasonably argue otherwise.

What do you mean by all religions are manmade?

? what's the alternative explanation. I'd really be interested in hearing that. Ever read the various creation myths that most civilization have? What's the difference between them and Genesis for example?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a troll post.

I wish the Muslim hadn't jumped on to proselytize because there's so much that can be said about how Jesus in the NT and the Quran are NOT the same people. It's hard to let the simple "we're the same it's just that you guys got it wrong" pass without comment.

For one thing, the Quran's Jesus endorses that book's general position against nonbelievers, Christians and Jews. Including violence, which is something the NT Jesus never endorses.

Quran (9:29): “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Quran (5:51): “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”

Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”

Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

I could quite a bunch of crazy stuff from the Bible as well.

Religions were created by man.

But you can't post violent stuff against nonbelievers from the gospels, in fact the best you're going to do is "turn the other cheek." Too bad you're so desperate to fight religion in general that you're unable to follow simple points.

But we could post Bible verse about acts of violence against women.

Again, not in the New Testament.

This thread immediately became a sh!t show. Reporting.

Only when someone said OP. Could not possibly be Buddhist.

There is no reason why OP could not go in that direction.

You cry “shit show” when the answer is anything other that exactly what you believe.

Attacking Christianity and Christians by obsessively posting fake scenarios in a religion forum shouldn’t be a personality, yet here you are.

It’s not an attack to tell Christians to look in to Buddhism, I know many nuns and priest who study Buddhism.

DP. Yes, Christians study Buddhism and some Buddhists (like Thich Nhat Hang) look into Christianity.

You're so dishonest. The issue is when some of you post about how all religion is man-made, fake, etc. As you know.

It’s not a claim, religion is created by man.

Name a religion not created by man.

How did you come to that conclusion?

All the books, rules, writing, teaching are made by man. Can you name one that was not.

It can be inspired by god. I also think art is inspired by god.