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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry. I have not seen a drug addict actually better their life.  Either they have died or they have wrecked the lives of others. Hope that your family has a better outcome.

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I would like to introduce you to Brian Cuban, yes brother of Mark Cuban, google him, an amazing story  and also my kid who is in recovery as well.  I am sure you know some but they haven't let you know because you are so closed minded and perfect.   [/quote]

Your kid is in recovery and I wish him and you the best. Life is longer than this period of recovery.  Sooner or later, an addict will go back to using.  Our family member has gone through recovery and detox 15 times.  He is clean and then he is using.  A ticking time bomb that has cost the familu heavily. What can you do? You cannot watch them every single minute. It is a disease and it is the brain chemistry that is forever altered. They are tortured souls who will torture the family also.

Not close minded, but very clear-eyed about what we are dealing with. [/quote]

DP. I'm sorry about your family member and you're correct it's a disease. But you're absolutely wrong that it's incurable. We know a guy who was a drug kingpin 20 years ago and did time for it. He was also a major addict. He's now a family man and owns a small business. He works AA and sponsors other people. [/quote]

Hmm

Which is the outlier?[/quote]

Tons of people succeed with AA and other programs. You're misinformed.[/quote]

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