18 yr old and registering for Selective Service

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Anonymous wrote:Until the Equal Rights Amendment is enacted, women shouldn’t have to register for the draft. If our government doesn’t recognize us as equal, why should we be forced to fight and possibly die for our country?

WTF are you talking about? How are women not equal to men under the law?

We don't have the right to choose medical procedures our doctors deem necessary; can you name a procedure men need to save their lives that they can't get because men created a law to stop that procedure?

Sorry but bull crap. Women created that law too. As much as I agree that men have definitely drafted and passed majority of the laws in this country, including the selective service one, women are just as much to blame for the recent Dobbs decision as men. Women have as much voting power in this country as men do. Vote them out and abortion will be legal everywhere again. I see so many women crying murder when it comes to this issue and voting to have the rights stripped away from them.

Anything else? I said women are equal under the law and they are. They need to serve in case of a draft. Period.

Voters are not responsible for Dobbs. Voters have selected the Democratic candidate for president in 7 of the last 8 elections, but the candidate who lost the popular vote went on to win the electoral college vote in 2000 and 2016. Voters selected Al Gore to be appointing SC justices, but we got George W. Bush’s first term instead, and he appointed Justice Alito during that term. Voters selected Hillary Clinton in 2016, but we got Donald Trump instead, and he appointed Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barret. Four of the current 9 SC justices were appointed against the will of the people. Those same 4 are 4/5 of the justices who signed on for the Dobbs decision. Dobbs does not represent the will of the people at all. That’s why there was no red wave in the recent midterms.

Don’t you dare blame Dobbs on women or voters in general. Place the blame squarely where it belongs: extreme right wingers.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

Selective Service is 18-25. Do you really think there are that many couples with children on DCUM where BOTH parents are under the age of 26?

Men who father children in their teens and 20s are more likely to join the military than childless men, and they’re unlikely to be having those babies with significantly older women. If we draft their female partners, those families have a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m truly stunned by the ignorance in this thread. How in the hell could you not know that your boys have to register? There is just no excuse for that kind of ignorance. Kinda hope some of you get fined.

+1 This is blowing my mind. I’ve known about this forever and I didn’t have any brothers and my son is only 12.

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Anonymous wrote:Until the Equal Rights Amendment is enacted, women shouldn’t have to register for the draft. If our government doesn’t recognize us as equal, why should we be forced to fight and possibly die for our country?

WTF are you talking about? How are women not equal to men under the law?

We don't have the right to choose medical procedures our doctors deem necessary; can you name a procedure men need to save their lives that they can't get because men created a law to stop that procedure?

Sorry but bull crap. Women created that law too. As much as I agree that men have definitely drafted and passed majority of the laws in this country, including the selective service one, women are just as much to blame for the recent Dobbs decision as men. Women have as much voting power in this country as men do. Vote them out and abortion will be legal everywhere again. I see so many women crying murder when it comes to this issue and voting to have the rights stripped away from them.

Anything else? I said women are equal under the law and they are. They need to serve in case of a draft. Period.

I think women should be sedated just like men but…

I don’t care who created the law it makes women not equal to have laws making medical decisions… can u name a law where men are denied medical intervention? NO YOU CANT.

Women are not paid equal.

Women are killed when they get pregnant and men are mad about it, more so than dying by child birth. Do men get murdered over unwanted pregnancy?

Women are murdered when they try to leave. Do women murder men during divorce ?

Men rape women and then get 18 months. Who created that law?

Women are not living in an equal world.

Wait what????

I’m trying to have a logical discussion but you’re just spewing nonsense. No, men don’t die in pregnancy and childbirth because…..they can’t get pregnant. I think if women want to have equality that we have been fighting for it can’t be selective equality. It needs to be all or nothing. Otherwise you are saying you’re ok with men still deciding for you. You’re ok with men making the laws that impact you with absolutely zero input from you. I know being drafted would be hard, but guess what??? It’s hard for men too. My son had nothing to do with some outdated laws, but you are perfectly willing to punish him for it. If that’s not sexist, I don’t know what is.

The fact that only people with female reproductive systems can get pregnant is the exact reason why the Dobbs decision is discriminatory toward women. Women are disproportionately affected by it. Women and men do not and can not benefit or suffer equally under Dobbs.

The same is true for the Selective Service. Men are disproportionately harmed by it.

Changing people’s minds, our culture, laws, power structures — none of that has been changed through “all or nothing” campaigns. You must have a specific, actionable goal that you’re working towards. Women weren’t granted the right to own property, have custody of their children, vote, join the military, etc., all at once. Change is incremental. As an attorney and activist, RBG made progress towards women being treated equally under the law by arguing a case for equal treatment for a man because he was being discriminated against due to his sex.

I’ll fight to overturn Dobbs. You find for equality in the Selective Service. If we are successful, everybody wins.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

Selective Service is 18-25. Do you really think there are that many couples with children on DCUM where BOTH parents are under the age of 26?

Men who father children in their teens and 20s are more likely to join the military than childless men, and they’re unlikely to be having those babies with significantly older women. If we draft their female partners, those families have a problem.

But not male partners??? I am always amazed at all of you self-proclaimed feminists who want men to be raising children on the same level as you, be involved, etc. and then the moment s hits the fan it's "women have to stay home with the children." Why can't women go instead of men? I'm sure exceptions will/can be made where there are two small children in the household to make sure at least one parent is not deployed at the same time, but you shouldn't get a pass because you have a uterus.

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Anonymous wrote:Until the Equal Rights Amendment is enacted, women shouldn’t have to register for the draft. If our government doesn’t recognize us as equal, why should we be forced to fight and possibly die for our country?

WTF are you talking about? How are women not equal to men under the law?

We don't have the right to choose medical procedures our doctors deem necessary; can you name a procedure men need to save their lives that they can't get because men created a law to stop that procedure?

Sorry but bull crap. Women created that law too. As much as I agree that men have definitely drafted and passed majority of the laws in this country, including the selective service one, women are just as much to blame for the recent Dobbs decision as men. Women have as much voting power in this country as men do. Vote them out and abortion will be legal everywhere again. I see so many women crying murder when it comes to this issue and voting to have the rights stripped away from them.

Anything else? I said women are equal under the law and they are. They need to serve in case of a draft. Period.

I think women should be sedated just like men but…

I don’t care who created the law it makes women not equal to have laws making medical decisions… can u name a law where men are denied medical intervention? NO YOU CANT.

Women are not paid equal.

Women are killed when they get pregnant and men are mad about it, more so than dying by child birth. Do men get murdered over unwanted pregnancy?

Women are murdered when they try to leave. Do women murder men during divorce ?

Men rape women and then get 18 months. Who created that law?

Women are not living in an equal world.

Wait what????

I’m trying to have a logical discussion but you’re just spewing nonsense. No, men don’t die in pregnancy and childbirth because…..they can’t get pregnant. I think if women want to have equality that we have been fighting for it can’t be selective equality. It needs to be all or nothing. Otherwise you are saying you’re ok with men still deciding for you. You’re ok with men making the laws that impact you with absolutely zero input from you. I know being drafted would be hard, but guess what??? It’s hard for men too. My son had nothing to do with some outdated laws, but you are perfectly willing to punish him for it. If that’s not sexist, I don’t know what is.

The fact that only people with female reproductive systems can get pregnant is the exact reason why the Dobbs decision is discriminatory toward women. Women are disproportionately affected by it. Women and men do not and can not benefit or suffer equally under Dobbs.

The same is true for the Selective Service. Men are disproportionately harmed by it.

Changing people’s minds, our culture, laws, power structures — none of that has been changed through “all or nothing” campaigns. You must have a specific, actionable goal that you’re working towards. Women weren’t granted the right to own property, have custody of their children, vote, join the military, etc., all at once. Change is incremental. As an attorney and activist, RBG made progress towards women being treated equally under the law by arguing a case for equal treatment for a man because he was being discriminated against due to his sex.

I’ll fight to overturn Dobbs. You find for equality in the Selective Service. If we are successful, everybody wins.

I'm not even arguing that women are disproportionally affected by the Dobbs decision. Of course, we are. But not everything we do in society should be based on one asinine law. I will vote again and again to have safe, legal and affordable aborion for women. The rest I agree with. Change comes in incremental ways and perhaps just thinking about the outdated selective service laws is necessary at this stage.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

Selective Service is 18-25. Do you really think there are that many couples with children on DCUM where BOTH parents are under the age of 26?

Men who father children in their teens and 20s are more likely to join the military than childless men, and they’re unlikely to be having those babies with significantly older women. If we draft their female partners, those families have a problem.

But not male partners??? I am always amazed at all of you self-proclaimed feminists who want men to be raising children on the same level as you, be involved, etc. and then the moment s hits the fan it's "women have to stay home with the children." Why can't women go instead of men? I'm sure exceptions will/can be made where there are two small children in the household to make sure at least one parent is not deployed at the same time, but you shouldn't get a pass because you have a uterus.

This.

One has to go, it's not necessarily the man.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

Selective Service is 18-25. Do you really think there are that many couples with children on DCUM where BOTH parents are under the age of 26?

Men who father children in their teens and 20s are more likely to join the military than childless men, and they’re unlikely to be having those babies with significantly older women. If we draft their female partners, those families have a problem.

But not male partners??? I am always amazed at all of you self-proclaimed feminists who want men to be raising children on the same level as you, be involved, etc. and then the moment s hits the fan it's "women have to stay home with the children." Why can't women go instead of men? I'm sure exceptions will/can be made where there are two small children in the household to make sure at least one parent is not deployed at the same time, but you shouldn't get a pass because you have a uterus.

This.

One has to go, it's not necessarily the man.

Duh. Of course it doesn’t have to be the man. But if a 19 year old male impregnates a 17 year old female, who do you think is more likely to join the military so they can buy diapers or pay for child care? You can’t seriously be arguing that just as many women are joining the military as men?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

Selective Service is 18-25. Do you really think there are that many couples with children on DCUM where BOTH parents are under the age of 26?

Men who father children in their teens and 20s are more likely to join the military than childless men, and they’re unlikely to be having those babies with significantly older women. If we draft their female partners, those families have a problem.

But not male partners??? I am always amazed at all of you self-proclaimed feminists who want men to be raising children on the same level as you, be involved, etc. and then the moment s hits the fan it's "women have to stay home with the children." Why can't women go instead of men? I'm sure exceptions will/can be made where there are two small children in the household to make sure at least one parent is not deployed at the same time, but you shouldn't get a pass because you have a uterus.

This.

One has to go, it's not necessarily the man.

Duh. Of course it doesn’t have to be the man. But if a 19 year old male impregnates a 17 year old female, who do you think is more likely to join the military so they can buy diapers or pay for child care? You can’t seriously be arguing that just as many women are joining the military as men?

No one is talking about voluntarily joining the military here. The topic at hand is the draft where neither parent/person wants to join but are compelled by the government to serve. In that case it should be both men and women.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

One time when we don't need to object

Ugh, you do realize women serve honorably and with valor currently - to include frontline combat positions in the next war?

NP, and sure. But from a selfish perspective, I'd rather my daughter not be compelled. If she chooses to serve, great.

I'd rather my son not be compelled either. I'd go in his place any day. But fair is fair. As long as we have the possibility of the draft in this country, it should be equal for men and women.

But we don’t treat men and women equally in this country, so you can’t make it “fair.” Also, drafting both men and women would raise a lot of issues for the draftees who have minor children. What are we going to do with children when both parents are drafted to serve at the same time? How expensive will it be to put procedures in place so this doesn’t happen?

Selective Service is 18-25. Do you really think there are that many couples with children on DCUM where BOTH parents are under the age of 26?

Men who father children in their teens and 20s are more likely to join the military than childless men, and they’re unlikely to be having those babies with significantly older women. If we draft their female partners, those families have a problem.

But not male partners??? I am always amazed at all of you self-proclaimed feminists who want men to be raising children on the same level as you, be involved, etc. and then the moment s hits the fan it's "women have to stay home with the children." Why can't women go instead of men? I'm sure exceptions will/can be made where there are two small children in the household to make sure at least one parent is not deployed at the same time, but you shouldn't get a pass because you have a uterus.

This.

One has to go, it's not necessarily the man.

Duh. Of course it doesn’t have to be the man. But if a 19 year old male impregnates a 17 year old female, who do you think is more likely to join the military so they can buy diapers or pay for child care? You can’t seriously be arguing that just as many women are joining the military as men?

No one is talking about voluntarily joining the military here. The topic at hand is the draft where neither parent/person wants to join but are compelled by the government to serve. In that case it should be both men and women.

Sorry, I thought you were replying to the specific scenario above. Young man enlists to support child and then there’s a draft and his child’s mother also has to serve.

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Anonymous wrote:Until the Equal Rights Amendment is enacted, women shouldn’t have to register for the draft. If our government doesn’t recognize us as equal, why should we be forced to fight and possibly die for our country?

WTF are you talking about? How are women not equal to men under the law?

We don't have the right to choose medical procedures our doctors deem necessary; can you name a procedure men need to save their lives that they can't get because men created a law to stop that procedure?

Sorry but bull crap. Women created that law too. As much as I agree that men have definitely drafted and passed majority of the laws in this country, including the selective service one, women are just as much to blame for the recent Dobbs decision as men. Women have as much voting power in this country as men do. Vote them out and abortion will be legal everywhere again. I see so many women crying murder when it comes to this issue and voting to have the rights stripped away from them.

Anything else? I said women are equal under the law and they are. They need to serve in case of a draft. Period.

Voters are not responsible for Dobbs. Voters have selected the Democratic candidate for president in 7 of the last 8 elections, but the candidate who lost the popular vote went on to win the electoral college vote in 2000 and 2016. Voters selected Al Gore to be appointing SC justices, but we got George W. Bush’s first term instead, and he appointed Justice Alito during that term. Voters selected Hillary Clinton in 2016, but we got Donald Trump instead, and he appointed Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barret. Four of the current 9 SC justices were appointed against the will of the people. Those same 4 are 4/5 of the justices who signed on for the Dobbs decision. Dobbs does not represent the will of the people at all. That’s why there was no red wave in the recent midterms.

Don’t you dare blame Dobbs on women or voters in general. Place the blame squarely where it belongs: extreme right wingers.

Pardon me, that should have been 4 out 6 justices, not 4 out of 5.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

Patriarchy thinks they are too weak

I don't hear the girls complaining about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't girls have to do it?

LMFGTFY. Actually, no, DIY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What Happens If You Do Not Register for Selective Service. If you are required to register and you do not, you will not be eligible for state-based student aid in many states, federal job training, or a federal job. You may be prosecuted and face a fine of up to $250,000 and jail time of up to five years.Nov 10, 2022

Felony?

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Anonymous wrote:All males have to register. Including trans women. Trans men do not register. Not that they're going to have transgender women on the front lines but I could imagine them being office workers.

Amazing how the Federal government knows what a woman is in some contexts but not others.