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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?[/quote]

“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.[/quote]

She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.[/quote]

Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs. [/quote]

Statistics is your friend.

There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but [b]my $ is on trauma.
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You, my lady, are the one projecting.[/quote]

Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy.  Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.

DCUM never fails to disappoint. [/quote]

What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.

About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.

Just playing the odds.[/quote]

Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet. [/quote]

But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?

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Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that. [/quote]

Great but find one that specializes in trauma.[/quote]

And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck. [/quote]

I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.

You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.

Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.[/quote]

So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?

OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.[/quote]

And if you go to a therapist that doesn’t understand trauma you could get a misdiagnosis and spin your wheels for decades.[/quote]

Of course an ADDICTION therapist is trained to look for all possible causes of addiction, and may also be able to provide trauma therapy if that's warranted, or quickly provide a referral.  An ADDICTION therapist will be able to recommend the best inpatient and outpatient programs for OP's sister's needs. An ADDICTION therapist will look for other causes as well (and there could be multiple causes or a single very different cause), and make a referral to a psychiatrist for SSRIs/SSNIs or other meds that could help treat underlying causes. Also, an ADDICTION therapist will help OP's family address other issues, like enabling OP's sister.

None of which a trauma therapist is necessarily able to provide. It's surprising you think an ADDICTION therapist only talks about the addiction itself instead of addressing the root causes, but that's exactly what they DO do. ADDICTION therapists provide talk therapy to address the underlying causes, in addition to all the other services I mentioned above. I have experience with ADDICTION therapy for a family member. This is yet another indication that you're not qualified to make recommendations on this issue.

This is a no-brainer. [/quote]

Talk therapy for addiction is useless.[/quote]

There's no recovery from addiction without addressing the underlying causes. Just sending someone to rehab won't accomplish anything if they come out and still need to deal with their depression or whatever. You must be the poster who thinks no addict can ever recover.[/quote]

They need to do CBT, DBT and/or EMDR not talk therapy [/quote]

:roll:   Some addiction therapists are trained to offer CBT and DBT. You really know nothing about therapy except perhaps for your interactions with your own trauma therapist (who, btw, may know nothing about CBT or DBT). You need to sit down.[/quote]

Sounds like you are an addict who thinks 12 steps is the only way because it saved your soul.[/quote]

Oh, now it's clear: you're a troll. A troll who isn't shy about offering horrible advice to internet strangers or (lesser offensive) resorting to childish insults.

If you're not a troll, ask your trauma therapist about projecting your own experience onto every total stranger you meet on DCUM. And ask her about making up strange insults about anyone who disagrees with you. No, I'm not in recovery. Your behavior is not healthy.[/quote]

12 step programs have a 15% success rate. They say 50% but that is for 1 year. It’s a terrible model.

I don’t have trauma but you just read OP’s post … 2 kids in college. Something’s rotten in Denmark.[/quote]

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