At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today

[Anonymous]

I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of regular Republican and Republican-leaning voters are in favor of some gun control measures. Not as many as Democrats but there’s less daylight there than you might think. They, too, have kids in school, they go to parties and events, they worry about their safety just as much. The politicians and the conservative judiciary are way out of step with the voters on the gun control issue and it’s becoming a huge problem.

No there is no daylight between the republican base and leadership on guns. That is the media spin. Republicans, conservatives and specially libertarians love the gun culture, gun violence and want more guns on the street.

Why do you think people vote republicans?

Nobody loves senseless violence. Stop being inflammatory. Just because someone doesn’t agree with your preferred policy response to a problem doesn’t mean that someone loves the outcome of the problem. Anti-prohibitionists don’t love alcohol-related deaths. Pro-choice people don’t love the need for millions of abortions. Anti-immigration enforcement advocates don’t love what is happening at the border or in our cities. Criminal Justice reform advocates don’t love the spike in crime. It’s a disagreement between two sides.

I graduated from high school in 1999. That was the year of Columbine. While it wasn’t the first school shooting, in part because of the video footage, it shocked us the most until Sandy Hook came along. Guns are a major problem, but they aren’t the only problem here. Clearly we have a bankrupt culture producing alienated individuals. Nobody has done anything to address that culture over nearly 25 years since Columbine. This tribalism and demonization of political opponents has led to the stalemate in the issue. I’m not finding the right words here, but Megyn Kelly had some tweets on the topic last night.

Other countries have the same mental health issues. Other countries enacted gun control following shootings. Republicans like Kelly don't give AF about other possible solutions like mental health because they vote to decrease funding to those programs. And by the way I am not even advocating to remove guns from lawful owners but it floors me that there is so little regulation in this country. It's insanity. Lawful, sane gun owners have no problems with background checks, not allowing DV perpetrators to have guns, and having a system to be able to trace guns. Being against these measures absolutely means having blood on your hands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

I am sorry but this seems like a personal issue. Not saying it is not widespread but my DH has friends and yes it takes work and effort to keep it going.

[Anonymous]

It’s due to single motherhood & feminization of men by female teachers.

[Anonymous]

We are coming up on 24 hours and they haven’t released info on the shooter despite having searched his home and interviewing his parents.

Why?

There is also news emerging that a threat was discovered at the local high school on FRI about shooting up the school this MON. The school circulated an email to all parents this weekend. Presumably unrelated, but very disturbing nonetheless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of regular Republican and Republican-leaning voters are in favor of some gun control measures. Not as many as Democrats but there’s less daylight there than you might think. They, too, have kids in school, they go to parties and events, they worry about their safety just as much. The politicians and the conservative judiciary are way out of step with the voters on the gun control issue and it’s becoming a huge problem.

No there is no daylight between the republican base and leadership on guns. That is the media spin. Republicans, conservatives and specially libertarians love the gun culture, gun violence and want more guns on the street.

Why do you think people vote republicans?

Nobody loves senseless violence. Stop being inflammatory. Just because someone doesn’t agree with your preferred policy response to a problem doesn’t mean that someone loves the outcome of the problem. Anti-prohibitionists don’t love alcohol-related deaths. Pro-choice people don’t love the need for millions of abortions. Anti-immigration enforcement advocates don’t love what is happening at the border or in our cities. Criminal Justice reform advocates don’t love the spike in crime. It’s a disagreement between two sides.

I graduated from high school in 1999. That was the year of Columbine. While it wasn’t the first school shooting, in part because of the video footage, it shocked us the most until Sandy Hook came along. Guns are a major problem, but they aren’t the only problem here. Clearly we have a bankrupt culture producing alienated individuals. Nobody has done anything to address that culture over nearly 25 years since Columbine. This tribalism and demonization of political opponents has led to the stalemate in the issue. I’m not finding the right words here, but Megyn Kelly had some tweets on the topic last night.

Lol oh let’s not make the republicans and conservatives full throated support of gunning down children inflammatory. Someone might just call you in your bullsh#t. It’s people like you who make sure Columbine was followed Sandy Hook with Alex Jones.

You are totally wrong and purposefully so. The only one with a “bankrupt” culture is you. There are no two side. The demonization is on one side. You are parroting right wing talking point. Go back to your Steve Bannon and Alex Jones podcast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s due to single motherhood & feminization of men by female teachers.

The incel contingent has chimed in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s due to single motherhood & feminization of men by female teachers.

Way to blame the problems all these men have all on women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.

[Anonymous]

That doggone "mental health." If only we could do something about that damn mental health.

But let's get one thing straight: it's not, Not, NOT the easy access to assault weapons.

A little girl got her face shot off. Thoughts-n-Prayers.


Also, for fun: Look up "buy AR 15" on Google. Some amazing Spring sales!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?

He 100% had a huge tattoo covering his hand. It's very clearly visible on photos circulating the web of him after police killed him. If it's a gang tattoo, get tougher on gangs. If it's a prison tattoo (there's online chatter speculating it's a particular prison tattoo), then we can consider how someone who was in prison got a gun. There's also news reports this guy was always seen wearing "security clothes." But if he wasn't a security guard, was he mentally ill? Red flag laws? See something say something? Hopefully the FBI will release more details, but I'm not optimistic when considering the Vegas and Nashville Christian school shooter investigations. Will see. Must study history so it doesn't repeat itself IMO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That doggone "mental health." If only we could do something about that damn mental health.

But let's get one thing straight: it's not, Not, NOT the easy access to assault weapons.

A little girl got her face shot off. Thoughts-n-Prayers.


Also, for fun: Look up "buy AR 15" on Google. Some amazing Spring sales!

Um, mental health is likely a gigantic factor in why any human being would mass murder strangers in cold blood and die suicide by cop.

And many people don't have access to therapists and psychiatrists covered by insurance. Lack of mental health access is a huge problem in the U.S. I know people in that part of the insurance industry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That doggone "mental health." If only we could do something about that damn mental health.

But let's get one thing straight: it's not, Not, NOT the easy access to assault weapons.

A little girl got her face shot off. Thoughts-n-Prayers.


Also, for fun: Look up "buy AR 15" on Google. Some amazing Spring sales!

Um, mental health is likely a gigantic factor in why any human being would mass murder strangers in cold blood and die suicide by cop.

And many people don't have access to therapists and psychiatrists covered by insurance. Lack of mental health access is a huge problem in the U.S. I know people in that part of the insurance industry.

+100 The ease of access to AR-15 is not the problem!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think alienation of men by our society as well as their choices is what's leading to this.
I see it in my own husband....Not the violins but the seclusion. When we first got married he met with few friends a few times a month. I love that about him that he would just hang out, go to a game or whatever. But as we've been together for 20 years, I don't think I could name one friend that he actually talks to more than once a year. Typically just wishing them. Happy birthday via text. Does not play any sports. He works from home and I do all of the shopping. I mean he'll go out with us as a family but independently he has no personality or life outside of his computer where he does his work. Just minimal contact with any of his colleagues after COVID.

The world is full of men like your DH. The difference is in other countries, they don’t all have easy access to such deadly weapons.

EXACTLY. How anyone fails to see this extremely simple point is beyond me

[Anonymous]

He 100% had a huge tattoo covering his hand. It's very clearly visible on photos circulating the web of him after police killed him. If it's a gang tattoo, get tougher on gangs. If it's a prison tattoo (there's online chatter speculating it's a particular prison tattoo), then we can consider how someone who was in prison got a gun. There's also news reports this guy was always seen wearing "security clothes." But if he wasn't a security guard, was he mentally ill? Red flag laws? See something say something? Hopefully the FBI will release more details, but I'm not optimistic when considering the Vegas and Nashville Christian school shooter investigations. Will see. Must study history so it doesn't repeat itself IMO

I. Don't. Care.
I do NOT care who he was. I do NOT care what he was wearing. I DO NOT CARE if he was in a gang, if he was in prison at some time, or even if he was mentally ill. Ultimately I also will not care when I learn his name, his race, his age, his address, and his personal history.
What I do care about is the innocent lives destroyed by a man with a gun. What I care about is the ease with which mass shootings occur in this country. I want ACTION. I am tired of going around and around about the Second Amendment - a "well regulated militia" is called for, so where's the "well regulated" part?! That's what I care about it, that's what I'll vote for, that's what I'll use my right of free speech for.