Florida expands "Don't say gay" law to k-12

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Anonymous wrote:I thought FL was all for a parents rights.... but now they are taking the kids???

FL is becoming. Cult


They’re protecting kids from abuse. Gender affirming care is abuse.


it is? How so?
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Anonymous wrote:I thought FL was all for a parents rights.... but now they are taking the kids???

FL is becoming. Cult


They’re protecting kids from abuse. Gender affirming care is abuse.


it is? How so?


NP. Well, for starters it is "affirming" a delusion, which will lead to enormous psychological problems beyond the ones already being experienced. And that's before the so-called medical "care" starts, which leaves kids castrated and sterilized.

What part of that do you not understand?
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Is being gay and allusion?
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Shall we ban circumcision? And remove babies from parents who do this?
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Anonymous wrote:Shall we ban circumcision? And remove babies from parents who do this?


Such a strawman argument.

Is circumcision the affirmation of a delusion? Does it permanently sterilize the boy? Does it cause life-long medical complications and pharmaceutical dependency?

Has it been done for thousands of years or is it created and promoted by the medical profession as a money-maker? What is the surgical charge for an in-hospital circumcision versus the surgical charge for the attempted "creation" of a penis?

Just some questions you might want to ask yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have liked teachers promoting homosexuality to me in high school. I didn't even like it in college when the Shakespeare professor made a weak argument that Shakespeare was gay, and saying these are gay plays, at one point saying Greeks though the ideal relationship was between men and boys.

I don't know if Shakespeare was gay, but there is a stronger argument to be made for this if you go with Shakespeare didn't write the plays and it was instead the Earl of Oxford.


NO ONE IS "PROMOTING" HOMOSEXUALITY YOU IDIOT.


Do you prefer the word "celebrating?" It's basically the same thing.


First of all, no, those words don't mean the same thing.
Second of all, allowing people to be seen as human beings and worthy of dignity isn't celebrating or promoting anything. It's acknowledging that not everyone is the same, and you don't get to tell someone they are offensive at their core.
Third of all, think of this way. How much of this "celebrating gayness" would it take to turn you gay? How much? I'll wait...


I'm not an impressionable tween or teenager.


No one is changing their orientation based on pressure. Even when gay people were forced to marry they never changed their orientation, they just suppressed it.

What makes you feel so threatened by the idea that gay people exist and that they are gay from birth?


Pressure?? Are you kidding? It’s not “pressure.” It’s full celebration and reward of attention


Ok. What amount of full celebration and reward of attention would it take to turn you gay?


No amount would do it for me, but then I am a happily married, emotionally stable 46 YO with a lot of life experience, perspective and an understanding that life isn’t always going to go my way. I don’t crave attention or validation from others. I am secure in myself and have a loving support system around me.

I am not the target of the celebrating- insecure, immature, lonely kids with none of the above.


What does this have to do with the Florida law? Do you have concrete specific examples of teachers teaching that is putting kids in danger?


It has nothing to do with the Florida law that I can see. I was merely responding to the persistent poster who, for some odd reason, keeps asking what it would take to turn me gay. Why don’t you read back a few posts, join the conversation, and try to figure out what point this person is trying to make?


Because there is no way to turn anyone gay. Period. Full stop. Nothing could have turned you gay in middle or high school and nothing can turn you gay now. Same for kids today. You’re either gay or not. Nothing any teacher tells you, talks about, reads to you, etc would have ever turned you gay. You can’t be turned gay not because you’re “happily married” (spoiler alert- many gay people are happily married too), but because — wait for it — you’re not gay, never was, and never will be. Same for any kid in school today. They’re either gay or not. Period.


Oh, it’s the Full Stop gal again. Hi!
Of course what you’re saying is 100% incorrect. Just go to any high school or kids school for that matter, and talk to the girls. Virtually all of them will tell you that they know someone- or they themselves- are experimenting with their sexuality. This can mean anything at that age and of course the vast majority will turn out to be straight as adults. So there goes your theory


Oh hey, random pervert. Hi! Just how many random girls at any high school for that matter are you actually approaching to speak with them about their sexuality? You might want to check that.
But OK, I'll bite. Virtually all of them huh? That seems... slightly suspicious.
But you just said it yourself. According to your incredibly impressive but perverted scientific research of a creep, the vast majority will turn out straight. Which I assume is your desired goal.
So what's the f-ing problem. They experiment, they question, and -- much to your delight -- they wind up straight. No actual turning gay here to be seen.
What's the point of this legislation then?


I have kids in high school, which is how I know what I'm talking about. Do you? I would bet my bottom dollar that you do not, but you seem somehow obsessed with this issue anyway.

Kids this age should not be experimenting with gay sex, or with any sex for that matter. Why are people like you so intent on sexualizing children and teens that bills like the Florida law are necessary for their protection?

I am sincerely sorry for any trauma or pain in your life that causes you to think the way that you do. But trust me when I say that attempting to harm other people's children is not the answer to what you're dealing with.


Hand over your bottom dollar. Actually, never mind, I don't want it.
Yes, I have kids in high school and middle school. 8th grade and 10th grade to be exact. Even with that, I have yet to survey virtually all of them about their sexuality. Imagine that.
You think, if someone reads a book that has a gay character in it, they're going to run out and have gay sex? You really think that? You think a teacher talking about the civil rights movement that includes gay rights, they're going to think, "I gotta get me some of that STAT!" You think if they talk about an event in history that involves a gay person, they're going to look across the room and all of a sudden have feelings for someone of the same sex?
The only person sexualizing children in this scenario are people like you. Hidden trauma, indeed.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have liked teachers promoting homosexuality to me in high school. I didn't even like it in college when the Shakespeare professor made a weak argument that Shakespeare was gay, and saying these are gay plays, at one point saying Greeks though the ideal relationship was between men and boys.

I don't know if Shakespeare was gay, but there is a stronger argument to be made for this if you go with Shakespeare didn't write the plays and it was instead the Earl of Oxford.


NO ONE IS "PROMOTING" HOMOSEXUALITY YOU IDIOT.


Do you prefer the word "celebrating?" It's basically the same thing.


First of all, no, those words don't mean the same thing.
Second of all, allowing people to be seen as human beings and worthy of dignity isn't celebrating or promoting anything. It's acknowledging that not everyone is the same, and you don't get to tell someone they are offensive at their core.
Third of all, think of this way. How much of this "celebrating gayness" would it take to turn you gay? How much? I'll wait...


I'm not an impressionable tween or teenager.


No one is changing their orientation based on pressure. Even when gay people were forced to marry they never changed their orientation, they just suppressed it.

What makes you feel so threatened by the idea that gay people exist and that they are gay from birth?


Pressure?? Are you kidding? It’s not “pressure.” It’s full celebration and reward of attention


Ok. What amount of full celebration and reward of attention would it take to turn you gay?


No amount would do it for me, but then I am a happily married, emotionally stable 46 YO with a lot of life experience, perspective and an understanding that life isn’t always going to go my way. I don’t crave attention or validation from others. I am secure in myself and have a loving support system around me.

I am not the target of the celebrating- insecure, immature, lonely kids with none of the above.


What does this have to do with the Florida law? Do you have concrete specific examples of teachers teaching that is putting kids in danger?


It has nothing to do with the Florida law that I can see. I was merely responding to the persistent poster who, for some odd reason, keeps asking what it would take to turn me gay. Why don’t you read back a few posts, join the conversation, and try to figure out what point this person is trying to make?


Because there is no way to turn anyone gay. Period. Full stop. Nothing could have turned you gay in middle or high school and nothing can turn you gay now. Same for kids today. You’re either gay or not. Nothing any teacher tells you, talks about, reads to you, etc would have ever turned you gay. You can’t be turned gay not because you’re “happily married” (spoiler alert- many gay people are happily married too), but because — wait for it — you’re not gay, never was, and never will be. Same for any kid in school today. They’re either gay or not. Period.


Oh, it’s the Full Stop gal again. Hi!
Of course what you’re saying is 100% incorrect. Just go to any high school or kids school for that matter, and talk to the girls. Virtually all of them will tell you that they know someone- or they themselves- are experimenting with their sexuality. This can mean anything at that age and of course the vast majority will turn out to be straight as adults. So there goes your theory


Oh hey, random pervert. Hi! Just how many random girls at any high school for that matter are you actually approaching to speak with them about their sexuality? You might want to check that.
But OK, I'll bite. Virtually all of them huh? That seems... slightly suspicious.
But you just said it yourself. According to your incredibly impressive but perverted scientific research of a creep, the vast majority will turn out straight. Which I assume is your desired goal.
So what's the f-ing problem. They experiment, they question, and -- much to your delight -- they wind up straight. No actual turning gay here to be seen.
What's the point of this legislation then?


I have kids in high school, which is how I know what I'm talking about. Do you? I would bet my bottom dollar that you do not, but you seem somehow obsessed with this issue anyway.

Kids this age should not be experimenting with gay sex, or with any sex for that matter. Why are people like you so intent on sexualizing children and teens that bills like the Florida law are necessary for their protection?

I am sincerely sorry for any trauma or pain in your life that causes you to think the way that you do. But trust me when I say that attempting to harm other people's children is not the answer to what you're dealing with.


Hand over your bottom dollar. Actually, never mind, I don't want it.
Yes, I have kids in high school and middle school. 8th grade and 10th grade to be exact. Even with that, I have yet to survey virtually all of them about their sexuality. Imagine that.
You think, if someone reads a book that has a gay character in it, they're going to run out and have gay sex? You really think that? You think a teacher talking about the civil rights movement that includes gay rights, they're going to think, "I gotta get me some of that STAT!" You think if they talk about an event in history that involves a gay person, they're going to look across the room and all of a sudden have feelings for someone of the same sex?
The only person sexualizing children in this scenario are people like you. Hidden trauma, indeed.


That is not the teaching we’re talking about and you know it. You’re deflecting from the issue of the promotion of one form of sexuality over others. What do you think the entire pride month celebration in schools is all about?
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have liked teachers promoting homosexuality to me in high school. I didn't even like it in college when the Shakespeare professor made a weak argument that Shakespeare was gay, and saying these are gay plays, at one point saying Greeks though the ideal relationship was between men and boys.

I don't know if Shakespeare was gay, but there is a stronger argument to be made for this if you go with Shakespeare didn't write the plays and it was instead the Earl of Oxford.


NO ONE IS "PROMOTING" HOMOSEXUALITY YOU IDIOT.


Do you prefer the word "celebrating?" It's basically the same thing.


First of all, no, those words don't mean the same thing.
Second of all, allowing people to be seen as human beings and worthy of dignity isn't celebrating or promoting anything. It's acknowledging that not everyone is the same, and you don't get to tell someone they are offensive at their core.
Third of all, think of this way. How much of this "celebrating gayness" would it take to turn you gay? How much? I'll wait...


I'm not an impressionable tween or teenager.


No one is changing their orientation based on pressure. Even when gay people were forced to marry they never changed their orientation, they just suppressed it.

What makes you feel so threatened by the idea that gay people exist and that they are gay from birth?


Pressure?? Are you kidding? It’s not “pressure.” It’s full celebration and reward of attention


Ok. What amount of full celebration and reward of attention would it take to turn you gay?


No amount would do it for me, but then I am a happily married, emotionally stable 46 YO with a lot of life experience, perspective and an understanding that life isn’t always going to go my way. I don’t crave attention or validation from others. I am secure in myself and have a loving support system around me.

I am not the target of the celebrating- insecure, immature, lonely kids with none of the above.


What does this have to do with the Florida law? Do you have concrete specific examples of teachers teaching that is putting kids in danger?


It has nothing to do with the Florida law that I can see. I was merely responding to the persistent poster who, for some odd reason, keeps asking what it would take to turn me gay. Why don’t you read back a few posts, join the conversation, and try to figure out what point this person is trying to make?


Because there is no way to turn anyone gay. Period. Full stop. Nothing could have turned you gay in middle or high school and nothing can turn you gay now. Same for kids today. You’re either gay or not. Nothing any teacher tells you, talks about, reads to you, etc would have ever turned you gay. You can’t be turned gay not because you’re “happily married” (spoiler alert- many gay people are happily married too), but because — wait for it — you’re not gay, never was, and never will be. Same for any kid in school today. They’re either gay or not. Period.


Oh, it’s the Full Stop gal again. Hi!
Of course what you’re saying is 100% incorrect. Just go to any high school or kids school for that matter, and talk to the girls. Virtually all of them will tell you that they know someone- or they themselves- are experimenting with their sexuality. This can mean anything at that age and of course the vast majority will turn out to be straight as adults. So there goes your theory


Oh hey, random pervert. Hi! Just how many random girls at any high school for that matter are you actually approaching to speak with them about their sexuality? You might want to check that.
But OK, I'll bite. Virtually all of them huh? That seems... slightly suspicious.
But you just said it yourself. According to your incredibly impressive but perverted scientific research of a creep, the vast majority will turn out straight. Which I assume is your desired goal.
So what's the f-ing problem. They experiment, they question, and -- much to your delight -- they wind up straight. No actual turning gay here to be seen.
What's the point of this legislation then?


I have kids in high school, which is how I know what I'm talking about. Do you? I would bet my bottom dollar that you do not, but you seem somehow obsessed with this issue anyway.

Kids this age should not be experimenting with gay sex, or with any sex for that matter. Why are people like you so intent on sexualizing children and teens that bills like the Florida law are necessary for their protection?

I am sincerely sorry for any trauma or pain in your life that causes you to think the way that you do. But trust me when I say that attempting to harm other people's children is not the answer to what you're dealing with.


Hand over your bottom dollar. Actually, never mind, I don't want it.
Yes, I have kids in high school and middle school. 8th grade and 10th grade to be exact. Even with that, I have yet to survey virtually all of them about their sexuality. Imagine that.
You think, if someone reads a book that has a gay character in it, they're going to run out and have gay sex? You really think that? You think a teacher talking about the civil rights movement that includes gay rights, they're going to think, "I gotta get me some of that STAT!" You think if they talk about an event in history that involves a gay person, they're going to look across the room and all of a sudden have feelings for someone of the same sex?
The only person sexualizing children in this scenario are people like you. Hidden trauma, indeed.


That is not the teaching we’re talking about and you know it. You’re deflecting from the issue of the promotion of one form of sexuality over others. What do you think the entire pride month celebration in schools is all about?


OK, now I know you're either a troll or aren't in Florida or both. THAT'S EXACTLY THE TEACHING THAT'S AFFECTED. That's the entire purpose of "don't say gay" because if you come home and your child was exposed, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's wiping them out of existence. There is literally no promotion of one sexuality OVER another. I'll give you a small hint as to what pride month celebration is - it's so that we don't churn out more homophobic bigots like you. You are a walking billboard as to the extreme necessity of pride month. How dare you insinuate that they have nothing to be proud about you awful, awful person.
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It's funny to see people defending this when they really have no idea what the bill actually is. It is very very much is erasing the history of many people.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought FL was all for a parents rights.... but now they are taking the kids???

FL is becoming. Cult


They’re protecting kids from abuse. Gender affirming care is abuse.


I could say the same about allowing kids to go on church retreats


Trans rights activists like you are always trying to oppress people of faith. We want what is best for children. You want to leave kids to be groomed by abusive parents. You need to find God. Have a BLESSED day!


Has any organization groomed more kids than the catholic church?
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have liked teachers promoting homosexuality to me in high school. I didn't even like it in college when the Shakespeare professor made a weak argument that Shakespeare was gay, and saying these are gay plays, at one point saying Greeks though the ideal relationship was between men and boys.

I don't know if Shakespeare was gay, but there is a stronger argument to be made for this if you go with Shakespeare didn't write the plays and it was instead the Earl of Oxford.


NO ONE IS "PROMOTING" HOMOSEXUALITY YOU IDIOT.


Do you prefer the word "celebrating?" It's basically the same thing.


First of all, no, those words don't mean the same thing.
Second of all, allowing people to be seen as human beings and worthy of dignity isn't celebrating or promoting anything. It's acknowledging that not everyone is the same, and you don't get to tell someone they are offensive at their core.
Third of all, think of this way. How much of this "celebrating gayness" would it take to turn you gay? How much? I'll wait...


I'm not an impressionable tween or teenager.


No one is changing their orientation based on pressure. Even when gay people were forced to marry they never changed their orientation, they just suppressed it.

What makes you feel so threatened by the idea that gay people exist and that they are gay from birth?


Pressure?? Are you kidding? It’s not “pressure.” It’s full celebration and reward of attention


Ok. What amount of full celebration and reward of attention would it take to turn you gay?


No amount would do it for me, but then I am a happily married, emotionally stable 46 YO with a lot of life experience, perspective and an understanding that life isn’t always going to go my way. I don’t crave attention or validation from others. I am secure in myself and have a loving support system around me.

I am not the target of the celebrating- insecure, immature, lonely kids with none of the above.


What does this have to do with the Florida law? Do you have concrete specific examples of teachers teaching that is putting kids in danger?


It has nothing to do with the Florida law that I can see. I was merely responding to the persistent poster who, for some odd reason, keeps asking what it would take to turn me gay. Why don’t you read back a few posts, join the conversation, and try to figure out what point this person is trying to make?


Because there is no way to turn anyone gay. Period. Full stop. Nothing could have turned you gay in middle or high school and nothing can turn you gay now. Same for kids today. You’re either gay or not. Nothing any teacher tells you, talks about, reads to you, etc would have ever turned you gay. You can’t be turned gay not because you’re “happily married” (spoiler alert- many gay people are happily married too), but because — wait for it — you’re not gay, never was, and never will be. Same for any kid in school today. They’re either gay or not. Period.


Oh, it’s the Full Stop gal again. Hi!
Of course what you’re saying is 100% incorrect. Just go to any high school or kids school for that matter, and talk to the girls. Virtually all of them will tell you that they know someone- or they themselves- are experimenting with their sexuality. This can mean anything at that age and of course the vast majority will turn out to be straight as adults. So there goes your theory


Oh hey, random pervert. Hi! Just how many random girls at any high school for that matter are you actually approaching to speak with them about their sexuality? You might want to check that.
But OK, I'll bite. Virtually all of them huh? That seems... slightly suspicious.
But you just said it yourself. According to your incredibly impressive but perverted scientific research of a creep, the vast majority will turn out straight. Which I assume is your desired goal.
So what's the f-ing problem. They experiment, they question, and -- much to your delight -- they wind up straight. No actual turning gay here to be seen.
What's the point of this legislation then?


I have kids in high school, which is how I know what I'm talking about. Do you? I would bet my bottom dollar that you do not, but you seem somehow obsessed with this issue anyway.

Kids this age should not be experimenting with gay sex, or with any sex for that matter. Why are people like you so intent on sexualizing children and teens that bills like the Florida law are necessary for their protection?

I am sincerely sorry for any trauma or pain in your life that causes you to think the way that you do. But trust me when I say that attempting to harm other people's children is not the answer to what you're dealing with.


Hand over your bottom dollar. Actually, never mind, I don't want it.
Yes, I have kids in high school and middle school. 8th grade and 10th grade to be exact. Even with that, I have yet to survey virtually all of them about their sexuality. Imagine that.
You think, if someone reads a book that has a gay character in it, they're going to run out and have gay sex? You really think that? You think a teacher talking about the civil rights movement that includes gay rights, they're going to think, "I gotta get me some of that STAT!" You think if they talk about an event in history that involves a gay person, they're going to look across the room and all of a sudden have feelings for someone of the same sex?
The only person sexualizing children in this scenario are people like you. Hidden trauma, indeed.


That is not the teaching we’re talking about and you know it. You’re deflecting from the issue of the promotion of one form of sexuality over others. What do you think the entire pride month celebration in schools is all about?


OK, now I know you're either a troll or aren't in Florida or both. THAT'S EXACTLY THE TEACHING THAT'S AFFECTED. That's the entire purpose of "don't say gay" because if you come home and your child was exposed, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's wiping them out of existence. There is literally no promotion of one sexuality OVER another. I'll give you a small hint as to what pride month celebration is - it's so that we don't churn out more homophobic bigots like you. You are a walking billboard as to the extreme necessity of pride month. How dare you insinuate that they have nothing to be proud about you awful, awful person.


So you are "proud" of your sexuality? Very odd.
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Anonymous wrote:It's funny to see people defending this when they really have no idea what the bill actually is. It is very very much is erasing the history of many people.


People's history is based on their sexuality?

And you think conservatives are obsessed with this issue?
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You understand that gay people existed before today, correct?

Have you not heard of Harvey milk?

Do you not know or understand the trials and tribulations that gay individuals have gone through across the world are in our country... If you don't then you're likely from Florida and will never know
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Anonymous wrote:It's funny to see people defending this when they really have no idea what the bill actually is. It is very very much is erasing the history of many people.


People's history is based on their sexuality?

And you think conservatives are obsessed with this issue?


You understand that minorities have history right?
Like native Americans have history and culture that it is good to learn about. So do blacks so do African Americans, So do the Jews, so do pacific Islanders so do women, a whole host of people that are not straight white and men.

Student should be able to learn about these cultural issues and the significance and the trials and tribulations these people have gone through throughout their lives.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have liked teachers promoting homosexuality to me in high school. I didn't even like it in college when the Shakespeare professor made a weak argument that Shakespeare was gay, and saying these are gay plays, at one point saying Greeks though the ideal relationship was between men and boys.

I don't know if Shakespeare was gay, but there is a stronger argument to be made for this if you go with Shakespeare didn't write the plays and it was instead the Earl of Oxford.


NO ONE IS "PROMOTING" HOMOSEXUALITY YOU IDIOT.


Do you prefer the word "celebrating?" It's basically the same thing.


First of all, no, those words don't mean the same thing.
Second of all, allowing people to be seen as human beings and worthy of dignity isn't celebrating or promoting anything. It's acknowledging that not everyone is the same, and you don't get to tell someone they are offensive at their core.
Third of all, think of this way. How much of this "celebrating gayness" would it take to turn you gay? How much? I'll wait...


I'm not an impressionable tween or teenager.


No one is changing their orientation based on pressure. Even when gay people were forced to marry they never changed their orientation, they just suppressed it.

What makes you feel so threatened by the idea that gay people exist and that they are gay from birth?


Pressure?? Are you kidding? It’s not “pressure.” It’s full celebration and reward of attention


Ok. What amount of full celebration and reward of attention would it take to turn you gay?


No amount would do it for me, but then I am a happily married, emotionally stable 46 YO with a lot of life experience, perspective and an understanding that life isn’t always going to go my way. I don’t crave attention or validation from others. I am secure in myself and have a loving support system around me.

I am not the target of the celebrating- insecure, immature, lonely kids with none of the above.


What does this have to do with the Florida law? Do you have concrete specific examples of teachers teaching that is putting kids in danger?


It has nothing to do with the Florida law that I can see. I was merely responding to the persistent poster who, for some odd reason, keeps asking what it would take to turn me gay. Why don’t you read back a few posts, join the conversation, and try to figure out what point this person is trying to make?


Because there is no way to turn anyone gay. Period. Full stop. Nothing could have turned you gay in middle or high school and nothing can turn you gay now. Same for kids today. You’re either gay or not. Nothing any teacher tells you, talks about, reads to you, etc would have ever turned you gay. You can’t be turned gay not because you’re “happily married” (spoiler alert- many gay people are happily married too), but because — wait for it — you’re not gay, never was, and never will be. Same for any kid in school today. They’re either gay or not. Period.


Oh, it’s the Full Stop gal again. Hi!
Of course what you’re saying is 100% incorrect. Just go to any high school or kids school for that matter, and talk to the girls. Virtually all of them will tell you that they know someone- or they themselves- are experimenting with their sexuality. This can mean anything at that age and of course the vast majority will turn out to be straight as adults. So there goes your theory


Oh hey, random pervert. Hi! Just how many random girls at any high school for that matter are you actually approaching to speak with them about their sexuality? You might want to check that.
But OK, I'll bite. Virtually all of them huh? That seems... slightly suspicious.
But you just said it yourself. According to your incredibly impressive but perverted scientific research of a creep, the vast majority will turn out straight. Which I assume is your desired goal.
So what's the f-ing problem. They experiment, they question, and -- much to your delight -- they wind up straight. No actual turning gay here to be seen.
What's the point of this legislation then?


I have kids in high school, which is how I know what I'm talking about. Do you? I would bet my bottom dollar that you do not, but you seem somehow obsessed with this issue anyway.

Kids this age should not be experimenting with gay sex, or with any sex for that matter. Why are people like you so intent on sexualizing children and teens that bills like the Florida law are necessary for their protection?

I am sincerely sorry for any trauma or pain in your life that causes you to think the way that you do. But trust me when I say that attempting to harm other people's children is not the answer to what you're dealing with.


Hand over your bottom dollar. Actually, never mind, I don't want it.
Yes, I have kids in high school and middle school. 8th grade and 10th grade to be exact. Even with that, I have yet to survey virtually all of them about their sexuality. Imagine that.
You think, if someone reads a book that has a gay character in it, they're going to run out and have gay sex? You really think that? You think a teacher talking about the civil rights movement that includes gay rights, they're going to think, "I gotta get me some of that STAT!" You think if they talk about an event in history that involves a gay person, they're going to look across the room and all of a sudden have feelings for someone of the same sex?
The only person sexualizing children in this scenario are people like you. Hidden trauma, indeed.


That is not the teaching we’re talking about and you know it. You’re deflecting from the issue of the promotion of one form of sexuality over others. What do you think the entire pride month celebration in schools is all about?


OK, now I know you're either a troll or aren't in Florida or both. THAT'S EXACTLY THE TEACHING THAT'S AFFECTED. That's the entire purpose of "don't say gay" because if you come home and your child was exposed, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's wiping them out of existence. There is literally no promotion of one sexuality OVER another. I'll give you a small hint as to what pride month celebration is - it's so that we don't churn out more homophobic bigots like you. You are a walking billboard as to the extreme necessity of pride month. How dare you insinuate that they have nothing to be proud about you awful, awful person.


So you are "proud" of your sexuality? Very odd.


I'm proud of every portion of myself, and am proud not to be in a closet. Yes. I'm proud of my husband and my family and how we can walk hand-in-hand down the street. Yes, I am.
On the flip side, you are suggesting that people remain closeted if they don't match what you believe is "correct." Their response to your hatred is, "how dare you, I'm proud of myself and happy with myself." That's the pride people are talking about. You are just a sick and damaged person, and you are causing harm. I hope you're proud of yourself; I'm sure you are. Ironic, ain't it?
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