That is odd and a good point. Their controllers would have been expecting this plane, so it's strange they didn't report it. |
Totally and utterly untrue. You have zero clue how atc works. |
+1 We’ve known this for a long time. |
I don't know, but he did "practice" the route on his at-home flight simulator. Perhaps it seemed poetic to him. Just fly until the fuel runs out, crash in an extremely remote area, never to be found. Mysterious and dramatic. |
I felt like this wasn't head-on addressed in the Netflix documentary. They seemed to kind of allude to it, talk about the electronics center in the belly of the plane, and then move on. So...could you turn off the signals from the cockpit or not? |
From the article: It is the captain, Zaharie, who raises concerns. The first warning is his portrayal in the official reports as someone beyond reproach—a good pilot and placid family man who liked to play with a flight simulator. This is the image promoted by Zaharie’s family, but it is contradicted by multiple indications of trouble that too obviously have been brushed over. The Malaysian police report held back on divulging what was known about the captain, Zaharie. No one was surprised. The police discovered aspects of Zaharie’s life that should have caused them to dig more deeply. The formal conclusions they drew were inadequate. The official account, referring to Zaharie as the PIC, or pilot in command, had this to say: The PIC’s ability to handle stress at work was reported to be good. There was no known history of apathy, anxiety, or irritability. There were no significant changes in his lifestyle, interpersonal conflict, or family stresses … There were no behavioral signs of social isolation, change of habits or interest … On studying the PIC’s behavioral pattern on the CCTV [at the airport] on the day of the flight and prior 3 flights, there were no significant behavioral changes observed. On all the CCTV recordings the appearance was similar, i.e. well-groomed and attired. The gait, posture, facial expressions and mannerisms were his normal characteristics. This was either irrelevant or at odds with what was knowable about Zaharie. The truth, as I discovered after speaking in Kuala Lumpur with people who knew him or knew about him, is that Zaharie was often lonely and sad. His wife had moved out, and was living in the family’s second house. By his own admission to friends, he spent a lot of time pacing empty rooms waiting for the days between flights to go by. He was also a romantic. He is known to have established a wistful relationship with a married woman and her three children, one of whom was disabled, and to have obsessed over two young internet models, whom he encountered on social media, and for whom he left Facebook comments that apparently did not elicit responses. Some were shyly sexual. He mentioned in one comment, for example, that one of the girls, who was wearing a robe in a posted photo, looked like she had just emerged from a shower. Zaharie seems to have become somewhat disconnected from his earlier, well-established life. He was in touch with his children, but they were grown and gone. The detachment and solitude that can accompany the use of social media—and Zaharie used social media a lot—probably did not help. There is a strong suspicion among investigators in the aviation and intelligence communities that he was clinically depressed. If Malaysia were a country where, in official circles, the truth was welcome, then the police portrait of Zaharie as a healthy and happy man would carry some weight. But Malaysia is not such a country, and the official omission of evidence to the contrary only adds to all the other evidence that Zaharie was a troubled man. Forensic examinations of Zaharie’s simulator by the FBI revealed that he experimented with a flight profile roughly matching that of MH370—a flight north around Indonesia followed by a long run to the south, ending in fuel exhaustion over the Indian Ocean. Malaysian investigators dismissed this flight profile as merely one of several hundred that the simulator had recorded. That is true, as far as it goes, which is not far enough. Victor Iannello, an engineer and entrepreneur in Roanoke, Virginia, who has become another prominent member of the Independent Group and has done extensive analysis of the simulated flight, underscores what the Malaysian investigators ignored. Of all the profiles extracted from the simulator, the one that matched MH370’s path was the only one that Zaharie did not run as a continuous flight—in other words, taking off on the simulator and letting the flight play out, hour after hour, until it reached the destination airport. Instead he advanced the flight manually in multiple stages, repeatedly jumping the flight forward and subtracting the fuel as necessary until it was gone. Iannello believes that Zaharie was responsible for the diversion. Given that there was nothing technical that Zaharie could have learned by rehearsing the act on a gamelike Microsoft consumer product, Iannello suspects that the purpose of the simulator flight may have been to leave a bread-crumb trail to say goodbye. Referring to the flight profile that MH370 would follow, Iannello said of Zaharie, “It’s as if he was simulating a simulation.” Without a note of explanation, Zaharie’s reasoning is impossible to know. But the simulator flight cannot easily be dismissed as a random coincidence. |
Enlighten me |
Investigators in the aviation and intelligence communities are NOT trained in clinical diagnosis of depression. Anyone can see what they see what they want in hindsight. Besides, we all contain multitudes. Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbor said he was a great and helpful guy. I don't know why there is so much credibility placed on the Independent group. They seem to be most closely following the US's stance. On the Netflix show it said that because route had been plotted manually, rather than flown, that it was less relevant. This article says the opposite. Also, as I posted above, if he did not show the extreme climb in elevation in this it seems worthless, since the entire plan hinges on this point being successful, otherwise he has a 238 angry people ready to take him down in a minute. This kind of suicide would be such an outlier compared with other pilot suicides. It makes no sense. I think it's the least likely theory. He may have been involved, but if so, it was not a suicide mission. |
PP back to add, that i forgot to say how rich it is for him to say: "If Malaysia were a country where, in official circles, the truth was welcome..."
GMAFB. No government is prone to absolute truth. None. |
Sorry -- I clearly am pushing "post" before I'm finished. The data is from the US and came two years later. If they welcomed truth, wouldn't they have released it sooner? Who even knows if it's true. They could make anything up to serve their narrative. That is all, for now. ![]() |
Yes you can. They were just trying to show it didn't HAVE to be the pilot. It was the pilot. |
PP-Which theory do you think is the truth? |
I recall that we knew fairly early into this that the pilot had run the same route on his simulator that MH470 ended up taking.
Under that theory, no cell reception because over the ocean, so no passengers could call during the 15 min of oxygen. Pilot has more, so he goes, what, 30 min and then passes out, then dies. So there is not 6 hours of him piloting the plane until it runs out of fuel. It seems like a straightforward theory. The other straightforward theory is that there was some batteries or something in the cargo that blew up, so the pilot had no time to communicate with anyone. If so, that would be en route, in that body of water by Vietnam. Do we know for sure that they've found a signal in the Indian Ocean? That would distinguish between these two theories. |
No you misunderstood, they covered this in the show you can only turn it off underneath not from the cockpit. |
That's not the way I heard it. We need an expert in the 777 to enlighten us! |