TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

Many of those new students failed out for failing to meet the minimum 3.0 unweighted gpa requirement.

#? Is this data published somewhere?

I heard they almost did as badly as the 2nd rate preppers who got in on the old system when there was rampant cheating even.

Only about 1-2% transferred out under the old system but that number increased significantly after the admissions system was changed.

That's not what I heard. In fact, I was told it was the complete opposite. Do you have any actual proof of this or is this just your speculation to suit your personal bias?

Well, it's true that many of the kids who were getting in with the old system were only admitted by cheating.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

Many of those new students failed out for failing to meet the minimum 3.0 unweighted gpa requirement.

#? Is this data published somewhere?

I heard they almost did as badly as the 2nd rate preppers who got in on the old system when there was rampant cheating even.

Only about 1-2% transferred out under the old system but that number increased significantly after the admissions system was changed.

That's not what I heard. In fact, I was told it was the complete opposite. Do you have any actual proof of this or is this just your speculation to suit your personal bias?

Well, it's true that many of the kids who were getting in with the old system were only admitted by cheating.

Very few if any cheated to gain admission prior to the admission changes were made.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

Many of those new students failed out for failing to meet the minimum 3.0 unweighted gpa requirement.

#? Is this data published somewhere?

I heard they almost did as badly as the 2nd rate preppers who got in on the old system when there was rampant cheating even.

Only about 1-2% transferred out under the old system but that number increased significantly after the admissions system was changed.

That's not what I heard. In fact, I was told it was the complete opposite. Do you have any actual proof of this or is this just your speculation to suit your personal bias?

Well, it's true that many of the kids who were getting in with the old system were only admitted by cheating.

Obviously, since 90% of the kids who got in prepped and preppers had access to the test.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

Many of those new students failed out for failing to meet the minimum 3.0 unweighted gpa requirement.

#? Is this data published somewhere?

I heard they almost did as badly as the 2nd rate preppers who got in on the old system when there was rampant cheating even.

Only about 1-2% transferred out under the old system but that number increased significantly after the admissions system was changed.

That's not what I heard. In fact, I was told it was the complete opposite. Do you have any actual proof of this or is this just your speculation to suit your personal bias?

Well, it's true that many of the kids who were getting in with the old system were only admitted by cheating.

Obviously, since 90% of the kids who got in prepped and preppers had access to the test.

They had to revamp the entire admissions process because of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

Yes but it was #fakenews.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

Yes but it was #fakenews.

No it isn't. I heard about it from a student in the class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

Yes but it was #fakenews.

No it isn't. I heard about it from a student in the class.

That student gave you fake news.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

Yes but it was #fakenews.

No it isn't. I heard about it from a student in the class.

That student gave you fake news.

No, not really but my friend's kid didn't get in and they had spent something like $20k on prep so they enjoy spreading these stories about the kids who got in. I think it makes them feel better about themselves.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

Yes but it was #fakenews.

No it isn't. I heard about it from a student in the class.

That student gave you fake news.

No, not really but my friend's kid didn't get in and they had spent something like $20k on prep so they enjoy spreading these stories about the kids who got in. I think it makes them feel better about themselves.

Give it a rest. You sound pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

It was class of 2025 kids, who mostly had taken algebra in 8th grade. The kids who took algebra 2 in 8th were not in this class. Not sure about geometry.

#fakenews

There was a whole thread about it in this forum.

Yes but it was #fakenews.

No it isn't. I heard about it from a student in the class.

That student gave you fake news.

No, not really but my friend's kid didn't get in and they had spent something like $20k on prep so they enjoy spreading these stories about the kids who got in. I think it makes them feel better about themselves.

I also get a sense a lot of this is sour grapes.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

Many of those new students failed out for failing to meet the minimum 3.0 unweighted gpa requirement.

#? Is this data published somewhere?

I heard they almost did as badly as the 2nd rate preppers who got in on the old system when there was rampant cheating even.

Only about 1-2% transferred out under the old system but that number increased significantly after the admissions system was changed.

That's not what I heard. In fact, I was told it was the complete opposite. Do you have any actual proof of this or is this just your speculation to suit your personal bias?

Well, it's true that many of the kids who were getting in with the old system were only admitted by cheating.

Very few if any cheated to gain admission prior to the admission changes were made.

Over a 3rd went to one prep center that was known to expose them to actual questions. It is likely far more widespread so your statement is implausible.

[Anonymous]

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True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

These would be the students that didn't bother to show up for tutoring for the math class they were having so much trouble with? The ones to whom the teachers wrote a letter complaining about there poor performance?

I thought those kids were mostly Class of 2024, not Class of 2025.

Most likely with the newer, watered-down classes the teachers will be instructed not to challenge the kids that much in the first instance. FCPS has a lot invested in proclaiming the “success” of the kids admitted under the new system. Whether the rigor diminishes doesn’t really matter to them.

Many of those new students failed out for failing to meet the minimum 3.0 unweighted gpa requirement.

#? Is this data published somewhere?

I heard they almost did as badly as the 2nd rate preppers who got in on the old system when there was rampant cheating even.

Only about 1-2% transferred out under the old system but that number increased significantly after the admissions system was changed.

That's not what I heard. In fact, I was told it was the complete opposite. Do you have any actual proof of this or is this just your speculation to suit your personal bias?

Well, it's true that many of the kids who were getting in with the old system were only admitted by cheating.

Very few if any cheated to gain admission prior to the admission changes were made.

Over a 3rd went to one prep center that was known to expose them to actual questions. It is likely far more widespread so your statement is implausible.

Some may have seen similar questions which happens in all prep centers for almost all kinds of exams.