Sister on and off drugs at college

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I have not seen a drug addict actually better their life. Either they have died or they have wrecked the lives of others. Hope that your family has a better outcome.

I would like to introduce you to Brian Cuban, yes brother of Mark Cuban, google him, an amazing story and also my kid who is in recovery as well. I am sure you know some but they haven't let you know because you are so closed minded and perfect.

Your kid is in recovery and I wish him and you the best. Life is longer than this period of recovery. Sooner or later, an addict will go back to using. Our family member has gone through recovery and detox 15 times. He is clean and then he is using. A ticking time bomb that has cost the familu heavily. What can you do? You cannot watch them every single minute. It is a disease and it is the brain chemistry that is forever altered. They are tortured souls who will torture the family also.

Not close minded, but very clear-eyed about what we are dealing with.

DP. I'm sorry about your family member and you're correct it's a disease. But you're absolutely wrong that it's incurable. We know a guy who was a drug kingpin 20 years ago and did time for it. He was also a major addict. He's now a family man and owns a small business. He works AA and sponsors other people.

Hmm

Which is the outlier?

Tons of people succeed with AA and other programs. You're misinformed.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

Talk therapy addresses the underlying causes of addiction. Including for depression or trauma or anxiety or low self-esteem or grief. If you think it's useless for addiction, you must think it's useless for anything.

It’s good for mildly lost souls who need direction.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy

Some addiction therapists are trained to offer CBT and DBT. You really know nothing about therapy except perhaps for your interactions with your own trauma therapist (who, btw, may know nothing about CBT or DBT). You need to sit down.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

Talk therapy addresses the underlying causes of addiction. Including for depression or trauma or anxiety or low self-esteem or grief. If you think it's useless for addiction, you must think it's useless for anything.

It’s good for mildly lost souls who need direction.

This is such a weird proxy fight over what therapy means and/or should be. Unfortunately you have no clue about the different types of therapists.

OP, please ignore (a) the people who say you need a trauma therapist instead of an addiction therapist, and (b) the naysayers who insist that nothing could ever work. They're both ignorant and wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

Talk therapy addresses the underlying causes of addiction. Including for depression or trauma or anxiety or low self-esteem or grief. If you think it's useless for addiction, you must think it's useless for anything.

It’s good for mildly lost souls who need direction.

This is such a weird proxy fight over what therapy means and/or should be. Unfortunately you have no clue about the different types of therapists.

OP, please ignore (a) the people who say you need a trauma therapist instead of an addiction therapist, and (b) the naysayers who insist that nothing could ever work. They're both ignorant and wrong.

Ignore the people that are likely (70% chance) right and listen to the people caught up in the addiction mill process? No.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy

Some addiction therapists are trained to offer CBT and DBT. You really know nothing about therapy except perhaps for your interactions with your own trauma therapist (who, btw, may know nothing about CBT or DBT). You need to sit down.

Sounds like you are an addict who thinks 12 steps is the only way because it saved your soul.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

Talk therapy addresses the underlying causes of addiction. Including for depression or trauma or anxiety or low self-esteem or grief. If you think it's useless for addiction, you must think it's useless for anything.

It’s good for mildly lost souls who need direction.

This is such a weird proxy fight over what therapy means and/or should be. Unfortunately you have no clue about the different types of therapists.

OP, please ignore (a) the people who say you need a trauma therapist instead of an addiction therapist, and (b) the naysayers who insist that nothing could ever work. They're both ignorant and wrong.

Ignore the people that are likely (70% chance) right and listen to the people caught up in the addiction mill process? No.

Trauma Llama, you need to step down. An addiction therapist is not part of the "addiction mill process" and offers many skills your beloved trauma therapists cannot. You're offering horrific advice here.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy

Some addiction therapists are trained to offer CBT and DBT. You really know nothing about therapy except perhaps for your interactions with your own trauma therapist (who, btw, may know nothing about CBT or DBT). You need to sit down.

Sounds like you are an addict who thinks 12 steps is the only way because it saved your soul.

Oh, now it's clear: you're a troll. A troll who isn't shy about offering horrible advice to internet strangers or (lesser offensive) resorting to childish insults.

If you're not a troll, ask your trauma therapist about projecting your own experience onto every total stranger you meet on DCUM. And ask her about making up strange insults about anyone who disagrees with you. No, I'm not in recovery. Your behavior is not healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

Talk therapy addresses the underlying causes of addiction. Including for depression or trauma or anxiety or low self-esteem or grief. If you think it's useless for addiction, you must think it's useless for anything.

It’s good for mildly lost souls who need direction.

This is such a weird proxy fight over what therapy means and/or should be. Unfortunately you have no clue about the different types of therapists.

OP, please ignore (a) the people who say you need a trauma therapist instead of an addiction therapist, and (b) the naysayers who insist that nothing could ever work. They're both ignorant and wrong.

Ignore the people that are likely (70% chance) right and listen to the people caught up in the addiction mill process? No.

Clearly your trauma therapist hasn't helped you understand that you're misunderstanding addiction and addiction protocols, projecting your own issues onto others, fabricating wild claims about complete strangers.

You need to find a new therapist, preferably one whose practice isn't limited to trauma.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy

Some addiction therapists are trained to offer CBT and DBT. You really know nothing about therapy except perhaps for your interactions with your own trauma therapist (who, btw, may know nothing about CBT or DBT). You need to sit down.

Sounds like you are an addict who thinks 12 steps is the only way because it saved your soul.

Oh, now it's clear: you're a troll. A troll who isn't shy about offering horrible advice to internet strangers or (lesser offensive) resorting to childish insults.

If you're not a troll, ask your trauma therapist about projecting your own experience onto every total stranger you meet on DCUM. And ask her about making up strange insults about anyone who disagrees with you. No, I'm not in recovery. Your behavior is not healthy.

12 step programs have a 15% success rate. They say 50% but that is for 1 year. It’s a terrible model.

I don’t have trauma but you just read OP’s post … 2 kids in college. Something’s rotten in Denmark.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

Talk therapy addresses the underlying causes of addiction. Including for depression or trauma or anxiety or low self-esteem or grief. If you think it's useless for addiction, you must think it's useless for anything.

It’s good for mildly lost souls who need direction.

This is such a weird proxy fight over what therapy means and/or should be. Unfortunately you have no clue about the different types of therapists.

OP, please ignore (a) the people who say you need a trauma therapist instead of an addiction therapist, and (b) the naysayers who insist that nothing could ever work. They're both ignorant and wrong.

Ignore the people that are likely (70% chance) right and listen to the people caught up in the addiction mill process? No.

Clearly your trauma therapist hasn't helped you understand that you're misunderstanding addiction and addiction protocols, projecting your own issues onto others, fabricating wild claims about complete strangers.

You need to find a new therapist, preferably one whose practice isn't limited to trauma.

You need a therapist to stop attacking people online for giving advice. If you don’t like it move on.

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Your kid is in recovery and I wish him and you the best. Life is longer than this period of recovery. Sooner or later, an addict will go back to using. Our family member has gone through recovery and detox 15 times. He is clean and then he is using. A ticking time bomb that has cost the familu heavily. What can you do? You cannot watch them every single minute. It is a disease and it is the brain chemistry that is forever altered. They are tortured souls who will torture the family also.

Not close minded, but very clear-eyed about what we are dealing with.

Your experience is definitely not universal. My family member went to rehab thirty years ago for a serious drug problem and has never relapsed.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I have not seen a drug addict actually better their life. Either they have died or they have wrecked the lives of others. Hope that your family has a better outcome.

I would like to introduce you to Brian Cuban, yes brother of Mark Cuban, google him, an amazing story and also my kid who is in recovery as well. I am sure you know some but they haven't let you know because you are so closed minded and perfect.

Your kid is in recovery and I wish him and you the best. Life is longer than this period of recovery. Sooner or later, an addict will go back to using. Our family member has gone through recovery and detox 15 times. He is clean and then he is using. A ticking time bomb that has cost the familu heavily. What can you do? You cannot watch them every single minute. It is a disease and it is the brain chemistry that is forever altered. They are tortured souls who will torture the family also.

Not close minded, but very clear-eyed about what we are dealing with.

You know about boundaries and how recovery works, some go through it once, some 100 times. Bo0undaries work and it sucks to have to use them but they do work. The thing is, today, they are clean and sober, just like any person with any issues, the cheating wife or husband, the person stealing, the person gambling. If you go around walking on egg shells waiting for the other foot to drop you are not living your life, Today, my kid is sober and if something, not when but if, they know the consequences but i know plenty of people in recovery for decades, including me.

Not everyone goes back to using, you need a more positive outlook on things. If someone has another disease are you going to say they are going to get the disease again? I hope your frailly member the best and believe with proper treatment they will succeed, some don't want to.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.

You, my lady, are the one projecting.

There is not a single treatment plan for anyone, you have to find what works for you and run with it. It might not look like others and most people in recovery understand that as to the therapists.

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint.

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral. An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer.

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy

Some addiction therapists are trained to offer CBT and DBT. You really know nothing about therapy except perhaps for your interactions with your own trauma therapist (who, btw, may know nothing about CBT or DBT). You need to sit down.

Sounds like you are an addict who thinks 12 steps is the only way because it saved your soul.

Oh, now it's clear: you're a troll. A troll who isn't shy about offering horrible advice to internet strangers or (lesser offensive) resorting to childish insults.

If you're not a troll, ask your trauma therapist about projecting your own experience onto every total stranger you meet on DCUM. And ask her about making up strange insults about anyone who disagrees with you. No, I'm not in recovery. Your behavior is not healthy.

12 step programs have a 15% success rate. They say 50% but that is for 1 year. It’s a terrible model.

I don’t have trauma but you just read OP’s post … 2 kids in college. Something’s rotten in Denmark.