Florida expands "Don't say gay" law to k-12

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are just obsessed with private parts- it’s disgusting and obscene. Change my mind.

I can’t. DH and I were discussing the R obsession with regulating sex in every way possible the other night. Like, who cares if trans women use the same bathroom I do? And we came to the conclusion that Cons just think about sex more than we do. I’m 48 and cannot recall ever seeing a trans woman in the restroom. And if 1-2% of the population is trans, that means I am regularly crossing paths with them in the restroom. After all, Cons tell you the women’s restroom has been taken over by men in dresses. I just don’t notice/ care.

So, I guess cons try to peep into stalls in a restroom? Go into a stall and pay attention to what the people in the stalls on each side are doing? Can’t relax until they are sure there are no masculine sounds or smells? Stare at other people in line and ponder their genitalia? Cause this is an EMERGENCY folks! The fate of our nation rests on whether the person in the next stall dangles.

I guess con see two men with a toddler and you don’t picture a game of hide and seek, you picture the guys having sex? A kid can’t write a college practice essay about their 2 moms for AP Lang, because all the teacher and other students will think about is what your moms do in bed? And, of course they should not have kids, because all the kids will be able to think about is what the moms do in bed.

It’s like they assume everyone thinks about all sex all the time (like they apparently do). So, they legislate mandatory repression of their out of control sexual obsession. Because going to the bathroom has become this sexually fraught event because there could be penises anywhere! Everywhere! Maybe right in the next stall! Does it sound like penis pee-ing? Meanwhile, the rest of us are like: why doesn’t the Kennedy Center have larger women’s restrooms? The lights are going to give the five m8nute warning any second, hurry up folks.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised Cons have a righ rate of sexual deviancy. In their world, everyone is hyperaware of genitalia and sexuality. They cant allow the straw that will break the camels back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They can be free and brave by doing they jobs, you know, TEACHING

Let’s see some reading and math proficiency scores rise!

As long as none of the novels have gay characters. Or character making jokes abouT gayness. No: no Ancient Greek in translation and no Shakespeare. To Fo with no David.

[Anonymous]

And the Bee nails it again:

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are just obsessed with private parts- it’s disgusting and obscene. Change my mind.

I can’t. DH and I were discussing the R obsession with regulating sex in every way possible the other night. Like, who cares if trans women use the same bathroom I do? And we came to the conclusion that Cons just think about sex more than we do. I’m 48 and cannot recall ever seeing a trans woman in the restroom. And if 1-2% of the population is trans, that means I am regularly crossing paths with them in the restroom. After all, Cons tell you the women’s restroom has been taken over by men in dresses. I just don’t notice/ care.

So, I guess cons try to peep into stalls in a restroom? Go into a stall and pay attention to what the people in the stalls on each side are doing? Can’t relax until they are sure there are no masculine sounds or smells? Stare at other people in line and ponder their genitalia? Cause this is an EMERGENCY folks! The fate of our nation rests on whether the person in the next stall dangles.

I guess con see two men with a toddler and you don’t picture a game of hide and seek, you picture the guys having sex? A kid can’t write a college practice essay about their 2 moms for AP Lang, because all the teacher and other students will think about is what your moms do in bed? And, of course they should not have kids, because all the kids will be able to think about is what the moms do in bed.

It’s like they assume everyone thinks about all sex all the time (like they apparently do). So, they legislate mandatory repression of their out of control sexual obsession. Because going to the bathroom has become this sexually fraught event because there could be penises anywhere! Everywhere! Maybe right in the next stall! Does it sound like penis pee-ing? Meanwhile, the rest of us are like: why doesn’t the Kennedy Center have larger women’s restrooms? The lights are going to give the five m8nute warning any second, hurry up folks.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised Cons have a righ rate of sexual deviancy. In their world, everyone is hyperaware of genitalia and sexuality. They cant allow the straw that will break the camels back.

It's called "projection" ...they are projecting their own obsessions onto everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are just obsessed with private parts- it’s disgusting and obscene. Change my mind.

I can’t. DH and I were discussing the R obsession with regulating sex in every way possible the other night. Like, who cares if trans women use the same bathroom I do? And we came to the conclusion that Cons just think about sex more than we do. I’m 48 and cannot recall ever seeing a trans woman in the restroom. And if 1-2% of the population is trans, that means I am regularly crossing paths with them in the restroom. After all, Cons tell you the women’s restroom has been taken over by men in dresses. I just don’t notice/ care.

So, I guess cons try to peep into stalls in a restroom? Go into a stall and pay attention to what the people in the stalls on each side are doing? Can’t relax until they are sure there are no masculine sounds or smells? Stare at other people in line and ponder their genitalia? Cause this is an EMERGENCY folks! The fate of our nation rests on whether the person in the next stall dangles.

I guess con see two men with a toddler and you don’t picture a game of hide and seek, you picture the guys having sex? A kid can’t write a college practice essay about their 2 moms for AP Lang, because all the teacher and other students will think about is what your moms do in bed? And, of course they should not have kids, because all the kids will be able to think about is what the moms do in bed.

It’s like they assume everyone thinks about all sex all the time (like they apparently do). So, they legislate mandatory repression of their out of control sexual obsession. Because going to the bathroom has become this sexually fraught event because there could be penises anywhere! Everywhere! Maybe right in the next stall! Does it sound like penis pee-ing? Meanwhile, the rest of us are like: why doesn’t the Kennedy Center have larger women’s restrooms? The lights are going to give the five m8nute warning any second, hurry up folks.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised Cons have a righ rate of sexual deviancy. In their world, everyone is hyperaware of genitalia and sexuality. They cant allow the straw that will break the camels back.

It's called "projection" ...they are projecting their own obsessions onto everyone else.

Almost right.

It's called proTection. Just one letter off.
Protecting our kids from the gender lobby and those who are pushing for kids to transition.
Protecting our kids from teachers who push gender crap in the classroom.
Protecting our kids from being exposed to totally inappropriate sexual content including drag shows.
Protecting our women from being forced to compete with biological men.

Look.... you folks are the ones pushing this bunch of nonsense. We are simply pushing back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are just obsessed with private parts- it’s disgusting and obscene. Change my mind.

I can’t. DH and I were discussing the R obsession with regulating sex in every way possible the other night. Like, who cares if trans women use the same bathroom I do? And we came to the conclusion that Cons just think about sex more than we do. I’m 48 and cannot recall ever seeing a trans woman in the restroom. And if 1-2% of the population is trans, that means I am regularly crossing paths with them in the restroom. After all, Cons tell you the women’s restroom has been taken over by men in dresses. I just don’t notice/ care.

So, I guess cons try to peep into stalls in a restroom? Go into a stall and pay attention to what the people in the stalls on each side are doing? Can’t relax until they are sure there are no masculine sounds or smells? Stare at other people in line and ponder their genitalia? Cause this is an EMERGENCY folks! The fate of our nation rests on whether the person in the next stall dangles.

I guess con see two men with a toddler and you don’t picture a game of hide and seek, you picture the guys having sex? A kid can’t write a college practice essay about their 2 moms for AP Lang, because all the teacher and other students will think about is what your moms do in bed? And, of course they should not have kids, because all the kids will be able to think about is what the moms do in bed.

It’s like they assume everyone thinks about all sex all the time (like they apparently do). So, they legislate mandatory repression of their out of control sexual obsession. Because going to the bathroom has become this sexually fraught event because there could be penises anywhere! Everywhere! Maybe right in the next stall! Does it sound like penis pee-ing? Meanwhile, the rest of us are like: why doesn’t the Kennedy Center have larger women’s restrooms? The lights are going to give the five m8nute warning any second, hurry up folks.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised Cons have a righ rate of sexual deviancy. In their world, everyone is hyperaware of genitalia and sexuality. They cant allow the straw that will break the camels back.

It's called "projection" ...they are projecting their own obsessions onto everyone else.

Almost right.

It's called proTection. Just one letter off.
Protecting our kids from the gender lobby and those who are pushing for kids to transition.
Protecting our kids from teachers who push gender crap in the classroom.
Protecting our kids from being exposed to totally inappropriate sexual content including drag shows.
Protecting our women from being forced to compete with biological men.

Look.... you folks are the ones pushing this bunch of nonsense. We are simply pushing back.

It’s just so embarrassing to see that people actually believe this crap.
Gender lobby?! 🤣

No one is “pushing gender crap in the classroom.”

I can’t think of anything easier to avoid than a drag show.

Sports are a different issue in my opinion, not fact, just my opinion. I think it’s too complicated and nuanced to have a black or white response. But we suck as a country, so reasonable discussion is impossible. Because there are people who think there’s a gender lobby, that there’s gender crap in the classrooms and that drag shows are a foregone conclusion in everyone’s life and utterly unavoidable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are just obsessed with private parts- it’s disgusting and obscene. Change my mind.

I can’t. DH and I were discussing the R obsession with regulating sex in every way possible the other night. Like, who cares if trans women use the same bathroom I do? And we came to the conclusion that Cons just think about sex more than we do. I’m 48 and cannot recall ever seeing a trans woman in the restroom. And if 1-2% of the population is trans, that means I am regularly crossing paths with them in the restroom. After all, Cons tell you the women’s restroom has been taken over by men in dresses. I just don’t notice/ care.

So, I guess cons try to peep into stalls in a restroom? Go into a stall and pay attention to what the people in the stalls on each side are doing? Can’t relax until they are sure there are no masculine sounds or smells? Stare at other people in line and ponder their genitalia? Cause this is an EMERGENCY folks! The fate of our nation rests on whether the person in the next stall dangles.

I guess con see two men with a toddler and you don’t picture a game of hide and seek, you picture the guys having sex? A kid can’t write a college practice essay about their 2 moms for AP Lang, because all the teacher and other students will think about is what your moms do in bed? And, of course they should not have kids, because all the kids will be able to think about is what the moms do in bed.

It’s like they assume everyone thinks about all sex all the time (like they apparently do). So, they legislate mandatory repression of their out of control sexual obsession. Because going to the bathroom has become this sexually fraught event because there could be penises anywhere! Everywhere! Maybe right in the next stall! Does it sound like penis pee-ing? Meanwhile, the rest of us are like: why doesn’t the Kennedy Center have larger women’s restrooms? The lights are going to give the five m8nute warning any second, hurry up folks.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised Cons have a righ rate of sexual deviancy. In their world, everyone is hyperaware of genitalia and sexuality. They cant allow the straw that will break the camels back.

It's called "projection" ...they are projecting their own obsessions onto everyone else.

Almost right.

It's called proTection. Just one letter off.
Protecting our kids from the gender lobby and those who are pushing for kids to transition.
Protecting our kids from teachers who push gender crap in the classroom.
Protecting our kids from being exposed to totally inappropriate sexual content including drag shows.
Protecting our women from being forced to compete with biological men.

Look.... you folks are the ones pushing this bunch of nonsense. We are simply pushing back.

What is the example that is so egregious that required this legislation while kids are, in the meantime, actually dying of gunshot wounds as the number one cause of pediatric deaths?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3958769-florida-education-board-approves-desantiss-expansion-of-dont-say-gay-reports/.



For all those who defended this because "little kids don't need to know about homosexuality" -- we told you this was coming.

Is desantis a closeted gay man or something? He seems obsessively focused on this non issue.

It’s hardly a non-issue. Fully support this and hope other states follow suit. There is simply no reason to be discussing/ promoting things like this in schools.

Screw you. The reason to discuss this is because sexual orientation is not a “choice” but a biological attribute. Too many gay people like me have committed suicide before adulthood because society told them that being gay wasn’t an option.

I know a guy who committed suicide at 27 because he was convinced he was trans and had surgery before 18. He then realized at 21 he was actually a gay man but - surgery was done. Couldn’t live with himself.

....ok, I'm sorry that happened. But was this belief propelled by some specific class or teacher? No. Doubt that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the bill:

"unless such instruction is either expressly required by state academic standards as adopted in Rule 6A-1.09401, F.A.C., or is part of a reproductive health course or health lesson for which a student’s parent has the option to have his or her student not attend."

Makes perfect sense. Fully support

It is too vague and application will clearly have worse consequences for kids and teachers. Oppose.

What’s vague about it? Parents have opt out power. I have no problem with that

The parents have opt out of the sex ed class not the law which is under the interpretation of the school system.

Of course. If I don’t want my kids participating in this - which I don’t - they sit out that class. What’s wrong with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3958769-florida-education-board-approves-desantiss-expansion-of-dont-say-gay-reports/.



For all those who defended this because "little kids don't need to know about homosexuality" -- we told you this was coming.

Is desantis a closeted gay man or something? He seems obsessively focused on this non issue.

It’s hardly a non-issue. Fully support this and hope other states follow suit. There is simply no reason to be discussing/ promoting things like this in schools.

ITA. Our kids need to be educated in mathematics, history, science, technology, and language.
It is ridiculous to spend precious time discussing gender and sexuality.

And, note that discussion on gender and sexual identity are not banned in grades 4-12....

"would only allow discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in fourth through 12th grade if it is in line with state curriculum or in a health class a student can choose not to participate in." (from the link above)

And, one more thing.....

There is no such thing as "don't say gay" bill. In Florida, or anywhere else.

It's EXACTLY what it means. And you know it.

Teachers will be afraid, and stop any discussion. I can't wait until 10th graders start bringing it up and school. You know RW kids will tell their teachers, who will try to get the teachers fired.

Why should anything be off limits to talk about in school? are we not the home of the FREE and the BRAVE? I guess not.

Because some things- like sexual morals - should be taught at home, within the confines of individual family religious and other beliefs. I don’t want me kids taught about transgenderism. If you want your five year old “educated” on this subject, go right ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3958769-florida-education-board-approves-desantiss-expansion-of-dont-say-gay-reports/.



For all those who defended this because "little kids don't need to know about homosexuality" -- we told you this was coming.

Is desantis a closeted gay man or something? He seems obsessively focused on this non issue.

It’s hardly a non-issue. Fully support this and hope other states follow suit. There is simply no reason to be discussing/ promoting things like this in schools.

ITA. Our kids need to be educated in mathematics, history, science, technology, and language.
It is ridiculous to spend precious time discussing gender and sexuality.

And, note that discussion on gender and sexual identity are not banned in grades 4-12....

"would only allow discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in fourth through 12th grade if it is in line with state curriculum or in a health class a student can choose not to participate in." (from the link above)

And, one more thing.....

There is no such thing as "don't say gay" bill. In Florida, or anywhere else.

It's EXACTLY what it means. And you know it.

Teachers will be afraid, and stop any discussion. I can't wait until 10th graders start bringing it up and school. You know RW kids will tell their teachers, who will try to get the teachers fired.

Why should anything be off limits to talk about in school? are we not the home of the FREE and the BRAVE? I guess not.

Because some things- like sexual morals - should be taught at home, within the confines of individual family religious and other beliefs. I don’t want me kids taught about transgenderism. If you want your five year old “educated” on this subject, go right ahead.

The post is about 10th graders, not 5 year olds. That seems like a reasonable she to understand transgenderism at some level. What age would be appropriate in your opinion? I don't think I want my teenager to be an ignorant person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3958769-florida-education-board-approves-desantiss-expansion-of-dont-say-gay-reports/.



For all those who defended this because "little kids don't need to know about homosexuality" -- we told you this was coming.

Is desantis a closeted gay man or something? He seems obsessively focused on this non issue.

It’s hardly a non-issue. Fully support this and hope other states follow suit. There is simply no reason to be discussing/ promoting things like this in schools.

ITA. Our kids need to be educated in mathematics, history, science, technology, and language.
It is ridiculous to spend precious time discussing gender and sexuality.

And, note that discussion on gender and sexual identity are not banned in grades 4-12....

"would only allow discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in fourth through 12th grade if it is in line with state curriculum or in a health class a student can choose not to participate in." (from the link above)

And, one more thing.....

There is no such thing as "don't say gay" bill. In Florida, or anywhere else.

It's EXACTLY what it means. And you know it.

Teachers will be afraid, and stop any discussion. I can't wait until 10th graders start bringing it up and school. You know RW kids will tell their teachers, who will try to get the teachers fired.

Why should anything be off limits to talk about in school? are we not the home of the FREE and the BRAVE? I guess not.

Because some things- like sexual morals - should be taught at home, within the confines of individual family religious and other beliefs. I don’t want me kids taught about transgenderism. If you want your five year old “educated” on this subject, go right ahead.

The post is about 10th graders, not 5 year olds. That seems like a reasonable she to understand transgenderism at some level. What age would be appropriate in your opinion? I don't think I want my teenager to be an ignorant person.

Are you an ignorant person?
Did you learn about transgenderism in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are just obsessed with private parts- it’s disgusting and obscene. Change my mind.

I can’t. DH and I were discussing the R obsession with regulating sex in every way possible the other night. Like, who cares if trans women use the same bathroom I do? And we came to the conclusion that Cons just think about sex more than we do. I’m 48 and cannot recall ever seeing a trans woman in the restroom. And if 1-2% of the population is trans, that means I am regularly crossing paths with them in the restroom. After all, Cons tell you the women’s restroom has been taken over by men in dresses. I just don’t notice/ care.

So, I guess cons try to peep into stalls in a restroom? Go into a stall and pay attention to what the people in the stalls on each side are doing? Can’t relax until they are sure there are no masculine sounds or smells? Stare at other people in line and ponder their genitalia? Cause this is an EMERGENCY folks! The fate of our nation rests on whether the person in the next stall dangles.

I guess con see two men with a toddler and you don’t picture a game of hide and seek, you picture the guys having sex? A kid can’t write a college practice essay about their 2 moms for AP Lang, because all the teacher and other students will think about is what your moms do in bed? And, of course they should not have kids, because all the kids will be able to think about is what the moms do in bed.

It’s like they assume everyone thinks about all sex all the time (like they apparently do). So, they legislate mandatory repression of their out of control sexual obsession. Because going to the bathroom has become this sexually fraught event because there could be penises anywhere! Everywhere! Maybe right in the next stall! Does it sound like penis pee-ing? Meanwhile, the rest of us are like: why doesn’t the Kennedy Center have larger women’s restrooms? The lights are going to give the five m8nute warning any second, hurry up folks.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised Cons have a righ rate of sexual deviancy. In their world, everyone is hyperaware of genitalia and sexuality. They cant allow the straw that will break the camels back.

It's called "projection" ...they are projecting their own obsessions onto everyone else.

Almost right.

It's called proTection. Just one letter off.
Protecting our kids from the gender lobby and those who are pushing for kids to transition.
Protecting our kids from teachers who push gender crap in the classroom.
Protecting our kids from being exposed to totally inappropriate sexual content including drag shows.
Protecting our women from being forced to compete with biological men.

Look.... you folks are the ones pushing this bunch of nonsense. We are simply pushing back.

By banning mention of gays in school? So if someone asks a teacher why he's got a husband, the teacher can't say because sometimes men love each other? You think that's protecting the kid who asks?

P.S.The only people who think drag queen story hours are full of sexual content are those who find Mrs. Doubtfire erotic and sexy. That you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3958769-florida-education-board-approves-desantiss-expansion-of-dont-say-gay-reports/.



For all those who defended this because "little kids don't need to know about homosexuality" -- we told you this was coming.

Is desantis a closeted gay man or something? He seems obsessively focused on this non issue.

It’s hardly a non-issue. Fully support this and hope other states follow suit. There is simply no reason to be discussing/ promoting things like this in schools.

ITA. Our kids need to be educated in mathematics, history, science, technology, and language.
It is ridiculous to spend precious time discussing gender and sexuality.

And, note that discussion on gender and sexual identity are not banned in grades 4-12....

"would only allow discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in fourth through 12th grade if it is in line with state curriculum or in a health class a student can choose not to participate in." (from the link above)

And, one more thing.....

There is no such thing as "don't say gay" bill. In Florida, or anywhere else.

It's EXACTLY what it means. And you know it.

Teachers will be afraid, and stop any discussion. I can't wait until 10th graders start bringing it up and school. You know RW kids will tell their teachers, who will try to get the teachers fired.

Why should anything be off limits to talk about in school? are we not the home of the FREE and the BRAVE? I guess not.

Because some things- like sexual morals - should be taught at home, within the confines of individual family religious and other beliefs. I don’t want me kids taught about transgenderism. If you want your five year old “educated” on this subject, go right ahead.

The post is about 10th graders, not 5 year olds. That seems like a reasonable she to understand transgenderism at some level. What age would be appropriate in your opinion? I don't think I want my teenager to be an ignorant person.

Are you an ignorant person?
Did you learn about transgenderism in school?

Not in detail but we certainly knew how to address the transgender staff member and my kids knew about the transgender person in their high school class. How about you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3958769-florida-education-board-approves-desantiss-expansion-of-dont-say-gay-reports/.



For all those who defended this because "little kids don't need to know about homosexuality" -- we told you this was coming.

Is desantis a closeted gay man or something? He seems obsessively focused on this non issue.

It’s hardly a non-issue. Fully support this and hope other states follow suit. There is simply no reason to be discussing/ promoting things like this in schools.

ITA. Our kids need to be educated in mathematics, history, science, technology, and language.
It is ridiculous to spend precious time discussing gender and sexuality.

And, note that discussion on gender and sexual identity are not banned in grades 4-12....

"would only allow discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in fourth through 12th grade if it is in line with state curriculum or in a health class a student can choose not to participate in." (from the link above)

And, one more thing.....

There is no such thing as "don't say gay" bill. In Florida, or anywhere else.

It's EXACTLY what it means. And you know it.

Teachers will be afraid, and stop any discussion. I can't wait until 10th graders start bringing it up and school. You know RW kids will tell their teachers, who will try to get the teachers fired.

Why should anything be off limits to talk about in school? are we not the home of the FREE and the BRAVE? I guess not.

Because some things- like sexual morals - should be taught at home, within the confines of individual family religious and other beliefs. I don’t want me kids taught about transgenderism. If you want your five year old “educated” on this subject, go right ahead.

The post is about 10th graders, not 5 year olds. That seems like a reasonable she to understand transgenderism at some level. What age would be appropriate in your opinion? I don't think I want my teenager to be an ignorant person.

Are you an ignorant person?
Did you learn about transgenderism in school?

Do you care about the real top statistical dangers to children or the pretend ones made up by the GOP and Fox News so they can pretend it isn't guns?