Harry and Meghan on Netflix episodes for five and six positivity and friendly comments only please

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That family has always been dysfunctional
Queen came across as cold even to Charles when he was young. Charles always was awkward, nerdy boring type of a man
Perhaps he realized Camilla wouldn’t fit the royal mold and pleased his parents by marrying Diana and producing BOYS

Obviously Harry is protective about his kids, obviously everything you read in the press is not true, obviously they learned from the mistake of letting Diana be popular
Obviously Harry did not step down without very strong reasons to do so
I am not surprised that they feel compelled to have to answer for their actions

Everything with the royal family is propaganda
He didn’t really say anything really bad about his family. There have been worse tell alls by Diana, Fergie and the rest

Obviously any bad press about Meghan protects Andrew and the rest. Charles has built a massive fortune and cannot be investigated for embezzlement

The whole thing is a smokescreen

Unfortunately the royal family missed an opportunity to modernize itself

What I do not know is how the British public bought into this wicked witch from the west story

What I got from it is that the British public still is very racist and only needed a nudge to come out guns blazing against the Black uppity actress divorcee...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

Who would know though and go to the tabloids?

[Anonymous]

Will chose a woman with a very stable and loving family that clearly enjoys each other and frequently get together and are involved in one another lives. He got exactly what he missed from his own upbringing and often says it is part of what attracted him to Kate, her family.

Harry went the dysfunctional route. He married a woman with a family has nutso as his own and a divorce/split upbringing with a strong MIL. He seems to be repeating his own family in some ways.

I definitely think Harry was always more vulnerable than William. He was younger when his parents divorced and his mother died. He really struggled for many years after. He was ripe for manipulation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The BRF just doesn’t know how to deal with younger siblings who won’t inherit the title. Look at Margaret, Andrew, Harry. All of the focus is on those who will wear the Crown. The others aren’t allowed to have real jobs, live independently and earn their own money, or choose their own path due to how it would reflect on The Crown. What an awful way to live. Like birds in a gilded cage.

I can understand why Harry and Megan left.

Yes. I’m much more sympathetic to Harry. But it’s like meghan entered the chat, expected it to be all about her and all positive, and when it was neither of things she was like “this won’t work for me.” And is now making a career of twisting the narrative over why it didn’t work, instead of the plain truth: it’s not about her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is hot.

And they don’t want to live quiet, private lives as normal people as their detractors like to repeat. They want to be philanthropists with scheduled on-camera engagements without being hounded by the media all day, every day. Lots of rich people live like that, and it’s what Diana was trying to do.

I can understand why they left. It's just sad that they can't find another way to earn money other than criticizing his family.

They dont need to though. He got 14 million from Diana, $10 from the Queen mother, she had income prior to being his wife. I would assume their main need for money is security. They are in the public eye whether they want to be or not. They just want to control it. Many celebrities do the same thing but they are famous (in many peoples mind) because they did something not because of who their parents/family are but that is plainly not true as 75% or more of the current celebrities are related to other celebrities or people within the industry.

Their personal wealth was/is chump change for the social circles they run in. Round the clock security, flying private, mansion in SoCal, vacations around the world where you can be assured of privacy. None of these things come cheap. In Harry's world they are regular rich, not super rich. My own opinion is that Charles should have footed the bill so they could have security for a couple of years across the pond. Give them time to have kids, adjust to parenthood, adjust to royal life a little more quietly. I absolutely believe them that they were receiving death threats and felt unsafe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found the documentary interesting and watched it twice just to take everything in.

It really drove home to me that Meghan is unapologetically American in every way (and has a VERY strong millenial mindset). I think they both underestimated how hard it would be for her to fit into British culture, follow the rules set forth by the press and protocol offices in the royal family, and then fit into the larger royal family (not just the "principals" but the much larger family she has to deal with).

It also made me realize how much money had to do with their exit. When Meghan got moved into that tiny cottage after the wedding it must have been a stark realization that she was among the "poor" relations. Her American striver attitude kicked in and said, hey, how can we make some money here and pay for a nicer lifestyle (which as a millennial she needs to curate and is used to posting about constantly).

I agree with all of this. SO millennial.

+1 yes. In their older years, I think many millenials will realize at what cost.

This is so funny. I can see that she seems like a Millennial but she's not, she's at the tail end of Gen X or the in-between generation between Gen X and Millennial. She's precocious lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Sure, you can do that, and establish the timeline. But that just shows correlation, not causation. We don't know what else happened during that time frame.

Not saying that Will is not above the pettiness. That family has shown plenty of that already.

Just saying that we only have one side of the story here. Harry is known for some flying off the handle behavior. Do I think he's blameless in the rift between brothers? LOL not by a long shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

Who would know though and go to the tabloids?

Literally anyone who was with them on the Australia trip could have witnessed and leaked the bad behavior, if it was true. I imagine those royal tours have a press pool over the whole tour....its not out of the realm of possibility for rumors to start circling about her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the documentary interesting and watched it twice just to take everything in.

It really drove home to me that Meghan is unapologetically American in every way (and has a VERY strong millenial mindset). I think they both underestimated how hard it would be for her to fit into British culture, follow the rules set forth by the press and protocol offices in the royal family, and then fit into the larger royal family (not just the "principals" but the much larger family she has to deal with).

It also made me realize how much money had to do with their exit. When Meghan got moved into that tiny cottage after the wedding it must have been a stark realization that she was among the "poor" relations. Her American striver attitude kicked in and said, hey, how can we make some money here and pay for a nicer lifestyle (which as a millennial she needs to curate and is used to posting about constantly).

I agree with your 2nd paragraph, and then in the third you just invent motivations with zero proof. There was none of that in the documentary or in any reputable news source. You have their words, and pictures and videos — all of which show a happy couple in a tiny cottage. It’s ok if you don’t like her, but why do you feel the need to invent these motivations (that conveniently make her less likable) with zero proof?

+1. Nobody complained about the cottage, except maybe Oprah. They complained about being hounded by the press and Meghan being cut off from access to friends, family, and mental health care. Tyler Perry is right, that’s abusive.

They had a whole segment, with photos, "complaining" about the size of the cottage. Look it up. It is super tiny (like only 1300 sq. ft.). I wouldn't want to live there either!

That was just a temporary setup while their official digs were being renovated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

Who would know though and go to the tabloids?

Literally anyone who was with them on the Australia trip could have witnessed and leaked the bad behavior, if it was true. I imagine those royal tours have a press pool over the whole tour....its not out of the realm of possibility for rumors to start circling about her.

I'm curious to know about the ongoing issues they've seemed to have with staff. Was that addressed?

[Anonymous]

I thought it was well done but I can’t believe people who are so focused on privacy would bring their children into this. That doesn’t seem very private to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BRF just doesn’t know how to deal with younger siblings who won’t inherit the title. Look at Margaret, Andrew, Harry. All of the focus is on those who will wear the Crown. The others aren’t allowed to have real jobs, live independently and earn their own money, or choose their own path due to how it would reflect on The Crown. What an awful way to live. Like birds in a gilded cage.

I can understand why Harry and Megan left.

Yes. I’m much more sympathetic to Harry. But it’s like meghan entered the chat, expected it to be all about her and all positive, and when it was neither of things she was like “this won’t work for me.” And is now making a career of twisting the narrative over why it didn’t work, instead of the plain truth: it’s not about her.

She is very self-centered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harry is hot.

And they don’t want to live quiet, private lives as normal people as their detractors like to repeat. They want to be philanthropists with scheduled on-camera engagements without being hounded by the media all day, every day. Lots of rich people live like that, and it’s what Diana was trying to do.

I can understand why they left. It's just sad that they can't find another way to earn money other than criticizing his family.

They dont need to though. He got 14 million from Diana, $10 from the Queen mother, she had income prior to being his wife. I would assume their main need for money is security. They are in the public eye whether they want to be or not. They just want to control it. Many celebrities do the same thing but they are famous (in many peoples mind) because they did something not because of who their parents/family are but that is plainly not true as 75% or more of the current celebrities are related to other celebrities or people within the industry.

Their personal wealth was/is chump change for the social circles they run in. Round the clock security, flying private, mansion in SoCal, vacations around the world where you can be assured of privacy. None of these things come cheap. In Harry's world they are regular rich, not super rich. My own opinion is that Charles should have footed the bill so they could have security for a couple of years across the pond. Give them time to have kids, adjust to parenthood, adjust to royal life a little more quietly. I absolutely believe them that they were receiving death threats and felt unsafe.

The people in their social circles made their vast fortunes by being exceptional at what they do. I’m reasonably confident Tyler Perry’s dad is not footing his security bills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was well done but I can’t believe people who are so focused on privacy would bring their children into this. That doesn’t seem very private to me.

More importantly, safety. What is remotely safe about putting your children out there for public consumption?