At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We are coming up on 24 hours and they haven’t released info on the shooter despite having searched his home and interviewing his parents.

Why?

There is also news emerging that a threat was discovered at the local high school on FRI about shooting up the school this MON. The school circulated an email to all parents this weekend. Presumably unrelated, but very disturbing nonetheless.


I’ll just leave this here

The agents were reportedly speaking with family inside the home, according to KHOU. A translator was reportedly requested by the family. 
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?


He 100% had a huge tattoo covering his hand. It's very clearly visible on photos circulating the web of him after police killed him. If it's a gang tattoo, get tougher on gangs. If it's a prison tattoo (there's online chatter speculating it's a particular prison tattoo), then we can consider how someone who was in prison got a gun. There's also news reports this guy was always seen wearing "security clothes." But if he wasn't a security guard, was he mentally ill? Red flag laws? See something say something? Hopefully the FBI will release more details, but I'm not optimistic when considering the Vegas and Nashville Christian school shooter investigations. Will see. Must study history so it doesn't repeat itself IMO


+1 We all need to recognize it's NOT the easy access to assault weapons.

https://grabagun.com/firearms/rifles/ar-15-rifles-ar-10-ak47.html



This is not a zero sum game.

For example, one can be opposed to gangs and AR-15s.

Another example - one can be opposed to mentally ill persons purchasing any firearm, and opposed to sale of AR-15s.
Anonymous
Seems to be happening more in red states these days. Wonder why?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
He 100% had a huge tattoo covering his hand. It's very clearly visible on photos circulating the web of him after police killed him. If it's a gang tattoo, get tougher on gangs. If it's a prison tattoo (there's online chatter speculating it's a particular prison tattoo), then we can consider how someone who was in prison got a gun. There's also news reports this guy was always seen wearing "security clothes." But if he wasn't a security guard, was he mentally ill? Red flag laws? See something say something? Hopefully the FBI will release more details, but I'm not optimistic when considering the Vegas and Nashville Christian school shooter investigations. Will see. Must study history so it doesn't repeat itself IMO




I. Don't. Care.
I do NOT care who he was. I do NOT care what he was wearing. I DO NOT CARE if he was in a gang, if he was in prison at some time, or even if he was mentally ill. Ultimately I also will not care when I learn his name, his race, his age, his address, and his personal history.
What I do care about is the innocent lives destroyed by a man with a gun. What I care about is the ease with which mass shootings occur in this country. I want ACTION. I am tired of going around and around about the Second Amendment - a "well regulated militia" is called for, so where's the "well regulated" part?! That's what I care about it, that's what I'll vote for, that's what I'll use my right of free speech for.


Right, you don't care if any action is taken unless it's banning of all guns or certain guns. Ok. Well, that approach seems to have failed so far and a lot of people are dead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.


other countries have acid attacks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are coming up on 24 hours and they haven’t released info on the shooter despite having searched his home and interviewing his parents.

Why?

There is also news emerging that a threat was discovered at the local high school on FRI about shooting up the school this MON. The school circulated an email to all parents this weekend. Presumably unrelated, but very disturbing nonetheless.


I’ll just leave this here

The agents were reportedly speaking with family inside the home, according to KHOU. A translator was reportedly requested by the family. 


And? So? Stop with the innuendo and just say what you want to see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?


He 100% had a huge tattoo covering his hand. It's very clearly visible on photos circulating the web of him after police killed him. If it's a gang tattoo, get tougher on gangs. If it's a prison tattoo (there's online chatter speculating it's a particular prison tattoo), then we can consider how someone who was in prison got a gun. There's also news reports this guy was always seen wearing "security clothes." But if he wasn't a security guard, was he mentally ill? Red flag laws? See something say something? Hopefully the FBI will release more details, but I'm not optimistic when considering the Vegas and Nashville Christian school shooter investigations. Will see. Must study history so it doesn't repeat itself IMO


+1 We all need to recognize it's NOT the easy access to assault weapons.

https://grabagun.com/firearms/rifles/ar-15-rifles-ar-10-ak47.html



This is not a zero sum game.

For example, one can be opposed to gangs and AR-15s.

Another example - one can be opposed to mentally ill persons purchasing any firearm, and opposed to sale of AR-15s.


+1 Because angry, soon-to-be mass shooters walk into the gun store with a sign around their neck reading "I am a mentally ill persons seeking to purchasing a firearm." All you need to do is read it!

2A forever! AR-15s for everyone!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.


other countries have acid attacks.


Idiot in the house!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.


other countries have acid attacks.


Idiot in the house!


Apparently something you didn't want to hear. Just close your eyes, cover your ears and yell LA LA LA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.


other countries have acid attacks.


Idiot in the house!


Apparently something you didn't want to hear. Just close your eyes, cover your ears and yell LA LA LA


Come back to us when acid attacks have killed or maimed even a quarter as many people as guns have.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.


other countries have acid attacks.


Idiot in the house!


Apparently something you didn't want to hear. Just close your eyes, cover your ears and yell LA LA LA


Come back to us when acid attacks have killed or maimed even a quarter as many people as guns have.


Who pulled the trigger?
Anonymous
Right, you don't care if any action is taken unless it's banning of all guns or certain guns. Ok. Well, that approach seems to have failed so far and a lot of people are dead.


You're obviously living in another reality. You know what? That's scary. It's the reason we've got so many mass shootings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.


other countries have acid attacks.


Idiot in the house!


Apparently something you didn't want to hear. Just close your eyes, cover your ears and yell LA LA LA


Come back to us when acid attacks have killed or maimed even a quarter as many people as guns have.


Well, seven people in Brownsville were just killed by an SUV running them over.
Anonymous
Brownsville, TX
Anonymous

Unarmed Chinese, Russians by the hundreds of millions by communist leftists that hate getting shot.

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