Grand Jury report on LCPS sexual assault cases is unsealed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ziegler has been fired.

Long overdue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Testimony at the school board meeting that there is no record of sexual assaults in the restrooms.
This was called a lie by another witness.
There is record of a sexual assault. Not sexual assaults plural.

OP here.

There are two assaults. One at one school the other after the boy was transferred he was convicted in a court of law. None of that is in dispute.

This investigates more the actions of LCPS.

Sorry, my grammar got away from me there.

Assault 1 was in May. Assault 2 was in September. Different schools.

The second one was not in a restroom.

Well that makes it ok then

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

The grand jury report shows admin getting angry at a teacher for writing an email about the kid sitting on girls' laps and putting his arm around their necks. The admin assumed the teacher was transphobic so in that kind of work environment a teacher is going to ignore a whole lot rather than risk their job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

The grand jury report shows admin getting angry at a teacher for writing an email about the kid sitting on girls' laps and putting his arm around their necks. The admin assumed the teacher was transphobic so in that kind of work environment a teacher is going to ignore a whole lot rather than risk their job.

I guess I am cut from a different cloth. My job is not worth not protecting kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

The grand jury report shows admin getting angry at a teacher for writing an email about the kid sitting on girls' laps and putting his arm around their necks. The admin assumed the teacher was transphobic so in that kind of work environment a teacher is going to ignore a whole lot rather than risk their job.

My freshman says people having sex in bathrooms is pretty much constantly happening and also girls making out with each other (the sex is boy/girl in the handicapped stall and the making out is just in the bathroom). I can see where teachers don't want to get involved at all in policing boy/girl behavior if it also leads to policing girl/girl behavior and being accused of being a bigot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

The grand jury report shows admin getting angry at a teacher for writing an email about the kid sitting on girls' laps and putting his arm around their necks. The admin assumed the teacher was transphobic so in that kind of work environment a teacher is going to ignore a whole lot rather than risk their job.

My freshman says people having sex in bathrooms is pretty much constantly happening and also girls making out with each other (the sex is boy/girl in the handicapped stall and the making out is just in the bathroom). I can see where teachers don't want to get involved at all in policing boy/girl behavior if it also leads to policing girl/girl behavior and being accused of being a bigot.

My freshman has never seen any such thing but at our HS bathrooms are either monitored by and adult, or locked. This is primarily due to vaping, but I guess has the added bonus of preventing sexual assaults. I really like our principal thought and feel confident he would have handled this totally differently.

[Anonymous]

This is what is wrong with our public school systems: ‘we believe that throughout this ordeal LCPS administrators were looking out for their own interests instead of the best interests of LCPS.’

What about in the best interests of the victims and their families?!!!!! LCPS is acting like it was the poor victim or even a victim at all! So disconnected. Thought the only district in DMV as obtuse as this one was MCPS - who has had nearly 50 sexual abuse instances in 10 years. They take the cake for distorted culture but this joint appears to be in the running to replace them.

[Anonymous]

On Monday, LCPS and the Loudoun County school board leadership released a statement saying:

"In spite of the recent allegations leveled against Loudoun County School Board (LCSB) members and Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS) employees over the past several months, we are pleased that the Special Grand Jury’s extensive investigation found no evidence of criminal conduct on the part of anyone within LCPS, and not a single indictment was filed as a result of this lengthy process."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On Monday, LCPS and the Loudoun County school board leadership released a statement saying:

"In spite of the recent allegations leveled against Loudoun County School Board (LCSB) members and Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS) employees over the past several months, we are pleased that the Special Grand Jury’s extensive investigation found no evidence of criminal conduct on the part of anyone within LCPS, and not a single indictment was filed as a result of this lengthy process."

Glad they are pleased there was no evidence of criminal conduct. Their moral conduct was reprehensible and that will not serve them well in the future.

[Anonymous]

One thing that stood out in the report is the mom's heartfelt comment that she has sought help for her son, and couldn't find it. It reminds me of a recent thread in Off Topic:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1097245.page
"10 year old fatally shoots mother over virtual reality headset- being tried as adult"

This thread is about a sociopathic child. One theme that came up repeatedly is how parents are unable to find any resources and are at their wit's end. Someone brought up a family in Potomac where the parents locked themselves in the master bedroom every night, with the other children, and left the troubled child to roam the house. It was that bad.

This particular kid shouldn't have been in a school setting. The laws need to be changed.

I don't know what the answer is, but society doesn't know what to do with sociopaths.

I'm not trying to let the County off the hook. They bungled their handling of this creep, and a young girl who had nothing to do with this boy is now traumatized for life. I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are other victims, only they're too bashful, embarrassed and traumatized to step forward.

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Anonymous wrote:The grand jury report literally states that the superintendents answer that sexual assaults do not happen in restrooms was an intentional lie. Ziegler does not deny he lied. He’s hid behind “ongoing investigation.”

He had to walk a tightrope with that. If he had said there was a sexual assault that probably would have been actionable as it would have assume the student was guilty. The have to be careful about foia as well. Students have rights including the student who supposedly assaulted the other.

“Supposedly?” He was convicted in a court of law and is locked up.

DP. Not at the time when Ziegler made the statement, which is the relevant time for purposes of this analysis.

He didn’t have to name any students. He could have said that one student reported an assault and there would be an investigation. He didn’t. He straight up lied.

This is where you are ignorant. It would not require naming the student for the student's privacy and rights to be violated. It's a tightrope.

He could have just said this isn't something I can discuss in an open meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing that stood out in the report is the mom's heartfelt comment that she has sought help for her son, and couldn't find it. It reminds me of a recent thread in Off Topic:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1097245.page
"10 year old fatally shoots mother over virtual reality headset- being tried as adult"

This thread is about a sociopathic child. One theme that came up repeatedly is how parents are unable to find any resources and are at their wit's end. Someone brought up a family in Potomac where the parents locked themselves in the master bedroom every night, with the other children, and left the troubled child to roam the house. It was that bad.

This particular kid shouldn't have been in a school setting. The laws need to be changed.

I don't know what the answer is, but society doesn't know what to do with sociopaths.

I'm not trying to let the County off the hook. They bungled their handling of this creep, and a young girl who had nothing to do with this boy is now traumatized for life. I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are other victims, only they're too bashful, embarrassed and traumatized to step forward.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/loudoun-county-rapists-mother-it-was-an-accident-and-a-real-victim-wouldnt-sit-there-and-take-it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher walked into the bathroom during the assault, saw the two feet under the door, and walked out, doing nothing. Aces.

The grand jury report shows admin getting angry at a teacher for writing an email about the kid sitting on girls' laps and putting his arm around their necks. The admin assumed the teacher was transphobic so in that kind of work environment a teacher is going to ignore a whole lot rather than risk their job.

I guess I am cut from a different cloth. My job is not worth not protecting kids

Can’t protect the kids if you’re unemployed. You also can’t pay your mortgage. It’s an easy thing to type on DCUM, but the reality for most people is very different.

[Anonymous]

We need to bring back institutions.

[Anonymous]

The independent review done by LCPS was with the same law firm they hired in July 2021. Their current division counsel was working at that law firm before coming to LCPS.

This is not independent, just a hand picked choice.