Grand Jury report on LCPS sexual assault cases is unsealed

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What a report- this is crazy! I'm in LCPS and hadn't followed the news closely.

(Side note- why is this scanned and not OCRed? You can't search through it)

[Anonymous]

Their discussion of attorney client privilege and the recommendation was interesting. Just because counsel is present doesn't mean that everything is covered under ACP. Can't the judge overrule that? We only use ACP when they are actually giving legal advice.

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

The grand jury report shows admin getting angry at a teacher for writing an email about the kid sitting on girls' laps and putting his arm around their necks. The admin assumed the teacher was transphobic so in that kind of work environment a teacher is going to ignore a whole lot rather than risk their job.

I guess I am cut from a different cloth. My job is not worth not protecting kids

This is what cracks me up. Everyone is outraged that they found the individuals acted in their own best interests instead of the best interests of LCPS as a whole. Well, no sh!t, Sherlock.

CYOA is ingrained in everyone. Who wouldn't try to save their own butts and jobs over protecting their employer?

I once worked for a company with shady GAAP practices. They got audited and while others tried to obstruct and were vague about things, I gave the auditing team whatever they needed. A senior accountant pulled me aside and admonished me. She asked if I cared if the business got shut down. Uh, no. I only cared about not going to jail, thanks.

Prior to that job I had been an intern at a company for 3 summers (and other school breaks). I was interning there when a woman didn't show for work or call in, which was very unlike her. Her manager and department head were trying to locate her when they found out she'd died on the way to work that morning in a car accident. Her office was cleaned out by COB that same day and a temp was working in there the next morning. It was a terribly sad way to learn a fantastic life lesson that your employer doesn't care about you. You're a warm body doing a step in the process and that's it.

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Anonymous wrote:Their discussion of attorney client privilege and the recommendation was interesting. Just because counsel is present doesn't mean that everything is covered under ACP. Can't the judge overrule that? We only use ACP when they are actually giving legal advice.

There's no judge present during a grand jury.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to bring back institutions.

Mayor of NYC trying to do that. He will be excoriated by liberal crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:The independent review done by LCPS was with the same law firm they hired in July 2021. Their current division counsel was working at that law firm before coming to LCPS.

This is not independent, just a hand picked choice.

Well, isn't this special.

Why am I not surprised.

[Anonymous]

Maybe Virginia can create public schools for really troubled teens who are a danger to general population school students.

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

WHAT?! SERIOUSLY?!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Virginia can create public schools for really troubled teens who are a danger to general population school students.

We used to have those. Now those kids are walking the hallways with protections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

That teacher will never experience a moment of peace again after knowing what happened to that poor girl.

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Anonymous wrote:The report faults the school for not opening a Title IX investigation, and one official was dogged in pointing out these flaws in September.

I don't think schools and colleges should be doing these investigations, and instead the police should be handling it.

The police (LCSO) were involved from the beginning. An SRO from the school was involved. The LCSO dropped the ball and the right wing have tried to use the whole event to destroy the school board and the Super who do not lean right.

And the sheriff is about as evil a rabid right-winger as they get. He is really a villain in all of this.

As a Loudoun resident, it blows my mind that the LCSO isn’t being held more responsible for their part in this mess. Between this and the incident a month or so ago where they mistakenly released a violent offender, I wonder about the competency there.
Guess I am naive…I didn’t realize they were THAT bad.
I guess holding the LCSO accountable (in addition to the well-placed blame that resides with LCPS) doesn’t fit the narrative some are trying to sell, though.

These incidents are what happens when you have a Sheriff and Commonwealth Attorney who hate each other. Each plays the blame game with the other.

I have a sibling who gets in trouble a lot and lives in Leesburg so I'm often at the Loudoun County courthouse for his hearings. I've seen numerous cases get dismissed because the LCSO and CA office were basically in a juvenile pissing match with each other. This includes one of my brother's cases. The CA prosecuting his last DUI stated in court "due to an inability by the LCSO to follow proper procedure, we must ask for a dismissal, your honor." The CA and two LCSO officers there in court then had words afterward in the hall.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Virginia can create public schools for really troubled teens who are a danger to general population school students.

We used to have those. Now those kids are walking the hallways with protections.

Yep, we had them in LCPS when I was in school from 1992-2001. It was Douglas School in Leesburg (it's currently being renovated).

It's where the kids who were caught with drugs got sent and also the kids who were constant disruptions/discipline issues. The boy who pat a girl's butt in 9th grade got sent there for the rest of his HS career. The girls who snorted pixie stix like coke in 7th grade got sent there until 9th grade. The kid who slapped a teacher got sent there.

Now all those kids get to remain in mainstream school because "everyone has a right to an education."

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

That teacher will never experience a moment of peace again after knowing what happened to that poor girl.

I'm not sure that the kind of person who would walk out and do nothing would have those feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

That teacher will never experience a moment of peace again after knowing what happened to that poor girl.

I'm not sure that the kind of person who would walk out and do nothing would have those feelings.

Let me provide an alternative viewpoint of why this might’ve happened:

Teacher walks in. Sees two sets of feet in a stall. Surprise surprise, kids are in a stall together. This happens ALL THE TIME. Am I as the teacher going to intervene and try to get in that stall? No. What I AM going to do is leave and go find admin/school security because it’s their job to deal with those kinds of infractions. Given the interaction BEGAN consensually, the teacher likely had no idea it was going to turn into rape. Nothing may have been occurring at all when she walked in. As much as you might want to believe that students rarely meet in the bathroom to hook up or do drugs, that isn’t true: it’s incredibly common. She didn’t knowingly walk out on a rape - she walked out to probably go tell admin to deal with two students in the stall doing who knows what.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Virginia can create public schools for really troubled teens who are a danger to general population school students.

We used to have those. Now those kids are walking the hallways with protections.

Yep, we had them in LCPS when I was in school from 1992-2001. It was Douglas School in Leesburg (it's currently being renovated).

It's where the kids who were caught with drugs got sent and also the kids who were constant disruptions/discipline issues. The boy who pat a girl's butt in 9th grade got sent there for the rest of his HS career. The girls who snorted pixie stix like coke in 7th grade got sent there until 9th grade. The kid who slapped a teacher got sent there.

Now all those kids get to remain in mainstream school because "everyone has a right to an education."

I didn't even realize the Douglas School was no longer handling these kids. I guess I don't pay attention now that we're empty nesters.