Algebra 1 at 6 grade?

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Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!


Stop making stuff up. My kid never took aim.


Then your kid is very special. The magnet coordinator and the previous one have been very clear that no one does algebra in 6th grade if they haven’t done AIM in 5th and even then they strongly discourages it.
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Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!

Yes, it's completely untrue that they have Algebra 2 at TPMS. Hasn't been offered there in years.


Look, I don’t know where you get that from but I have an 8th grader CURRENTLY at TPMS and I can tell you that Algebra 2 is offered at TPMS and the kids are not bused to Blair. It is taught by Ms M a beloved long time TPMS teacher who also teaches magnet geometry.
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Anonymous wrote:Loiederman and Eastern are magnets, but not Math/Science magnets.


They are not real magnets. Just called that.


Surely there is something in the Internet more fun than writing weirdly insulting lies?

Here's a pleasant video about magnets: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2RamSFoo0jw&pp=ygUMbWFnbmV0IHNvbmcg

Imagine it's DCUM admin Jeff Steele singing the chorus!
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Anonymous wrote:Any test/pre-screening/evaluation by MCPS? Or just by individual middle school? Thx...


Most MCPS schools don't do this, but a few in the wealthier areas will accelerate kids with 250+ map-m.


My kid got a 5th grade winter MAP of 270. Should I push for this? (I’m not inclined to)


When mine was in 5th, they also scored in the 270s. Our home school doesn't offer this as an option. Sure, they could've easily handled Algebra, but it gave them more time to absorb the material. By the end of the 6th, they were scoring in the 290s, so they seemed to be doing fine. They're headed to Blair SMCS and will probably be in the same class with kids a year ahead of them. In the end, it made no difference.


It's done to keep the kids at the home school vs. leaving for private or other situations.


Just so it’s clear the above is NOT the reason people try to prevent this. The real reasons are that AlgII and above require more abstract thing and more application of skills. Allowing kids to mature helps with this. Also, Maryland requires 4yrs of math in HS. Students taking Alg1 in 6th will most likely have to go to the HS in 8th for Alg2. A class that typically has a range of 9th-11th graders. Some of ya’ll nor your kids are prepared for what goes on in HS. Further, the student will then be taking Calculus in 10th grade. So the question becomes what are they going to take Jr/Sr year especially if they aren’t planning to major in something that requires really advance math.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!


Stop making stuff up. My kid never took aim.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vCgGZ_cgO88

At 24:46 Sarah Manchester starts explaining that some students take Alg in 6th, and she teaches Alg 2 in 8th this year. She makes a point to not state the exact criteria. Then she gushes over how great the Algebra 2 class is, which I imagine makes a lot of people salty, especially since the class is probably small size with more attention to each student.

Near the end (~58minutes?) in the Q&A she emphasizes that once they get to middle school students are not allowed to skip any (more) courses, regardless of ability or how much outside enrichment they do.
Anonymous
Mom and teacher here: best advice I was ever given was to not push my kids too far ahead in math. Here’s the problem: they have to take 4 years of math in high school regardless of which classes they’re in. This means that kids who soared ahead in middle school end up taking awful classes like AP trig in high school. And they end up hating math. Let your smart kid coast a little. Especially because some of these kids struggle in some or the writing heavy classes.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!

Yes, it's completely untrue that they have Algebra 2 at TPMS. Hasn't been offered there in years.


Look, I don’t know where you get that from but I have an 8th grader CURRENTLY at TPMS and I can tell you that Algebra 2 is offered at TPMS and the kids are not bused to Blair. It is taught by Ms M a beloved long time TPMS teacher who also teaches magnet geometry.


So do I and they take it at Blair because it's not offered at TPMS in years
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Mom and teacher here: best advice I was ever given was to not push my kids too far ahead in math. Here’s the problem: they have to take 4 years of math in high school regardless of which classes they’re in. This means that kids who soared ahead in middle school end up taking awful classes like AP trig in high school. And they end up hating math. Let your smart kid coast a little. Especially because some of these kids struggle in some or the writing heavy classes.


You don't realize you're talking to parents who have older kids who thrived in advanced math classes and are here because they also have younger kids, and/or parents who are mathematicians or use a lot of math in their careers, Mrs Mom and Teacher. These nomikers don't do anything to make you more credible. Do you not understand that some kids are BORED STIFF in "regular" math classes? My child who took Algebra 1 in 6th grade said it was the only class where she learned a little bit of new stuff that year. She hated school because it was so dull. She can't wait to get on to more challenging material, and I have no doubt she's ready for it, with a mathematician parent.

Really, your comment just irritates me to no end. Your narrow little mind thinks every student is cut from the same cloth. It's supremently disappointing you bring that mindset to the classroom.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!


Stop making stuff up. My kid never took aim.


Then your kid is very special. The magnet coordinator and the previous one have been very clear that no one does algebra in 6th grade if they haven’t done AIM in 5th and even then they strongly discourages it.


Correct, one of the only accurate statements in this thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle

This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.

The 2023 version is,

North Potomac
Robert Frost


Ha!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Mom and teacher here: best advice I was ever given was to not push my kids too far ahead in math. Here’s the problem: they have to take 4 years of math in high school regardless of which classes they’re in. This means that kids who soared ahead in middle school end up taking awful classes like AP trig in high school. And they end up hating math. Let your smart kid coast a little. Especially because some of these kids struggle in some or the writing heavy classes.


This is bad info
AP Trig doesn't exist. AP Precalc is new next year, and it's for low-level students not advanced students who take honors Precalculus.
A student in the hyper advanced track at a non magnet school can take: for example:

9: Precalc
10: AP Calc BC
11: AP Stats
12: Multivariable calculus in school or dual enrollment at Montgomery College.

Even if they have to pad with a filler class at a bad school that won't offer a 4th advanced math class, they can coast through that filler class in *lhigh school so they can work more in classes that are tougher for them. These kids are smart enough to hate Maryland for its stupid laws and hate MCPS for not offering good classes, not hate math that they've enjoyed their whole life.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!

Yes, it's completely untrue that they have Algebra 2 at TPMS. Hasn't been offered there in years.


Look, I don’t know where you get that from but I have an 8th grader CURRENTLY at TPMS and I can tell you that Algebra 2 is offered at TPMS and the kids are not bused to Blair. It is taught by Ms M a beloved long time TPMS teacher who also teaches magnet geometry.


So do I and they take it at Blair because it's not offered at TPMS in years


Here is video of a teacher saying she teaches Alg 2 at TPMS this year and it's great:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vCgGZ_cgO88
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!

Yes, it's completely untrue that they have Algebra 2 at TPMS. Hasn't been offered there in years.


Look, I don’t know where you get that from but I have an 8th grader CURRENTLY at TPMS and I can tell you that Algebra 2 is offered at TPMS and the kids are not bused to Blair. It is taught by Ms M a beloved long time TPMS teacher who also teaches magnet geometry.


So do I and they take it at Blair because it's not offered at TPMS in years


I’m not sure why you are lying. Ms Manchester teaches it at Takoma Park right now. This is a fact which I know because she teaches my kid and is proved to you by the link from THIS YEAR that another poster shared. I assume you don’t even have a kid at TPMS.
Anonymous
These threads make me so angry. MCPS should either offer Algebra 1 to no one or should have a publicized, communicated and fair process for students at any/every school to qualify to take this path if it is believed that there are 6th graders for whom this path is appropriate. Like, they all need to take a placement test. Or they all need X score on the MAP. This is not a hard concept, and parents get upset because they don’t have a good placement process County-wide for any 6th graders as it relates to math. So it all feels shady and unfair.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here, you can see what schools have it if you scroll down to the math spreadsheet and look at what schools offer Algebra 2, but that is not fully accurate as some schools bus the kids to the local high school.

https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum.html



Per that doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PHEd8FGE1Y2bSdatnyu1lvj8zikffYtG/htmlview
, Alg 2 in the catalog at 17 of 40 middle schools (2 magnets):

Silver Spring
A. Mario Loiederman
Eastern
Silver Spring International
White Oak

Potomac
Cabin John
Herbert Hoover

Bethesda
Earle B. Wood
North Bethesda
Thomas W. Pyle

Kensington
Newport Mill

Rockville
Francis Scott Key
Redland
Robert Frost

Gaithersburg
Forest Oak

Germantown
Kingsview

Magnet:
Roberto W Clemente Middle
Takoma Park Middle


This must be from before C2.0 since they haven't had Algebra 2 at TPMS in like a decade.


That is completely untrue! They have algebra 2 right now at TPMS.

What they won’t do is put kids into algebra 1 in 6th grade based on scores or achievements. They will only do it if they already took AIM in fifth. That small group of kids then ends up taking algebra 2 in 8th. Just like they are doing RIGHT NOW!

Yes, it's completely untrue that they have Algebra 2 at TPMS. Hasn't been offered there in years.


Look, I don’t know where you get that from but I have an 8th grader CURRENTLY at TPMS and I can tell you that Algebra 2 is offered at TPMS and the kids are not bused to Blair. It is taught by Ms M a beloved long time TPMS teacher who also teaches magnet geometry.


So do I and they take it at Blair because it's not offered at TPMS in years


Here is video of a teacher saying she teaches Alg 2 at TPMS this year and it's great:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vCgGZ_cgO88


Always good to see the liars called out. I guess we won’t hear from PP again, nor an apology for spreading pointless misinformation.
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