Elrich property tax increase

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Anonymous wrote:his”record spending” with county dollars on climate change is ludicrous. it is 100% virtue signaling because it doesn’t do any good on a micro scale.

Which macro scale actions do you support, with respect to climate change?

working together like the Paris agreement.
National standards here backed by federal dollars. use county dollars for county programs

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a summary of all the changes:
https://mocoshow.com/blog/county-executive-recommends-10-cent-increase-in-countys-property-tax-rate-to-be-used-exclusively-to-fully-fund-mcps-budget-request/

Notice things like we'll now have to pay for parking on Saturdays. That'll be great for businesses in places like Bethesda -- consumers will just move on to nearby DC or VA instead for their shopping.

No joke. I quit going to downtown Bethesda many years ago thanks to the horrendous parking situation much less hassle to go to Tysons even with the extra driving

The "horrendous parking situation" meaning you have to pay a few dollars to park in a garage that might not be right across from your destination, because the one right across from your destination is full of the cars of other people who parked there?

Horrendous parking situation in the sense of already not having enough garages and then waiting for a huge tow of cars to go in and out of a parking garage, delaying me by 10 minutes, driving to the next garage and having the same experience, finally finding something 0.8 miles away and showing up 30 minutes late to my reservation which has now been given away

There is a huge excess of parking in downtown Bethesda. A few of the garages are in demand, the rest are mostly empty.

https://www.bethesda.org/bethesda/parking-map

You can nitpick my experience all you want. The reality is that the supply of parking is insufficient for areas where they expect people to actually want to shop or eat, and therefore they have lost a lot of business opportunities

I'm not nitpicking your experience at all. I'm sure it happened just as you said. The reality is that

1. there is a huge number of empty parking spaces in downtown Bethesda
2. there are a lot of people going where you're trying to go (because otherwise the parking garages would be empty)

You're describing a It's So Crowded, Nobody Goes There Anymore problem, not a lack-of-parking problem.

The problem with Bethesda is that it’s for old people now. Their generation likes driving around in big cars and doesn’t like walking very far even if they can.

No, it's not. If it were, it wouldn't be crowded. What does seem to be true, is that Bethesda is for people who want to park in front of their destination for free to complain about.

Hahaha. You have no clue about how the demographics are changing in this county and especially in the expensive parts.

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The problem with Bethesda parking is they're way too zealous about enforceent. During the week, you have to pay for parking until 10pm. What other place has paid parking going on until that late?

The cost to park isnt' crazy, but if you overstay the slightest bit, you get a ticket and that's $50+.

So, I can go out for dinner toinght and pay for parking in Bethesda, or go basically anywhere else in the area and public parking is free in the evenings.

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I wrote a post about this on Twitter and Facebook and decided to turn it into a full fledged articles with sources, links and more information.

"Taxes Up, Services Down: Why Accountability Matters More Than Ever"

https://moderatelymoco.com/taxes-up-services-down-why-accountability-matters-more-than-ever/

- Moderately MOCO

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with Bethesda parking is they're way too zealous about enforceent. During the week, you have to pay for parking until 10pm. What other place has paid parking going on until that late?

The cost to park isnt' crazy, but if you overstay the slightest bit, you get a ticket and that's $50+.

So, I can go out for dinner toinght and pay for parking in Bethesda, or go basically anywhere else in the area and public parking is free in the evenings.

All of the fines are too high. It’s an equity issue.

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Once I’m ready for a new house, I’ll definitely be looking outside moco. Sad what it has come to.

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Mink and Jawando are introducing a recordation tax increase bill on Tuesday.

These people have lost their minds

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Maybe some of the new revenue could be used for an economic development plan. I doubt it though.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe some of the new revenue could be used for an economic development plan. I doubt it though.

That's the thing, right? I'm all for safety nets, but they should be boosting the economy to pay for them. Not just increasing taxes. That further stagnates things. Nobody has a real plan to create jobs that provide today's younger workers a way up the ladder.

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Anonymous wrote:So a 10% increase in property tax to keep up with inflation but he wants a 3% cap on rent increases?

MoCo homestead - all got $692 off the bill. Assessment could be 1m or less than 100k. No income submission and it was a flat amount on owner occupied.
>assessed at 1m the county effective rate for owner occupied was 92.23 and 99.15 for an investment property or any non owner occupied.
>assessed at 100k the county effective rate for owner occupied was 29.95 and 99.15 for an investment property or any non owner occupied

Changes in homestead require submitted and approved Homestead Applications.
https://mocoshow.com/blog/residential-property-owners-must-have-approved-homestead-application-on-file-to-be-eligible-for-692-montgomery-property-tax-credit/

You can't just look at the base moco rate and not consider what revenue rolls in and actual rates without looking at homestead.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course.

Democrats in MoCo are incapable of growing the economy and controlling spending. The only solution ever is to raise taxes.

Go look up the entire employment history of virtually everyone running MoCo. They've hardly ever had real jobs in their entire careers and have only worked for the govt, think tanks, or communist activist org fluff. They entirely depend on tax dollars funding their salaries, so of course they want to raise taxes. By 'not keeping up with inflation', they really mean they feel like their own personal salaries aren't keeping up with inflation, therefore raise taxes.

MoCo is turning into Baltimore - huge taxes that will cause the base to flee, flight of businesses due to hostile govt policies, and a downward death spiral where the only solution is to keep raising taxes. R.I.P. MoCo.

MoCo is already there

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Anonymous wrote:So a 10% increase in property tax to keep up with inflation but he wants a 3% cap on rent increases?

MoCo homestead - all got $692 off the bill. Assessment could be 1m or less than 100k. No income submission and it was a flat amount on owner occupied.
>assessed at 1m the county effective rate for owner occupied was 92.23 and 99.15 for an investment property or any non owner occupied.
>assessed at 100k the county effective rate for owner occupied was 29.95 and 99.15 for an investment property or any non owner occupied

Changes in homestead require submitted and approved Homestead Applications.
https://mocoshow.com/blog/residential-property-owners-must-have-approved-homestead-application-on-file-to-be-eligible-for-692-montgomery-property-tax-credit/

You can't just look at the base moco rate and not consider what revenue rolls in and actual rates without looking at homestead.

The $692 is not the Homestead Tax Credit, but instead the Income Tax Offset Credit (ITOC). Property owners must have applied for the Homestead Tax Credit to receive the ITOC.

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I love how they classify this trash as a '10 cent increase', when in reality they're calling for a 10.2% increase. That's massive.

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Anonymous wrote:So a 10% increase in property tax to keep up with inflation but he wants a 3% cap on rent increases?

MoCo homestead - all got $692 off the bill. Assessment could be 1m or less than 100k. No income submission and it was a flat amount on owner occupied.
>assessed at 1m the county effective rate for owner occupied was 92.23 and 99.15 for an investment property or any non owner occupied.
>assessed at 100k the county effective rate for owner occupied was 29.95 and 99.15 for an investment property or any non owner occupied

Changes in homestead require submitted and approved Homestead Applications.
https://mocoshow.com/blog/residential-property-owners-must-have-approved-homestead-application-on-file-to-be-eligible-for-692-montgomery-property-tax-credit/

You can't just look at the base moco rate and not consider what revenue rolls in and actual rates without looking at homestead.

The $692 is not the Homestead Tax Credit, but instead the Income Tax Offset Credit (ITOC). Property owners must have applied for the Homestead Tax Credit to receive the ITOC.

Yes-I get it. The $692 ITOC is paid by a credit on property taxes for owner occupied units and is not determined by income. It reduces the amount of property tax bills for owner occupied units so if you rent or have investment property you don't get the $692 per unit. Bottom line is what has to paid in property tax and all the possible credits related to having the homestead.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a summary of all the changes:
https://mocoshow.com/blog/county-executive-recommends-10-cent-increase-in-countys-property-tax-rate-to-be-used-exclusively-to-fully-fund-mcps-budget-request/

Notice things like we'll now have to pay for parking on Saturdays. That'll be great for businesses in places like Bethesda -- consumers will just move on to nearby DC or VA instead for their shopping.

No joke. I quit going to downtown Bethesda many years ago thanks to the horrendous parking situation much less hassle to go to Tysons even with the extra driving

The "horrendous parking situation" meaning you have to pay a few dollars to park in a garage that might not be right across from your destination, because the one right across from your destination is full of the cars of other people who parked there?

Horrendous parking situation in the sense of already not having enough garages and then waiting for a huge tow of cars to go in and out of a parking garage, delaying me by 10 minutes, driving to the next garage and having the same experience, finally finding something 0.8 miles away and showing up 30 minutes late to my reservation which has now been given away

There is a huge excess of parking in downtown Bethesda. A few of the garages are in demand, the rest are mostly empty.

https://www.bethesda.org/bethesda/parking-map

You can nitpick my experience all you want. The reality is that the supply of parking is insufficient for areas where they expect people to actually want to shop or eat, and therefore they have lost a lot of business opportunities

I'm not nitpicking your experience at all. I'm sure it happened just as you said. The reality is that

1. there is a huge number of empty parking spaces in downtown Bethesda
2. there are a lot of people going where you're trying to go (because otherwise the parking garages would be empty)

You're describing a It's So Crowded, Nobody Goes There Anymore problem, not a lack-of-parking problem.

The problem with Bethesda is that it’s for old people now. Their generation likes driving around in big cars and doesn’t like walking very far even if they can.

No, it's not. If it were, it wouldn't be crowded. What does seem to be true, is that Bethesda is for people who want to park in front of their destination for free to complain about.

Oh, you mean the people who wanted to live in a suburb???