TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

A better way of saying this is to ensure the actual gifted kids whose families failed to spend $20k on prep have a shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

A better way of saying this is to ensure the actual gifted kids whose families failed to spend $20k on prep have a shot.

If you think the likes of Ricardy Anderson, Laura Jane Cohen or Karen Corbett Sanders care about anything but getting enough pork (in the form of seats) for their districts you really aren’t too bright. It’s not about “actual gifted kids” at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

A better way of saying this is to ensure the actual gifted kids whose families failed to spend $20k on prep have a shot.

Or just equitable access to education?

If you think the likes of Ricardy Anderson, Laura Jane Cohen or Karen Corbett Sanders care about anything but getting enough pork (in the form of seats) for their districts you really aren’t too bright. It’s not about “actual gifted kids” at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

A better way of saying this is to ensure the actual gifted kids whose families failed to spend $20k on prep have a shot.

If you think the likes of Ricardy Anderson, Laura Jane Cohen or Karen Corbett Sanders care about anything but getting enough pork (in the form of seats) for their districts you really aren’t too bright. It’s not about “actual gifted kids” at all.

I know it's about serving the rich and ensuring that their kids get in whatever it takes!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

The Highest Court in the Land will render its Decision in due time to dispense with the unjust affirmative action to preserve the notion of 'Equal Protection under the Law".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

The Highest Court in the Land will render its Decision in due time to dispense with the unjust affirmative action to preserve the notion of 'Equal Protection under the Law".

Since TJ admissions have always been race blind, I don't think the illegitimate supreme court's decision will have any bearing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

The Highest Court in the Land will render its Decision in due time to dispense with the unjust affirmative action to preserve the notion of 'Equal Protection under the Law".

Since TJ admissions have always been race blind, I don't think the illegitimate supreme court's decision will have any bearing.

1. A district court found that TJ admissions were motivated by race and not race-blind, notwithstanding the pretext that FCPS was only seeking to increase geographical diversity. All the district court needed to do to reach that conclusion was look at the factual record of statements by Scott Brabrand and various School Board members.

2. Time will tell if other federal courts agree with that assessment, but we know the current Supreme Court is more philosophically aligned with the thinking of the district court judge than the thinking of the Fourth Circuit. It may take a while to play out, but that's hardly unique to this case.

3. Neither you nor those running FCPS could nullify a Supreme Court decision affecting TJ, regardless of your feelings about the current makeup of the Supreme Court. If FCPS tried to ignore a relevant Supreme Court decision, the state would take over FCPS and individual School Board members could very well end up personally liable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

The Highest Court in the Land will render its Decision in due time to dispense with the unjust affirmative action to preserve the notion of 'Equal Protection under the Law".

Since TJ admissions have always been race blind, I don't think the illegitimate supreme court's decision will have any bearing.

1. A district court found that TJ admissions were motivated by race and not race-blind, notwithstanding the pretext that FCPS was only seeking to increase geographical diversity. All the district court needed to do to reach that conclusion was look at the factual record of statements by Scott Brabrand and various School Board members.

2. Time will tell if other federal courts agree with that assessment, but we know the current Supreme Court is more philosophically aligned with the thinking of the district court judge than the thinking of the Fourth Circuit. It may take a while to play out, but that's hardly unique to this case.

3. Neither you nor those running FCPS could nullify a Supreme Court decision affecting TJ, regardless of your feelings about the current makeup of the Supreme Court. If FCPS tried to ignore a relevant Supreme Court decision, the state would take over FCPS and individual School Board members could very well end up personally liable.

A higher court kicked this to the curb when they could find actual harm done. Sure, there are some Trump-appointed judges who may help fuel grievance politics, but any credible judge won't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

The Highest Court in the Land will render its Decision in due time to dispense with the unjust affirmative action to preserve the notion of 'Equal Protection under the Law".

Since TJ admissions have always been race blind, I don't think the illegitimate supreme court's decision will have any bearing.

Yes, the case before SCOTUS is about race-based college admissions which isn't applicable to TJ since an applicant's race isn't known or considered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.

There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.

Yes, an upper bound would help limit the impact of outside enrichment on admissions and ensure that all residents get equal access to these opportunities.

Kids had equal access to opportunities.

What the pork barrel politicians want is equal outcomes, but since they can’t pull that off they just mess around with TJ and tolerate much bigger disparities everywhere else.

That’s fine with the phonies behind TJAAG and their allies because it keeps TJ front and center, which plays to their endless narcissism.

Oh no they really didn't since those who could afford prep got early access to the test questions which gave them a huge edge over the less affluent schools.

Oh, please. They could have prepped through programs at those schools, too. They couldn’t compete on merit so the politicians had to come up with quotas.

The Highest Court in the Land will render its Decision in due time to dispense with the unjust affirmative action to preserve the notion of 'Equal Protection under the Law".

Since TJ admissions have always been race blind, I don't think the illegitimate supreme court's decision will have any bearing.

Yes, the case before SCOTUS is about race-based college admissions which isn't applicable to TJ since an applicant's race isn't known or considered.

That really depends on how the holding is phrased. Are you counting on this Court to rule narrowly? I'd think think it's more likely we get a language barring the use of race in admissions that we get language restricting the holding to the university level.

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That really depends on how the holding is phrased. Are you counting on this Court to rule narrowly? I'd think think it's more likely we get a language barring the use of race in admissions that we get language restricting the holding to the university level.

FCPS is claiming they are not using race in admissions to TJ. If a county opened a brand new school with the current admissions policy, there would be no case.
The racial discrimination is a finding by the judge that FCPS made these changes with intent to discriminate against Asians.
LCPS was more blatant in putting in a maximum quota per school, and claiming they weren't using geography as a proxy for race.