how many overpaid jobs in DMV can be automated out to AI like ChatGPT?

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Anonymous wrote:Ha. I was just encouraging my son to consider becoming an electrician or plumber, focusing on those trade certifications first then picking up a advanced college degrees when he’s 40.

This was after a conversation with a plumber who is hired who was telling me about his multiple properties.

I wonder if this is the same plumber I recently had by: the man could not shut up about his multiple real estate developments. It definitely made the bill sting more.

Nothing wrong with trades as a career (my dad is a repairman; I kinda wish I was an electrician) but these older people with multiple properties largely have them because of the economy and property prices at the time they were entering the property ladder. And, if they own the business, a little bit of creativity at tax time

If AI can instruct people how to be their own lawyer, it can certainly instruct people on how to run a wire or install a pipe.

The hard part of plumbing and electrical work is not so much the how, it's actually physically doing the work correctly and understanding what's currently there before starting.

The casual, naive arrogance of the bolded above is one thing that I hate about this area. Based on people I know, lawyers who assume that they can do plumbing or electrical work with no experience tend to be great at turning small jobs into very big and expensive jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha. I was just encouraging my son to consider becoming an electrician or plumber, focusing on those trade certifications first then picking up a advanced college degrees when he’s 40.

This was after a conversation with a plumber who is hired who was telling me about his multiple properties.

I wonder if this is the same plumber I recently had by: the man could not shut up about his multiple real estate developments. It definitely made the bill sting more.

Nothing wrong with trades as a career (my dad is a repairman; I kinda wish I was an electrician) but these older people with multiple properties largely have them because of the economy and property prices at the time they were entering the property ladder. And, if they own the business, a little bit of creativity at tax time

If AI can instruct people how to be their own lawyer, it can certainly instruct people on how to run a wire or install a pipe.

The hard part of plumbing and electrical work is not so much the how, it's actually physically doing the work correctly and understanding what's currently there before starting.

The casual, naive arrogance of the bolded above is one thing that I hate about this area. Based on people I know, lawyers who assume that they can do plumbing or electrical work with no experience tend to be great at turning small jobs into very big and expensive jobs.

No reason a visual AI can’t do all of this. Plumbers will just be like those level 1 techs who have to have someone else on the phone instructing them the entire time they’re installing your office copier or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha. I was just encouraging my son to consider becoming an electrician or plumber, focusing on those trade certifications first then picking up a advanced college degrees when he’s 40.

This was after a conversation with a plumber who is hired who was telling me about his multiple properties.

I wonder if this is the same plumber I recently had by: the man could not shut up about his multiple real estate developments. It definitely made the bill sting more.

Nothing wrong with trades as a career (my dad is a repairman; I kinda wish I was an electrician) but these older people with multiple properties largely have them because of the economy and property prices at the time they were entering the property ladder. And, if they own the business, a little bit of creativity at tax time

If AI can instruct people how to be their own lawyer, it can certainly instruct people on how to run a wire or install a pipe.

The hard part of plumbing and electrical work is not so much the how, it's actually physically doing the work correctly and understanding what's currently there before starting.

The casual, naive arrogance of the bolded above is one thing that I hate about this area. Based on people I know, lawyers who assume that they can do plumbing or electrical work with no experience tend to be great at turning small jobs into very big and expensive jobs.

No reason a visual AI can’t do all of this. Plumbers will just be like those level 1 techs who have to have someone else on the phone instructing them the entire time they’re installing your office copier or whatever.

Plumbing needs physical strength, assembling materials and physical labor. Some people can’t do it. Anybody can be a lawyer with AI as long as they can type.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha. I was just encouraging my son to consider becoming an electrician or plumber, focusing on those trade certifications first then picking up a advanced college degrees when he’s 40.

This was after a conversation with a plumber who is hired who was telling me about his multiple properties.

I wonder if this is the same plumber I recently had by: the man could not shut up about his multiple real estate developments. It definitely made the bill sting more.

Nothing wrong with trades as a career (my dad is a repairman; I kinda wish I was an electrician) but these older people with multiple properties largely have them because of the economy and property prices at the time they were entering the property ladder. And, if they own the business, a little bit of creativity at tax time

If AI can instruct people how to be their own lawyer, it can certainly instruct people on how to run a wire or install a pipe.

The hard part of plumbing and electrical work is not so much the how, it's actually physically doing the work correctly and understanding what's currently there before starting.

The casual, naive arrogance of the bolded above is one thing that I hate about this area. Based on people I know, lawyers who assume that they can do plumbing or electrical work with no experience tend to be great at turning small jobs into very big and expensive jobs.

No reason a visual AI can’t do all of this. Plumbers will just be like those level 1 techs who have to have someone else on the phone instructing them the entire time they’re installing your office copier or whatever.

Plumbing needs physical strength, assembling materials and physical labor. Some people can’t do it. Anybody can be a lawyer with AI as long as they can type.

Whatever helps you sleep at night…

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Anonymous wrote:Ha, so many with hubris in this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/chatgpt-passes-mba-exam-wharton-professor-rcna67036

A computer can be taught to write answers within the sandbox of known information like a classroom? I mean that’s not the impressive result you seem to think it is. It’s more like a computer playing chess than like a computer doing white collar work.

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Anonymous wrote:The question isn’t actually whether the artificial intelligence can do someone’s job. The question is whether someone using artificial intelligence on a daily basis is now so productive if they can do their own job plus yours plus your neighbors. I am a college professor and so far I’ve used, chat GPT to quickly write emails to students, to improve the comments and feedback that I have already written on student papers, to get an outline for a PowerPoint, that I am putting together, and to generate some handouts along the lines of “ here are some possible topics for a term paper having to do with the European Union” etc. I am a bit afraid that it for university administration figures out the things that used to take us five or six hours now take us 20 minutes, that they will immediately increase our course loads and assign us three or four times as many students as we currently have. In such a situation, in the future, there will be fewer jobs. They will not be no jobs, but there might be a third or a fourth, as many as there used to be.

Meanwhile the admin staff, which has sucked the life out of Universities continues to be overpaid for what they do.

You don't know the beginning of it - there are big changes being made at universities that are going to waste more money. This, after the covid cuts - so dead weight removed, but dead weight added shortly thereafter. Admin staff make almost nothing, unless they have been there over a decade, but then schools generally try to push them out, when they age. Some universities get rid of their strongest employees, in favor of the "mission of the week". There needs to be overhauls at the top.

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Anonymous wrote:So many white collar jobs could be easily replaced by ChatGPT:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/chatgpt-ai-economy-automation-jobs/672767/

Law is a field that could be gutted easily by AI. In fact, the first AI defended case is coming soon:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ai-powered-robot-lawyer-takes-its-first-court-case/

It's only a matter of time until tons of grossly overpaid legal work is automated out. Same for so many lobbyists, consultants, sales, heck tons and tons of programming work. Is the DMV going to survive 20 years from now? So many people in this area have zero skills in fields that are harder to automate like the trades. Tons of people get vastly overpaid for white collar work that could easily be automated out with emerging AI. It's only a matter of time.

Lawyers add some value.

But DMV employees? The vast majority of frontline govertment workers?

Zero.

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Anonymous wrote:AI judges would be less biased…

+1!

And nothing would have to be done to tailor an argument or approach with an AI judge.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have a lot of lawsuit filed against AI companies, like self driving car accident by computer hackers.
This will keep lawyers busy.

AI lawyers will be cheaper to hire for the lawsuits.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have a lot of lawsuit filed against AI companies, like self driving car accident by computer hackers.
This will keep lawyers busy.

AI lawyers will be cheaper to hire for the lawsuits.

Sigh. I don’t know why you so badly need to believe AI lawyers will actually come to be, but you’re wrong. As an absolute first issue? This is practicing law without a license. Second, law is much harder than driving a car and that turned out to be a trillion dollar flop.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha. I was just encouraging my son to consider becoming an electrician or plumber, focusing on those trade certifications first then picking up a advanced college degrees when he’s 40.

This was after a conversation with a plumber who is hired who was telling me about his multiple properties.

I wonder if this is the same plumber I recently had by: the man could not shut up about his multiple real estate developments. It definitely made the bill sting more.

Nothing wrong with trades as a career (my dad is a repairman; I kinda wish I was an electrician) but these older people with multiple properties largely have them because of the economy and property prices at the time they were entering the property ladder. And, if they own the business, a little bit of creativity at tax time

If AI can instruct people how to be their own lawyer, it can certainly instruct people on how to run a wire or install a pipe.

I’m not a plumber. My job can def be taken by AI. Plumbing can’t until robots do it. It’s just common sense.
The hard part of plumbing and electrical work is not so much the how, it's actually physically doing the work correctly and understanding what's currently there before starting.

The casual, naive arrogance of the bolded above is one thing that I hate about this area. Based on people I know, lawyers who assume that they can do plumbing or electrical work with no experience tend to be great at turning small jobs into very big and expensive jobs.

No reason a visual AI can’t do all of this. Plumbers will just be like those level 1 techs who have to have someone else on the phone instructing them the entire time they’re installing your office copier or whatever.

Plumbing needs physical strength, assembling materials and physical labor. Some people can’t do it. Anybody can be a lawyer with AI as long as they can type.

Whatever helps you sleep at night…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ha, so many with hubris in this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/chatgpt-passes-mba-exam-wharton-professor-rcna67036

A computer can be taught to write answers within the sandbox of known information like a classroom? I mean that’s not the impressive result you seem to think it is. It’s more like a computer playing chess than like a computer doing white collar work.

When the sandbox is everything available online, the answers get more impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha, so many with hubris in this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/chatgpt-passes-mba-exam-wharton-professor-rcna67036

A computer can be taught to write answers within the sandbox of known information like a classroom? I mean that’s not the impressive result you seem to think it is. It’s more like a computer playing chess than like a computer doing white collar work.

Wut?

AI would learn from all of the collective information on the internet. They’re also develop AI to learn from all new published research, so it will always have more up to date knowledge than any human and never forget anything. It would make mistakes and correct them over time, learning as it goes.

You just sound upset your overpaid white collar job that consists of BS and/or micromanaging people while producing nothing of value can now probably be automated.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha. I was just encouraging my son to consider becoming an electrician or plumber, focusing on those trade certifications first then picking up a advanced college degrees when he’s 40.

This was after a conversation with a plumber who is hired who was telling me about his multiple properties.

I wonder if this is the same plumber I recently had by: the man could not shut up about his multiple real estate developments. It definitely made the bill sting more.

Nothing wrong with trades as a career (my dad is a repairman; I kinda wish I was an electrician) but these older people with multiple properties largely have them because of the economy and property prices at the time they were entering the property ladder. And, if they own the business, a little bit of creativity at tax time

If AI can instruct people how to be their own lawyer, it can certainly instruct people on how to run a wire or install a pipe.

The hard part of plumbing and electrical work is not so much the how, it's actually physically doing the work correctly and understanding what's currently there before starting.

The casual, naive arrogance of the bolded above is one thing that I hate about this area. Based on people I know, lawyers who assume that they can do plumbing or electrical work with no experience tend to be great at turning small jobs into very big and expensive jobs.

No reason a visual AI can’t do all of this. Plumbers will just be like those level 1 techs who have to have someone else on the phone instructing them the entire time they’re installing your office copier or whatever.

Plumbing needs physical strength, assembling materials and physical labor. Some people can’t do it. Anybody can be a lawyer with AI as long as they can type.

Whatever helps you sleep at night…

Np. Just for an experiment, go disconnect your toilet from the water supply, then reassemble it. Lol, good luck. I've met many people who can't twist a washer onto a bolt without partially stripping it, now do that upside down reaching around the underneath of the toilet. There will nevet be a robot AI that will come to your house to do that for you more cheaply than a person. And if you can't figure it out by watching youtube videos, the addition of an AI assistant won't help.