Utah elementary and middle schools ban the Bible for "vulgarity and violence"

[Anonymous]

I love this.

Give the right fascists some of their own medicine.

Of course, they will be hypocritical and make an exception.

But still, perhaps it will cause ONE of them will think for a change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

I think your last sentence is true of many conservatives and liberals. You think liberals would be okay if a school started teaching creationism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Right. Because you think today’s kids who are practically born with a smartphone in their hands can’t figure out how to access porn or Grindr on their own? What century are you living in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

Yes, as if there is an epidemic of kids reading too many books instead of watching internet porn and misogynist YouTube influencers. Kids finding inappropriate books is many times less of a problem and less dangerous than all the inappropriate content pushed at them everyday by social media algorithms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Right. Because you think today’s kids who are practically born with a smartphone in their hands can’t figure out how to access porn or Grindr on their own? What century are you living in?

There’s a difference between what they find on their own and what is provided to them by people in positions of authority like their school. Those books would not be tolerated on my desk in my workplace. Why are they in our schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

Yes, as if there is an epidemic of kids reading too many books instead of watching internet porn and misogynist YouTube influencers. Kids finding inappropriate books is many times less of a problem and less dangerous than all the inappropriate content pushed at them everyday by social media algorithms.

I’m sure many parents would be thrilled if that issue was tackled as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

I think your last sentence is true of many conservatives and liberals. You think liberals would be okay if a school started teaching creationism?

I am a liberal. I would have zero issues with a book of creationism in my kid’s library. So long as it was no being presented as science, and it was shelved with the myths or world philosophies or whatever, I would wholeheartedly support this. I do not support nook banning.

That is entirely different than what is being taught in schools and what is on the curriculum. I would have a problem with creationism or religion being taught. They can certainly be discussed in the appropriate classes, though.

“Control of kids” for us comes from many many hours spent talking about world view. I believe my kids know what we think. They should be free to come to terms with what they believe and part of that is access to books and media. I do not wish to control that even if my non Christian kid picks up a Bible and becomes some sort of charismatic Christian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love this.

Give the right fascists some of their own medicine.

Of course, they will be hypocritical and make an exception.

But still, perhaps it will cause ONE of them will think for a change.

I hope so too, but I doubt it. It's obvious these evangelicals don't bother to actually read the Bible. Or many of the other books they want to ban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you people are crazy. I am an atheist and I strongly believe that the Bible should be in school libraries available to any child interested. Kid might want to read about a story he had heard about in Sunday school. He might be interested in hearing about a different religion from the one he has at home and is uncomfortable asking his parents about it. He may just have heard a lot about it and want to check it out. He might want to check it out so he gets brownie points from his devout grandmother. Who cares? It is a major book in our society.

As a kid growing up in religious school, we had books about mythology and fables. They were written in an age appropriate way. No reason why you can't tell Bible stories the same way without the genocide, torture, rape, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you people are crazy. I am an atheist and I strongly believe that the Bible should be in school libraries available to any child interested. Kid might want to read about a story he had heard about in Sunday school. He might be interested in hearing about a different religion from the one he has at home and is uncomfortable asking his parents about it. He may just have heard a lot about it and want to check it out. He might want to check it out so he gets brownie points from his devout grandmother. Who cares? It is a major book in our society.

As a kid growing up in religious school, we had books about mythology and fables. They were written in an age appropriate way. No reason why you can't tell Bible stories the same way without the genocide, torture, rape, etc.

And this is the difference between you and me. I am totally happy to let my kid read a kid version of Bible stories, the actual Bible or neither as a 9 or 10 year old. Why does the fact that you have a more restrictive parenting view on the value of the Bible for 10 year olds trump my desire to let my kid access these books when he is ready?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

I think your last sentence is true of many conservatives and liberals. You think liberals would be okay if a school started teaching creationism?

+1000
Liberals have their own "controlling criteria."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Right. Because you think today’s kids who are practically born with a smartphone in their hands can’t figure out how to access porn or Grindr on their own? What century are you living in?

There’s a difference between what they find on their own and what is provided to them by people in positions of authority like their school. Those books would not be tolerated on my desk in my workplace. Why are they in our schools?

Exactly. I was impressed that in Florida, no book is allowed in school unless it's also allowed to be read aloud at a school board meeting. I'm remembering how the parents who read excerpts from "Gender Queer" et al were immediately shut down in school board meetings because of the inappropriate, lewd content. But the same SBs said it was perfectly ok to have these books in school libraries. There seems to be zero common sense among administrators and sadly, among many parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this keeps books with images of sex acts or instructions on how to get on Grindr out of our schools, I’m perfectly fine with it.

Frankly, if my HS age son is reading lewd books rather than perusing the internet, I would call that a win. Honestly in today’s society kids have basically open access to the internet. Or peer shared material. Just be honest - conservative parents want to control the information their kids have access to/learn.

I think your last sentence is true of many conservatives and liberals. You think liberals would be okay if a school started teaching creationism?

+1000
Liberals have their own "controlling criteria."

+10000

[Anonymous]

Why do people here keep referring to “book bans” when what has happened is that a book is age-limited. Is this some political styling to score points against your adversaries or do you sincerely not know what the word “ban” means?