Utah elementary and middle schools ban the Bible for "vulgarity and violence"

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On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

+1.

It reminds me of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix when Professor Umbridge gave educational decree number 27, which banned reading the Quibbler; she also tried to confiscate all copies. Doing so guaranteed every student in the school read it by the end of the day.

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Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

Great. At least we don't have school administrators and librarians willing to help them access inappropriate material. I know that disappoints you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?

Precisely this. No books have been banned. They are placed only in age-appropriate settings. Huge difference.

So younger kids are banned from reading them?

Don't you worry, your kids will have all the lewd, pornographic books they can get their hands on once they reach high school. Maybe even middle school. Or, you know, feel free to buy them yourself and have a really wholesome story hour with your own kids. Knock yourself out.

LOL that you think the books being pulled from schools are "pornographic." I mean yes, the Bible does have some pretty sexualized stuff in it for sure.

Did you keep your kids from PG movies until they were 18?

If you think Gender Queer, Lawn Boy, This Book is Gay, etc. are the equivalent of PG, then we have nothing further to discuss.

What is wrong with This Book is Gay? Have you ever read it??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tampa-school-sex-book/

Educate yourself.

It sounds like a book about how sex works except it specifically talks about how gay sex works. So?

Feel free to buy this book for your own kid. Or get it from the public library for your own kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

Great. At least we don't have school administrators and librarians willing to help them access inappropriate material. I know that disappoints you.

No. The fact that you didn't realize this before you started banning books disappoints me.

It's common sense if you are a teacher, administrator or librarian. If a book is assigned to students, they typically don't want to read it. If you tell them it is banned, they immediately want to read it.

If educators were able to indoctrinate students like you like, test scores would be sky high and kids wouldn't have to be forced to read.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?

Precisely this. No books have been banned. They are placed only in age-appropriate settings. Huge difference.

So younger kids are banned from reading them?

Don't you worry, your kids will have all the lewd, pornographic books they can get their hands on once they reach high school. Maybe even middle school. Or, you know, feel free to buy them yourself and have a really wholesome story hour with your own kids. Knock yourself out.

LOL that you think the books being pulled from schools are "pornographic." I mean yes, the Bible does have some pretty sexualized stuff in it for sure.

Did you keep your kids from PG movies until they were 18?

If you think Gender Queer, Lawn Boy, This Book is Gay, etc. are the equivalent of PG, then we have nothing further to discuss.

What is wrong with This Book is Gay? Have you ever read it??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tampa-school-sex-book/

Educate yourself.

It sounds like a book about how sex works except it specifically talks about how gay sex works. So?

Feel free to buy this book for your own kid. Or get it from the public library for your own kid.

You don't get it. If libraries have books about how heterosexual sex happens - One was given out in my fifth grade sex ed class 30 years ago which talked about that hetero sex, masturbation, and more - why can't a book talk about how gay sex works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

Great. At least we don't have school administrators and librarians willing to help them access inappropriate material. I know that disappoints you.

No. The fact that you didn't realize this before you started banning books disappoints me.

It's common sense if you are a teacher, administrator or librarian. If a book is assigned to students, they typically don't want to read it. If you tell them it is banned, they immediately want to read it.

If educators were able to indoctrinate students like you like, test scores would be sky high and kids wouldn't have to be forced to read.

No one has to ‘tell them it’s banned’ unless there’s an agenda. Just don’t have the books available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?

Precisely this. No books have been banned. They are placed only in age-appropriate settings. Huge difference.

So younger kids are banned from reading them?

Don't you worry, your kids will have all the lewd, pornographic books they can get their hands on once they reach high school. Maybe even middle school. Or, you know, feel free to buy them yourself and have a really wholesome story hour with your own kids. Knock yourself out.

LOL that you think the books being pulled from schools are "pornographic." I mean yes, the Bible does have some pretty sexualized stuff in it for sure.

Did you keep your kids from PG movies until they were 18?

If you think Gender Queer, Lawn Boy, This Book is Gay, etc. are the equivalent of PG, then we have nothing further to discuss.

What is wrong with This Book is Gay? Have you ever read it??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tampa-school-sex-book/

Educate yourself.

It sounds like a book about how sex works except it specifically talks about how gay sex works. So?

Feel free to buy this book for your own kid. Or get it from the public library for your own kid.

You don't get it. If libraries have books about how heterosexual sex happens - One was given out in my fifth grade sex ed class 30 years ago which talked about that hetero sex, masturbation, and more - why can't a book talk about how gay sex works?

Because heterosexual sex can result in pregnancy and it makes sense to educate kids (though I think it should be done via a class and nurse). Gay sex does not.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?

Precisely this. No books have been banned. They are placed only in age-appropriate settings. Huge difference.

So younger kids are banned from reading them?

Don't you worry, your kids will have all the lewd, pornographic books they can get their hands on once they reach high school. Maybe even middle school. Or, you know, feel free to buy them yourself and have a really wholesome story hour with your own kids. Knock yourself out.

LOL that you think the books being pulled from schools are "pornographic." I mean yes, the Bible does have some pretty sexualized stuff in it for sure.

Did you keep your kids from PG movies until they were 18?

If you think Gender Queer, Lawn Boy, This Book is Gay, etc. are the equivalent of PG, then we have nothing further to discuss.

What is wrong with This Book is Gay? Have you ever read it??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tampa-school-sex-book/

Educate yourself.

It sounds like a book about how sex works except it specifically talks about how gay sex works. So?

Feel free to buy this book for your own kid. Or get it from the public library for your own kid.

You don't get it. If libraries have books about how heterosexual sex happens - One was given out in my fifth grade sex ed class 30 years ago which talked about that hetero sex, masturbation, and more - why can't a book talk about how gay sex works?

I wouldn’t think a book that tells heterosexual kids about Tinder is appropriate in a school setting, in the same way that I don’t think a book that tells them about Grindr is appropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

Great. At least we don't have school administrators and librarians willing to help them access inappropriate material. I know that disappoints you.

No. The fact that you didn't realize this before you started banning books disappoints me.

It's common sense if you are a teacher, administrator or librarian. If a book is assigned to students, they typically don't want to read it. If you tell them it is banned, they immediately want to read it.

If educators were able to indoctrinate students like you like, test scores would be sky high and kids wouldn't have to be forced to read.

No one has to ‘tell them it’s banned’ unless there’s an agenda. Just don’t have the books available.

So now, in addition to telling everyone what you think is appropriate for libraries, you expect to silence parents from talking to their own children about the dangers of book banning? Because that has some sort of agenda? I talked to my kids from when they were 2 years old about how lucky they are to read whatever they wanted. And that back in the day, people couldn’t read. And when people did learn to read, they were banned from reading certain things. It is something we have talked about all their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

Great. At least we don't have school administrators and librarians willing to help them access inappropriate material. I know that disappoints you.

Inappropriate as defined by you. That is problem here. You have taken it on yourself to determine what all children should access - not only your own. If you don’t want your kids reading certain things, instill that in your kids. I want my kids to read anything they want to. I don’t control their reading material because I am pretty sure they’ll only access things they can handle. I do limit their movies because they don’t seem to be able to self regulate. Know your own kids - it’s not that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?

Precisely this. No books have been banned. They are placed only in age-appropriate settings. Huge difference.

So younger kids are banned from reading them?

Don't you worry, your kids will have all the lewd, pornographic books they can get their hands on once they reach high school. Maybe even middle school. Or, you know, feel free to buy them yourself and have a really wholesome story hour with your own kids. Knock yourself out.

LOL that you think the books being pulled from schools are "pornographic." I mean yes, the Bible does have some pretty sexualized stuff in it for sure.

Did you keep your kids from PG movies until they were 18?

If you think Gender Queer, Lawn Boy, This Book is Gay, etc. are the equivalent of PG, then we have nothing further to discuss.

What is wrong with This Book is Gay? Have you ever read it??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tampa-school-sex-book/

Educate yourself.

It sounds like a book about how sex works except it specifically talks about how gay sex works. So?

Feel free to buy this book for your own kid. Or get it from the public library for your own kid.

You don't get it. If libraries have books about how heterosexual sex happens - One was given out in my fifth grade sex ed class 30 years ago which talked about that hetero sex, masturbation, and more - why can't a book talk about how gay sex works?

Because gay sex is icky & makes Baby Jesus cry. Married, procreative missionary sex with the lights out is all part of God’s plan so long as no one enjoys it too much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the plus side, the idiots banning everything have just given all the kids a handy reading list of everything their parents don't want them to read.

You know they are going to be reading all this, as soon as they can get their hands on a copy, when they probably would have never read it in the school library.

+1.

It reminds me of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix when Professor Umbridge gave educational decree number 27, which banned reading the Quibbler; she also tried to confiscate all copies. Doing so guaranteed every student in the school read it by the end of the day.

speaking of which, religious Christian zealots wanted Harry Potter banned, and some libraries/schools did actually ban it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harry-potter-books-banned-nashville-catholic-school-bans-series-read-by-a-human-being-risk-conjuring-evil-spirits/

[Anonymous]

"She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."

This is not appropriate for children. Shame on anyone pushing a book with this kind of filth.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?

Precisely this. No books have been banned. They are placed only in age-appropriate settings. Huge difference.

So younger kids are banned from reading them?

Don't you worry, your kids will have all the lewd, pornographic books they can get their hands on once they reach high school. Maybe even middle school. Or, you know, feel free to buy them yourself and have a really wholesome story hour with your own kids. Knock yourself out.

LOL that you think the books being pulled from schools are "pornographic." I mean yes, the Bible does have some pretty sexualized stuff in it for sure.

Did you keep your kids from PG movies until they were 18?

If you think Gender Queer, Lawn Boy, This Book is Gay, etc. are the equivalent of PG, then we have nothing further to discuss.

What is wrong with This Book is Gay? Have you ever read it??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tampa-school-sex-book/

Educate yourself.

It sounds like a book about how sex works except it specifically talks about how gay sex works. So?

Feel free to buy this book for your own kid. Or get it from the public library for your own kid.

You don't get it. If libraries have books about how heterosexual sex happens - One was given out in my fifth grade sex ed class 30 years ago which talked about that hetero sex, masturbation, and more - why can't a book talk about how gay sex works?

Because heterosexual sex can result in pregnancy and it makes sense to educate kids (though I think it should be done via a class and nurse). Gay sex does not.

I understand that’s what you think. But why should our policy be based on what you think alone?