Admission for athletic recruits

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.


Can confirm.


Yes low-level athletics they will want high academic performers


Hopkins has low level lax?



Hopkins lacrosse has academic standards much more similar to the ACC schools than the Ivy League schools (i.e. the floor is more like 1050 on the SAT vs ~1300 for the Ivies). The standards for their D3 sports are far, far higher than they are for lacrosse.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are the "numbers" that recruited athletes need to hit on the academic scorecard to get in to the Ivy+ schools?

At least 25th percentile? 50th?


It depends on the sport and how good of an athlete the kid is (i.e., how much the school wants to recruit him/her). Not all recruited athletes are the same...for top recruits, test optional applies. Before TO, I heard of football recruits at H/Y/P getting in with a 21 on ACT. For less desirable recruits, the test scores will need to be higher. This also varies by sport. Some sports are filled with high income kids with high test scores (sailing, squash, etc.). Probably all those kids need high test across-the-board. For other sports (football in particular given how big rosters are and that the number of kids in the country playing football is falling), there's going to be way more flexibility. There is very little uniformity in college athletic recruiting from school-to-school, sport-to-sport, recruit-to-recruit.


I can't imagine someone with a 21 ACT making the AI minimum for the Ivy League, much less the higher cutoffs in place at HYP.
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Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s

I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.


I know multiple kids being recruited by CalTech this year. The coaches are very clear that athletics will do nothing for them in admissions but they want them on teams if they get through admissions.


One of these things is not like the other


Soccer, cross country. What’s interesting is that I also know kids being recruited at MIT and at MIT athletics does help significantly in admissions. But not at CalTech.


Agree. CalTech is not really known for sports. MIT, however, is competitive in several sports in D3
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Anonymous wrote:So what are the "numbers" that recruited athletes need to hit on the academic scorecard to get in to the Ivy+ schools?

At least 25th percentile? 50th?


MIT is 740 math / 720
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Anonymous wrote:So what are the "numbers" that recruited athletes need to hit on the academic scorecard to get in to the Ivy+ schools?

At least 25th percentile? 50th?


MIT is 740 math / 720


probably different for different sports. for my DC's sport, MIT wanted 770 math
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My DS got in MIT athletic recruit with a 1510
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This kid was kicked off the UVA team for violating rules. I know him well and was furious the foreign-born players were waxing the floor with him at UVA
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Anonymous wrote:My DS got in MIT athletic recruit with a 1510


25th score percentile for MIT.
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Anonymous wrote:This kid was kicked off the UVA team for violating rules. I know him well and was furious the foreign-born players were waxing the floor with him at UVA



So he left a good school, UVA, to attend a better school, UChicago. What not to like?
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Anonymous wrote:OP is an idiot. The guy - and he’s a tool alright - makes perfectly clear that it wasn’t a situation where he applied to Yale, Penn and UVA in high school but his SAT score was only high enough for UVA. He also never said he got a 1200; he said a 1200 was the lowest score that UVA would allow.

The guy flamed out at UVA, had a reputation for being an a$$hole, and coaches talk. THAT’S why he couldn’t transfer to the Ivy League.


He might be a tool to you but he will get an economic degree from the University of Chicago and the team did win the D3 championship.

You must be a bitter person.
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Anonymous wrote:This kid was kicked off the UVA team for violating rules. I know him well and was furious the foreign-born players were waxing the floor with him at UVA



So he left a good school, UVA, to attend a better school, UChicago. What not to like?


Moving from the highest-ranked tennis team as of last year to a lowly D3. The competition is miles apart
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Anonymous wrote:So what are the "numbers" that recruited athletes need to hit on the academic scorecard to get in to the Ivy+ schools?

At least 25th percentile? 50th?


Somewhere 1300 and 1400, for the kids I know. Non revenue sports.


That would put them at probably the 5th percentile at a place like Harvard lol

25th percentile is a 1460.

1300-1400 feels really low.


It’s not that low if you consider half the class didn’t even submit scores. The kids who didn’t submit scores probably would have scored in the 1200-1450 range.
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How many URM at Harvard probably didn’t evfn get a 1300
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Anonymous wrote:This kid was kicked off the UVA team for violating rules. I know him well and was furious the foreign-born players were waxing the floor with him at UVA



So he left a good school, UVA, to attend a better school, UChicago. What not to like?


Moving from the highest-ranked tennis team as of last year to a lowly D3. The competition is miles apart


Well, he will get a degree in economics from the University of Chicago which is better than UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:This kid was kicked off the UVA team for violating rules. I know him well and was furious the foreign-born players were waxing the floor with him at UVA



So he left a good school, UVA, to attend a better school, UChicago. What not to like?


Chicago winters, dangerous U Chicago neighborhood, U Chicago being the school "where fun goes to die"...
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Anonymous wrote:How many URM at Harvard probably didn’t evfn get a 1300


Racist.
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