18 yr old and registering for Selective Service

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It came up for my teenage son when he applied for an internship with a federal agency. He wasn't 18 yet, but it sounds like if he was, the people doing his security check would have turned him in.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Sexism and historical inertia. It should be required for everyone IMO.

When the military can protect women about harassment and assault, and put their safety above the institution of the military, then we can talk about "all should be required."

Men are harassed and assaulted as well and they serve. Very few women have the strength and stamina for infantry and zero chance they can qualify for special forces, but they can do admin work for sure.

Women can and do pass infantry qualifications all the time and special forces is a very small percentage the military. Regardless, most servicemen are neither infantry nor special forces

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Anonymous wrote:I think that any company that performs work for the Federal government, which is the vast majority of US companies, have a question on their job application asking if the applicant registered for the selective service.

Where'd you get that?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

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Anonymous wrote:Did your sons register for Selective Service when they turned 18? Nobody seems to talk about this anymore.

My 18 yr old son doesn't seem to think it's a big deal yet from what I've seen online, it's still required....

No. We did not know about it and my kid did not register. We also filled out FAFSA and CSS (though we are not eligible for any need based money) and the university gave my son a lot of merit aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

Matriarchy says only dumbies go to war.

You think the matriarchy made these rules in the first place or has the power to change them now? What are you smoking?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

In what way are we not treating men and women equally? We are certainly equal under the law and women have fought and won the ability to serve in any position in the military. You can't have it both ways. You can't have equality only when it's convenient to you. You think I want my son to go die in the pace of your daughter? Sorry, but no. I love him just as much as you love your child. So, yes, I think both should be equally drafted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did your sons register for Selective Service when they turned 18? Nobody seems to talk about this anymore.

My 18 yr old son doesn't seem to think it's a big deal yet from what I've seen online, it's still required....

No. We did not know about it and my kid did not register. We also filled out FAFSA and CSS (though we are not eligible for any need based money) and the university gave my son a lot of merit aid.

Failure to register is a felony punishable with a fine of up to $250k and 5 years in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

In what way are we not treating men and women equally? We are certainly equal under the law and women have fought and won the ability to serve in any position in the military. You can't have it both ways. You can't have equality only when it's convenient to you. You think I want my son to go die in the pace of your daughter? Sorry, but no. I love him just as much as you love your child. So, yes, I think both should be equally drafted.

People don’t want their daughters to make less money, get fewer promotions, be many times more likely to be raped or suffer from domestic violence, but they do do because life isn’t fair. I don’t want my daughters to die from pregnancy complications because a group comprised mostly of men don’t really understand how pregnancy works and place unreasonable restrictions on abortion, but that’s how things are in a rising number of states. I don’t want your son to go to war or die. I hope he lives a happy, healthy, successful, long life. But I’m still not agitating for my daughters to have to register for the draft — which they aren’t currently required to, specifically because men made those rules.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

In what way are we not treating men and women equally? We are certainly equal under the law and women have fought and won the ability to serve in any position in the military. You can't have it both ways. You can't have equality only when it's convenient to you. You think I want my son to go die in the pace of your daughter? Sorry, but no. I love him just as much as you love your child. So, yes, I think both should be equally drafted.

People don’t want their daughters to make less money, get fewer promotions, be many times more likely to be raped or suffer from domestic violence, but they do do because life isn’t fair. I don’t want my daughters to die from pregnancy complications because a group comprised mostly of men don’t really understand how pregnancy works and place unreasonable restrictions on abortion, but that’s how things are in a rising number of states. I don’t want your son to go to war or die. I hope he lives a happy, healthy, successful, long life. But I’m still not agitating for my daughters to have to register for the draft — which they aren’t currently required to, specifically because men made those rules.

That's a lot of hyperbole. You haven't mentioned how they are not equal under the law as a result of policy. Women also vote for the laws that are endangering them (Dobbs) but they have a right to vote. I think it's extremely hypocritical of any woman to expect equality in every aspect of our lives, as long as it's not too inconvenient or dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

In what way are we not treating men and women equally? We are certainly equal under the law and women have fought and won the ability to serve in any position in the military. You can't have it both ways. You can't have equality only when it's convenient to you. You think I want my son to go die in the pace of your daughter? Sorry, but no. I love him just as much as you love your child. So, yes, I think both should be equally drafted.

People don’t want their daughters to make less money, get fewer promotions, be many times more likely to be raped or suffer from domestic violence, but they do do because life isn’t fair. I don’t want my daughters to die from pregnancy complications because a group comprised mostly of men don’t really understand how pregnancy works and place unreasonable restrictions on abortion, but that’s how things are in a rising number of states. I don’t want your son to go to war or die. I hope he lives a happy, healthy, successful, long life. But I’m still not agitating for my daughters to have to register for the draft — which they aren’t currently required to, specifically because men made those rules.

That's a lot of hyperbole. You haven't mentioned how they are not equal under the law as a result of policy. Women also vote for the laws that are endangering them (Dobbs) but they have a right to vote. I think it's extremely hypocritical of any woman to expect equality in every aspect of our lives, as long as it's not too inconvenient or dangerous.

Dobbs didn’t come from women’s or even men’s votes. Four out of the five justices who gave us Dobbs were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote. In the recent midterms voters largely repudiated Dobbs. The majority of Americans don’t support it.

If we were to draft women and men equally, what about minor children who have both parents drafted? What about women who are pregnant or breastfeeding?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

In what way are we not treating men and women equally? We are certainly equal under the law and women have fought and won the ability to serve in any position in the military. You can't have it both ways. You can't have equality only when it's convenient to you. You think I want my son to go die in the pace of your daughter? Sorry, but no. I love him just as much as you love your child. So, yes, I think both should be equally drafted.

People don’t want their daughters to make less money, get fewer promotions, be many times more likely to be raped or suffer from domestic violence, but they do do because life isn’t fair. I don’t want my daughters to die from pregnancy complications because a group comprised mostly of men don’t really understand how pregnancy works and place unreasonable restrictions on abortion, but that’s how things are in a rising number of states. I don’t want your son to go to war or die. I hope he lives a happy, healthy, successful, long life. But I’m still not agitating for my daughters to have to register for the draft — which they aren’t currently required to, specifically because men made those rules.

That's a lot of hyperbole. You haven't mentioned how they are not equal under the law as a result of policy. Women also vote for the laws that are endangering them (Dobbs) but they have a right to vote. I think it's extremely hypocritical of any woman to expect equality in every aspect of our lives, as long as it's not too inconvenient or dangerous.

Dobbs didn’t come from women’s or even men’s votes. Four out of the five justices who gave us Dobbs were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote. In the recent midterms voters largely repudiated Dobbs. The majority of Americans don’t support it.

If we were to draft women and men equally, what about minor children who have both parents drafted? What about women who are pregnant or breastfeeding?

I think we both know that there are both men and women who support the Dobbs decision and vote based on this single issue.

For your second question, accommodations will need to be made for parents/breastfeeding mothers just like accommodations are made today for men who have disabilities or injuries. We can also make sure that their deployments are staggered so they are not both gone at the same time.

What about women who are not married or pregnant, in perfect health, and can certainly serve? Do you not think there are military families today where both parents serve? I know several. It's not so black and white.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

Which war was started by women?