MH370 New Netflix Special

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling 14:29, especially when you can't bother to read what you actually posted. None of this answers pp's question asking for actual reporting/proof that "his wife and children left him the day before the incident." These are all from her sources:

"The friend spoke to the New Zealand Herald on the condition of anonymity. Fairfax Media hasn't been able to independently verify the claims."
https://amp.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-pilot-terribly-upset-by-marriage-breakup-20140326-zqn4p.html


"Speaking to The Atlantic, a man claiming to be a fellow 777 captain and friend admits his "marital problems" could have been a contributing factor to his emotional state at the time of the apparent murder-suicide." This is a blatant tabloid. Do better PP.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3249313/married-mh370-pilot-53-bombarded-instagram-model-twins-with-97-creepy-messages/amp/


"A combination of radar data, expert analysis and educated conjecture points to the conclusion that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a troubled, lonely man who deliberately killed all 238 passengers and crew on board the Malaysian Airlines flight."
PP GMAFB. Educated conjecture is not a fact. It doesn't say anything, and doesn't even mention the day prior.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/toc/2019/07/


This basically relies on the above Atlantic article, you know "conjecture" and says: "It is understood that Zaharie was experiencing a marriage breakdown at the time and was described by some who knew him as “often lonely and sad”. His wife had moved out and was living in the family’s second house." YET there's nothing there saying day before.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/06/18/mh370-pilot-suicide/amp/


So it's a total FABRICATION that he moved out the day prior.


You can Google yourself - it was in one of the many articles on the subject
Anonymous
^^^ what does it matter if day before or week before - it was just before and contributed to his unstable state of mind …
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling 14:29, especially when you can't bother to read what you actually posted. None of this answers pp's question asking for actual reporting/proof that "his wife and children left him the day before the incident." These are all from her sources:

"The friend spoke to the New Zealand Herald on the condition of anonymity. Fairfax Media hasn't been able to independently verify the claims."
https://amp.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-pilot-terribly-upset-by-marriage-breakup-20140326-zqn4p.html


"Speaking to The Atlantic, a man claiming to be a fellow 777 captain and friend admits his "marital problems" could have been a contributing factor to his emotional state at the time of the apparent murder-suicide." This is a blatant tabloid. Do better PP.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3249313/married-mh370-pilot-53-bombarded-instagram-model-twins-with-97-creepy-messages/amp/


"A combination of radar data, expert analysis and educated conjecture points to the conclusion that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a troubled, lonely man who deliberately killed all 238 passengers and crew on board the Malaysian Airlines flight."
PP GMAFB. Educated conjecture is not a fact. It doesn't say anything, and doesn't even mention the day prior.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/toc/2019/07/


This basically relies on the above Atlantic article, you know "conjecture" and says: "It is understood that Zaharie was experiencing a marriage breakdown at the time and was described by some who knew him as “often lonely and sad”. His wife had moved out and was living in the family’s second house." YET there's nothing there saying day before.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/06/18/mh370-pilot-suicide/amp/


So it's a total FABRICATION that he moved out the day prior.


You can Google yourself - it was in one of the many articles on the subject



Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah
Mr Zaharie, 53, is a veteran pilot who joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and logged 18,000 hours of flying experience.
The father of three, described as a passionate cook and keen fisherman, lived with his wife in an upmarket gated community in Kuala Lumpur.
Several reports have, however, suggested that his wife and children moved out of the family home the day before the flight, after his wife told him she was leaving him

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26628684.amp
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 70yo mother was friends with a woman whose middle-aged son (American) was on MH 370. Her pain and devastation at not even knowing what happened to him absolutely haunts me. She passed away from cancer last year and I truly hope they are reunited and she can be at peace.


I'm sorry to hear that she didn't get closure before passing. It's truly awful for the families and friends who had loved ones on the plan.


Big plus one

Anonymous
Every story of his issues with his wife has been fabricated!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling 14:29, especially when you can't bother to read what you actually posted. None of this answers pp's question asking for actual reporting/proof that "his wife and children left him the day before the incident." These are all from her sources:

"The friend spoke to the New Zealand Herald on the condition of anonymity. Fairfax Media hasn't been able to independently verify the claims."
https://amp.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-pilot-terribly-upset-by-marriage-breakup-20140326-zqn4p.html


"Speaking to The Atlantic, a man claiming to be a fellow 777 captain and friend admits his "marital problems" could have been a contributing factor to his emotional state at the time of the apparent murder-suicide." This is a blatant tabloid. Do better PP.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3249313/married-mh370-pilot-53-bombarded-instagram-model-twins-with-97-creepy-messages/amp/


"A combination of radar data, expert analysis and educated conjecture points to the conclusion that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a troubled, lonely man who deliberately killed all 238 passengers and crew on board the Malaysian Airlines flight."
PP GMAFB. Educated conjecture is not a fact. It doesn't say anything, and doesn't even mention the day prior.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/toc/2019/07/


This basically relies on the above Atlantic article, you know "conjecture" and says: "It is understood that Zaharie was experiencing a marriage breakdown at the time and was described by some who knew him as “often lonely and sad”. His wife had moved out and was living in the family’s second house." YET there's nothing there saying day before.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/06/18/mh370-pilot-suicide/amp/


So it's a total FABRICATION that he moved out the day prior.


You can Google yourself - it was in one of the many articles on the subject


WTF! I don't need to Google it because IT DOESN'T EXIST. As proven by your Googled articles.

I'm sorry "reports" and "unnamed sources" are irrelevant. It's shoddy journalism. Why didn't his wife come out and say that that she left the day prior? There is no confirmation that she left a week or a month or year prior -- only that they weren't currently together.

I'm shocked at how much people are willing to believe. It's a regurgitated narrative that has no basis in fact. Zero.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling 14:29, especially when you can't bother to read what you actually posted. None of this answers pp's question asking for actual reporting/proof that "his wife and children left him the day before the incident." These are all from her sources:

"The friend spoke to the New Zealand Herald on the condition of anonymity. Fairfax Media hasn't been able to independently verify the claims."
https://amp.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-pilot-terribly-upset-by-marriage-breakup-20140326-zqn4p.html


"Speaking to The Atlantic, a man claiming to be a fellow 777 captain and friend admits his "marital problems" could have been a contributing factor to his emotional state at the time of the apparent murder-suicide." This is a blatant tabloid. Do better PP.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3249313/married-mh370-pilot-53-bombarded-instagram-model-twins-with-97-creepy-messages/amp/


"A combination of radar data, expert analysis and educated conjecture points to the conclusion that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a troubled, lonely man who deliberately killed all 238 passengers and crew on board the Malaysian Airlines flight."
PP GMAFB. Educated conjecture is not a fact. It doesn't say anything, and doesn't even mention the day prior.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/toc/2019/07/


This basically relies on the above Atlantic article, you know "conjecture" and says: "It is understood that Zaharie was experiencing a marriage breakdown at the time and was described by some who knew him as “often lonely and sad”. His wife had moved out and was living in the family’s second house." YET there's nothing there saying day before.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/06/18/mh370-pilot-suicide/amp/


So it's a total FABRICATION that he moved out the day prior.


You can Google yourself - it was in one of the many articles on the subject



Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah
Mr Zaharie, 53, is a veteran pilot who joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and logged 18,000 hours of flying experience.
The father of three, described as a passionate cook and keen fisherman, lived with his wife in an upmarket gated community in Kuala Lumpur.
Several reports have, however, suggested that his wife and children moved out of the family home the day before the flight, after his wife told him she was leaving him

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26628684.amp


What reports? Certainly wasn't first hand. When the wife comes out and says that, I'll believe it. Until she does, it means nothing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling 14:29, especially when you can't bother to read what you actually posted. None of this answers pp's question asking for actual reporting/proof that "his wife and children left him the day before the incident." These are all from her sources:

"The friend spoke to the New Zealand Herald on the condition of anonymity. Fairfax Media hasn't been able to independently verify the claims."
https://amp.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-pilot-terribly-upset-by-marriage-breakup-20140326-zqn4p.html


"Speaking to The Atlantic, a man claiming to be a fellow 777 captain and friend admits his "marital problems" could have been a contributing factor to his emotional state at the time of the apparent murder-suicide." This is a blatant tabloid. Do better PP.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3249313/married-mh370-pilot-53-bombarded-instagram-model-twins-with-97-creepy-messages/amp/


"A combination of radar data, expert analysis and educated conjecture points to the conclusion that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a troubled, lonely man who deliberately killed all 238 passengers and crew on board the Malaysian Airlines flight."
PP GMAFB. Educated conjecture is not a fact. It doesn't say anything, and doesn't even mention the day prior.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/toc/2019/07/


This basically relies on the above Atlantic article, you know "conjecture" and says: "It is understood that Zaharie was experiencing a marriage breakdown at the time and was described by some who knew him as “often lonely and sad”. His wife had moved out and was living in the family’s second house." YET there's nothing there saying day before.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/06/18/mh370-pilot-suicide/amp/


So it's a total FABRICATION that he moved out the day prior.


You can Google yourself - it was in one of the many articles on the subject



Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah
Mr Zaharie, 53, is a veteran pilot who joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and logged 18,000 hours of flying experience.
The father of three, described as a passionate cook and keen fisherman, lived with his wife in an upmarket gated community in Kuala Lumpur.
Several reports have, however, suggested that his wife and children moved out of the family home the day before the flight, after his wife told him she was leaving him

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26628684.amp


What reports? Certainly wasn't first hand. When the wife comes out and says that, I'll believe it. Until she does, it means nothing.


Credible media outlets in Australia and New Zeland forst reported it on a source confidential basis but described at least one of the people making these assertions was a fellow MA airline pilot captain.

Obviously they don’t want to go on the record as it is a tight community and sensitive subject … police don’t like to break ranks either but that does not mean there is no wrong doing.

The Malaysian government withheld incriminating evidence related from the official report - NYT reported on that 5 years ago.

This Netflix show is deliberately feeding conspiracy theories and presenting flimsy conjecture as the same as the much more solid evidence that points to pilot suicide mass murder.

If you want to believe conspiracy nonsense go ahead .

Anonymous

Shame on the Malaysian government for withholding evidence from its official investigative report that made it clear that the pilot had most likely masterminded a terrible act of suicide / mass murder. At least they did admit their air safety control protocols were lax though … hopefully, world-wide air traffic safety controls are much stricter now.


Former Australian prime minister says Malaysian officials long suspected the MH370 crash was a mass murder-suicide carried out by one of the pilots
* Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a new documentary airing Wednesday and Thursday that Malaysian officials long suspected the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crash was a murder-suicide.
* Abbott said top Malaysian officials believed the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah deliberately downed the jet carrying 239 people that disappeared while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.
https://www.businessinsider.com/malaysians-believe-mh370-mass-murder-suicide-former-australian-pm-says-2020-2



Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight
By Jeff Wise

New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html


MH370 experts think they’ve finally solved the mystery of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
May 15, 2018 at 11:57 a.m. ET
All but one of the 239 people on the doomed Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 had probably been unconscious — incapacitated by the sudden depressurization of the Boeing 777 — and had no way of knowing they were on an hours-long, meandering path to their deaths.
Along that path, a panel of aviation experts speculated Sunday, was a brief but telling detour near Penang, Malaysia, the home town of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. ….

Zaharie's suspected suicide might explain an oddity about the plane's final flight path: that unexpected turn to the left.

“Captain Zaharie dipped his wing to see Penang, his home town,” Simon Hardy, a Boeing 777 senior pilot and instructor, said on “60 Minutes.”
“If you look very carefully, you can see it's actually a turn to the left, and then start a long turn to the right. And then [he does] another left turn. So I spent a long time thinking about what this could be, what technical reason is there for this, and, after two months, three months thinking about this, I finally got the answer: Someone was looking out the window.”
“It might be a long, emotional goodbye,” Hardy added. “Or a short, emotional goodbye to his home town.”

On two occasions, whoever was in control of the plane — and was probably the only one awake — tipped the craft to the left. The experts believe Zaharie, the plane's pilot, was taking a final look.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/14/mh370-experts-think-theyve-finally-solved-the-mystery-of-the-doomed-malaysia-airlines-flight/


Australia's ex PM says Malaysia believed pilot downed MH370
https://www.dw.com/en/mh370-australias-former-pm-says-malaysia-believed-pilot-downed-jet-in-murder-suicide/a-52427285

02/19/2020
February 19, 2020
Malaysian authorities thought "from very, very early on" that the MH370 jet that vanished in 2014 was crashed intentionally by its pilot, Australia's former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed.

Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed that Malaysian authorities believe the MH370 flight, which went missing with 239 people on board, was downed by the pilot in a murder-suicide plot. 
The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines jet went missing on March 8, 2014, after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.

"My understanding from the very top level of the Malaysian government is that, from very, very early on here, they thought it was a murder-suicide by the pilot," Abbott, Australia's prime minister at the time the jet went missing, said in a show that will air in full later on Wednesday.
Australia played a large role in the 12,000-square-kilometer (4,600-square-mile) search in the Indian Ocean, the largest in aviation history, which came up empty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Shame on the Malaysian government for withholding evidence from its official investigative report that made it clear that the pilot had most likely masterminded a terrible act of suicide / mass murder. At least they did admit their air safety control protocols were lax though … hopefully, world-wide air traffic safety controls are much stricter now.


Former Australian prime minister says Malaysian officials long suspected the MH370 crash was a mass murder-suicide carried out by one of the pilots
* Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a new documentary airing Wednesday and Thursday that Malaysian officials long suspected the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crash was a murder-suicide.
* Abbott said top Malaysian officials believed the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah deliberately downed the jet carrying 239 people that disappeared while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.
https://www.businessinsider.com/malaysians-believe-mh370-mass-murder-suicide-former-australian-pm-says-2020-2



Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight
By Jeff Wise

New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html


MH370 experts think they’ve finally solved the mystery of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
May 15, 2018 at 11:57 a.m. ET
All but one of the 239 people on the doomed Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 had probably been unconscious — incapacitated by the sudden depressurization of the Boeing 777 — and had no way of knowing they were on an hours-long, meandering path to their deaths.
Along that path, a panel of aviation experts speculated Sunday, was a brief but telling detour near Penang, Malaysia, the home town of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. ….

Zaharie's suspected suicide might explain an oddity about the plane's final flight path: that unexpected turn to the left.

“Captain Zaharie dipped his wing to see Penang, his home town,” Simon Hardy, a Boeing 777 senior pilot and instructor, said on “60 Minutes.”
“If you look very carefully, you can see it's actually a turn to the left, and then start a long turn to the right. And then [he does] another left turn. So I spent a long time thinking about what this could be, what technical reason is there for this, and, after two months, three months thinking about this, I finally got the answer: Someone was looking out the window.”
“It might be a long, emotional goodbye,” Hardy added. “Or a short, emotional goodbye to his home town.”

On two occasions, whoever was in control of the plane — and was probably the only one awake — tipped the craft to the left. The experts believe Zaharie, the plane's pilot, was taking a final look.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/14/mh370-experts-think-theyve-finally-solved-the-mystery-of-the-doomed-malaysia-airlines-flight/


Australia's ex PM says Malaysia believed pilot downed MH370
https://www.dw.com/en/mh370-australias-former-pm-says-malaysia-believed-pilot-downed-jet-in-murder-suicide/a-52427285

02/19/2020
February 19, 2020
Malaysian authorities thought "from very, very early on" that the MH370 jet that vanished in 2014 was crashed intentionally by its pilot, Australia's former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed.

Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed that Malaysian authorities believe the MH370 flight, which went missing with 239 people on board, was downed by the pilot in a murder-suicide plot. 
The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines jet went missing on March 8, 2014, after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.

"My understanding from the very top level of the Malaysian government is that, from very, very early on here, they thought it was a murder-suicide by the pilot," Abbott, Australia's prime minister at the time the jet went missing, said in a show that will air in full later on Wednesday.
Australia played a large role in the 12,000-square-kilometer (4,600-square-mile) search in the Indian Ocean, the largest in aviation history, which came up empty.


LOL. You don’t like conspiracy theories but you included a source by Jeff Wise, who said in the documentary he thinks the Russians are involved.

It shouldn’t be a state secret that his wife left the day prior, yes? We don’t need an anonymous source to confirm “conjecture.” Is there reason she can’t confirm it? Should be be pretty straightforward—if it actually is.

I’m starting to think that one of the Chinese internet police found this thread by continually citing theory as fact.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Shame on the Malaysian government for withholding evidence from its official investigative report that made it clear that the pilot had most likely masterminded a terrible act of suicide / mass murder. At least they did admit their air safety control protocols were lax though … hopefully, world-wide air traffic safety controls are much stricter now.


Former Australian prime minister says Malaysian officials long suspected the MH370 crash was a mass murder-suicide carried out by one of the pilots
* Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a new documentary airing Wednesday and Thursday that Malaysian officials long suspected the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crash was a murder-suicide.
* Abbott said top Malaysian officials believed the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah deliberately downed the jet carrying 239 people that disappeared while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.
https://www.businessinsider.com/malaysians-believe-mh370-mass-murder-suicide-former-australian-pm-says-2020-2



Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight
By Jeff Wise

New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html


MH370 experts think they’ve finally solved the mystery of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
May 15, 2018 at 11:57 a.m. ET
All but one of the 239 people on the doomed Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 had probably been unconscious — incapacitated by the sudden depressurization of the Boeing 777 — and had no way of knowing they were on an hours-long, meandering path to their deaths.
Along that path, a panel of aviation experts speculated Sunday, was a brief but telling detour near Penang, Malaysia, the home town of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. ….

Zaharie's suspected suicide might explain an oddity about the plane's final flight path: that unexpected turn to the left.

“Captain Zaharie dipped his wing to see Penang, his home town,” Simon Hardy, a Boeing 777 senior pilot and instructor, said on “60 Minutes.”
“If you look very carefully, you can see it's actually a turn to the left, and then start a long turn to the right. And then [he does] another left turn. So I spent a long time thinking about what this could be, what technical reason is there for this, and, after two months, three months thinking about this, I finally got the answer: Someone was looking out the window.”
“It might be a long, emotional goodbye,” Hardy added. “Or a short, emotional goodbye to his home town.”

On two occasions, whoever was in control of the plane — and was probably the only one awake — tipped the craft to the left. The experts believe Zaharie, the plane's pilot, was taking a final look.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/14/mh370-experts-think-theyve-finally-solved-the-mystery-of-the-doomed-malaysia-airlines-flight/


Australia's ex PM says Malaysia believed pilot downed MH370
https://www.dw.com/en/mh370-australias-former-pm-says-malaysia-believed-pilot-downed-jet-in-murder-suicide/a-52427285

02/19/2020
February 19, 2020
Malaysian authorities thought "from very, very early on" that the MH370 jet that vanished in 2014 was crashed intentionally by its pilot, Australia's former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed.

Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed that Malaysian authorities believe the MH370 flight, which went missing with 239 people on board, was downed by the pilot in a murder-suicide plot. 
The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines jet went missing on March 8, 2014, after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.

"My understanding from the very top level of the Malaysian government is that, from very, very early on here, they thought it was a murder-suicide by the pilot," Abbott, Australia's prime minister at the time the jet went missing, said in a show that will air in full later on Wednesday.
Australia played a large role in the 12,000-square-kilometer (4,600-square-mile) search in the Indian Ocean, the largest in aviation history, which came up empty.


LOL. You don’t like conspiracy theories but you included a source by Jeff Wise, who said in the documentary he thinks the Russians are involved.

It shouldn’t be a state secret that his wife left the day prior, yes? We don’t need an anonymous source to confirm “conjecture.” Is there reason she can’t confirm it? Should be be pretty straightforward—if it actually is.

I’m starting to think that one of the Chinese internet police found this thread by continually citing theory as fact.



Righto Captain Conspiracy.

Jeff Wise was right the first time and many experts who spent a lot of time investigating this incident agreed on some version of his original theory - Wise’s
Russian conspiracy theory (there is a reason he lost so much credibility when he defended it beyond reason) - as it does not hold up to scrutiny… But he did a great public service by highlighting how easy it would be for passengers to disrupt a flight by entering the electornic override controls through the unlocked carpeted hatch door entry in the front of business class.

Keep on believing those conspiracy theories - there are a million internet rabbit holes to get lost in ..,
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Shame on the Malaysian government for withholding evidence from its official investigative report that made it clear that the pilot had most likely masterminded a terrible act of suicide / mass murder. At least they did admit their air safety control protocols were lax though … hopefully, world-wide air traffic safety controls are much stricter now.


Former Australian prime minister says Malaysian officials long suspected the MH370 crash was a mass murder-suicide carried out by one of the pilots
* Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a new documentary airing Wednesday and Thursday that Malaysian officials long suspected the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crash was a murder-suicide.
* Abbott said top Malaysian officials believed the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah deliberately downed the jet carrying 239 people that disappeared while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.
https://www.businessinsider.com/malaysians-believe-mh370-mass-murder-suicide-former-australian-pm-says-2020-2



Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight
By Jeff Wise

New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html


MH370 experts think they’ve finally solved the mystery of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
May 15, 2018 at 11:57 a.m. ET
All but one of the 239 people on the doomed Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 had probably been unconscious — incapacitated by the sudden depressurization of the Boeing 777 — and had no way of knowing they were on an hours-long, meandering path to their deaths.
Along that path, a panel of aviation experts speculated Sunday, was a brief but telling detour near Penang, Malaysia, the home town of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. ….

Zaharie's suspected suicide might explain an oddity about the plane's final flight path: that unexpected turn to the left.

“Captain Zaharie dipped his wing to see Penang, his home town,” Simon Hardy, a Boeing 777 senior pilot and instructor, said on “60 Minutes.”
“If you look very carefully, you can see it's actually a turn to the left, and then start a long turn to the right. And then [he does] another left turn. So I spent a long time thinking about what this could be, what technical reason is there for this, and, after two months, three months thinking about this, I finally got the answer: Someone was looking out the window.”
“It might be a long, emotional goodbye,” Hardy added. “Or a short, emotional goodbye to his home town.”

On two occasions, whoever was in control of the plane — and was probably the only one awake — tipped the craft to the left. The experts believe Zaharie, the plane's pilot, was taking a final look.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/14/mh370-experts-think-theyve-finally-solved-the-mystery-of-the-doomed-malaysia-airlines-flight/


Australia's ex PM says Malaysia believed pilot downed MH370
https://www.dw.com/en/mh370-australias-former-pm-says-malaysia-believed-pilot-downed-jet-in-murder-suicide/a-52427285

02/19/2020
February 19, 2020
Malaysian authorities thought "from very, very early on" that the MH370 jet that vanished in 2014 was crashed intentionally by its pilot, Australia's former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed.

Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed that Malaysian authorities believe the MH370 flight, which went missing with 239 people on board, was downed by the pilot in a murder-suicide plot. 
The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines jet went missing on March 8, 2014, after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.

"My understanding from the very top level of the Malaysian government is that, from very, very early on here, they thought it was a murder-suicide by the pilot," Abbott, Australia's prime minister at the time the jet went missing, said in a show that will air in full later on Wednesday.
Australia played a large role in the 12,000-square-kilometer (4,600-square-mile) search in the Indian Ocean, the largest in aviation history, which came up empty.


LOL. You don’t like conspiracy theories but you included a source by Jeff Wise, who said in the documentary he thinks the Russians are involved.

It shouldn’t be a state secret that his wife left the day prior, yes? We don’t need an anonymous source to confirm “conjecture.” Is there reason she can’t confirm it? Should be be pretty straightforward—if it actually is.

I’m starting to think that one of the Chinese internet police found this thread by continually citing theory as fact.



Righto Captain Conspiracy.

Jeff Wise was right the first time and many experts who spent a lot of time investigating this incident agreed on some version of his original theory - Wise’s
Russian conspiracy theory (there is a reason he lost so much credibility when he defended it beyond reason) - as it does not hold up to scrutiny… But he did a great public service by highlighting how easy it would be for passengers to disrupt a flight by entering the electornic override controls through the unlocked carpeted hatch door entry in the front of business class.

Keep on believing those conspiracy theories - there are a million internet rabbit holes to get lost in ..,


I find it rich you think I’m a conspiracy theorist when I’m asking for a credible source. Any good journalist would expect as much. Again, we’re not talking about state secrets, when it might make sense to have a verified anonymous source.

But please carry on quoting “conspiracy theorists” when it serves you.
Anonymous
Why wouldn't someone whose legal husband might be responsible for the mass murder of hundreds of people come out and lend credence to the theory that he had done it intentionally?

*protecting one's children
*protecting one's assets
*in denial, too horrendous to contemplate/face
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't someone whose legal husband might be responsible for the mass murder of hundreds of people come out and lend credence to the theory that he had done it intentionally?

*protecting one's children
*protecting one's assets
*in denial, too horrendous to contemplate/face


Exactly

Plus even more so for colleagues employed by company that could be ruined by law suits. It nearly was ruined and required $1billion buyout by Malaysian government …
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Shame on the Malaysian government for withholding evidence from its official investigative report that made it clear that the pilot had most likely masterminded a terrible act of suicide / mass murder. At least they did admit their air safety control protocols were lax though … hopefully, world-wide air traffic safety controls are much stricter now.


Former Australian prime minister says Malaysian officials long suspected the MH370 crash was a mass murder-suicide carried out by one of the pilots
* Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a new documentary airing Wednesday and Thursday that Malaysian officials long suspected the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crash was a murder-suicide.
* Abbott said top Malaysian officials believed the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah deliberately downed the jet carrying 239 people that disappeared while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.
https://www.businessinsider.com/malaysians-believe-mh370-mass-murder-suicide-former-australian-pm-says-2020-2



Exclusive: MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight
By Jeff Wise

New York has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html


MH370 experts think they’ve finally solved the mystery of the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
May 15, 2018 at 11:57 a.m. ET
All but one of the 239 people on the doomed Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 had probably been unconscious — incapacitated by the sudden depressurization of the Boeing 777 — and had no way of knowing they were on an hours-long, meandering path to their deaths.
Along that path, a panel of aviation experts speculated Sunday, was a brief but telling detour near Penang, Malaysia, the home town of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. ….

Zaharie's suspected suicide might explain an oddity about the plane's final flight path: that unexpected turn to the left.

“Captain Zaharie dipped his wing to see Penang, his home town,” Simon Hardy, a Boeing 777 senior pilot and instructor, said on “60 Minutes.”
“If you look very carefully, you can see it's actually a turn to the left, and then start a long turn to the right. And then [he does] another left turn. So I spent a long time thinking about what this could be, what technical reason is there for this, and, after two months, three months thinking about this, I finally got the answer: Someone was looking out the window.”
“It might be a long, emotional goodbye,” Hardy added. “Or a short, emotional goodbye to his home town.”

On two occasions, whoever was in control of the plane — and was probably the only one awake — tipped the craft to the left. The experts believe Zaharie, the plane's pilot, was taking a final look.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/14/mh370-experts-think-theyve-finally-solved-the-mystery-of-the-doomed-malaysia-airlines-flight/


Australia's ex PM says Malaysia believed pilot downed MH370
https://www.dw.com/en/mh370-australias-former-pm-says-malaysia-believed-pilot-downed-jet-in-murder-suicide/a-52427285

02/19/2020
February 19, 2020
Malaysian authorities thought "from very, very early on" that the MH370 jet that vanished in 2014 was crashed intentionally by its pilot, Australia's former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed.

Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has claimed that Malaysian authorities believe the MH370 flight, which went missing with 239 people on board, was downed by the pilot in a murder-suicide plot. 
The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines jet went missing on March 8, 2014, after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.

"My understanding from the very top level of the Malaysian government is that, from very, very early on here, they thought it was a murder-suicide by the pilot," Abbott, Australia's prime minister at the time the jet went missing, said in a show that will air in full later on Wednesday.
Australia played a large role in the 12,000-square-kilometer (4,600-square-mile) search in the Indian Ocean, the largest in aviation history, which came up empty.


LOL. You don’t like conspiracy theories but you included a source by Jeff Wise, who said in the documentary he thinks the Russians are involved.

It shouldn’t be a state secret that his wife left the day prior, yes? We don’t need an anonymous source to confirm “conjecture.” Is there reason she can’t confirm it? Should be be pretty straightforward—if it actually is.

I’m starting to think that one of the Chinese internet police found this thread by continually citing theory as fact.



Righto Captain Conspiracy.

Jeff Wise was right the first time and many experts who spent a lot of time investigating this incident agreed on some version of his original theory - Wise’s
Russian conspiracy theory (there is a reason he lost so much credibility when he defended it beyond reason) - as it does not hold up to scrutiny… But he did a great public service by highlighting how easy it would be for passengers to disrupt a flight by entering the electornic override controls through the unlocked carpeted hatch door entry in the front of business class.

Keep on believing those conspiracy theories - there are a million internet rabbit holes to get lost in ..,


I find it rich you think I’m a conspiracy theorist when I’m asking for a credible source. Any good journalist would expect as much. Again, we’re not talking about state secrets, when it might make sense to have a verified anonymous source.

But please carry on quoting “conspiracy theorists” when it serves you.


Not worth responding to except to say read both the final report by Australian authorities who led the two year search effort and the Malaysian police report …
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