Admission for athletic recruits

[Anonymous]

Hopkins is much more lax with their D1 lax admissions standard than their standards for D3 sports.

The bigger the stage in the sport, the more relaxed the standard tends to be. On the high academic side, that translates to power 5 schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Vandy, and Duke having more admissions flexibility than the athletically less competitive Ivy League schools, which have more flexibility than the D3 schools like MIT, Chicago, Wash U, Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, most of Hopkins, ect.

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How are northwestern and Vande in the power 5?

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How are northwestern and Vande in the power 5?

Northwestern plays in the Big Ten and Vanderbilt plays in the SEC -- the term "Power 5" refers to conferences (Big 10, Big 12, PAC 12, SEC, ACC).

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

From what I have heard from moms I know with kids being recruited, the coach may ask for scores. That’s different than the kid submitting the scores as part of the application. I heard from one mom of a kid committed to play a sport at a “lower” ivy that he was told not to submit his 1400 SAT score. I get that is anecdotal. I suspect it is not the only time it has happened.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

I love how uiy lumped lacrosse as a top sport

It is a pretty high profile sport at the Ivies (probably #4 after football, basketball, and hockey) -- it's definitely higher profile than sports like soccer and baseball, and is generally at the top of the food chain socially. Every Ivy League team except Dartmouth made the playoffs this past year, which is pretty damn good when only 16 teams total make the D1 tournament (and even Dartmouth had a pretty good year all things considered).

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is much more lax with their D1 lax admissions standard than their standards for D3 sports.

The bigger the stage in the sport, the more relaxed the standard tends to be. On the high academic side, that translates to power 5 schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Vandy, and Duke having more admissions flexibility than the athletically less competitive Ivy League schools, which have more flexibility than the D3 schools like MIT, Chicago, Wash U, Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, most of Hopkins, ect.

Yep, this is all true.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

I love how uiy lumped lacrosse as a top sport

At many schools it is a top sport but (other than at JHU) not to the extent of football or hoops.

"Top sport" in what way? Maybe there would be a lot of interest in playing it at certain schools, but I don't see it as a top revenue generator.

Do a lot of these athletes continue to play their sport year after year once admitted? They're not getting a scholarship for it, and I'm assuming they can't be dismissed for choosing to quit. I wonder if some use it for a bump in admissions and then quit.

LACROSSE IS GOD at Hopkins. Hopkins Homecoming is centered around a Lacrosse game, not football. Homecoming weekend was the big lacrosse game. Football is not a big deal at hopkins---at all.

My husband is an alum.

Well, they are actually good at lacrosse, so why not?

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

I love how uiy lumped lacrosse as a top sport

At many schools it is a top sport but (other than at JHU) not to the extent of football or hoops.

"Top sport" in what way? Maybe there would be a lot of interest in playing it at certain schools, but I don't see it as a top revenue generator.

Do a lot of these athletes continue to play their sport year after year once admitted? They're not getting a scholarship for it, and I'm assuming they can't be dismissed for choosing to quit. I wonder if some use it for a bump in admissions and then quit.

Your kids must not be athletes. Nobody does all the years of work needed to get recruited to play at college level just so they can get into a good school and then quit. The few that quit probably got injured.

People can get burned out, especially if they have a heavy academic load. It's not like they're typically going to Ivies as a stepping stone to going pro.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

I love how uiy lumped lacrosse as a top sport

At many schools it is a top sport but (other than at JHU) not to the extent of football or hoops.

"Top sport" in what way? Maybe there would be a lot of interest in playing it at certain schools, but I don't see it as a top revenue generator.

Do a lot of these athletes continue to play their sport year after year once admitted? They're not getting a scholarship for it, and I'm assuming they can't be dismissed for choosing to quit. I wonder if some use it for a bump in admissions and then quit.

Your kids must not be athletes. Nobody does all the years of work needed to get recruited to play at college level just so they can get into a good school and then quit. The few that quit probably got injured.

People can get burned out, especially if they have a heavy academic load. It's not like they're typically going to Ivies as a stepping stone to going pro.

Also, only a small subset of recruits actually get a decent amount of playing time. Kids quit because college athletics is a huge time sucks and it may not be worthwhile to sit on the bench,

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Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

I love how uiy lumped lacrosse as a top sport

At many schools it is a top sport but (other than at JHU) not to the extent of football or hoops.

"Top sport" in what way? Maybe there would be a lot of interest in playing it at certain schools, but I don't see it as a top revenue generator.

Do a lot of these athletes continue to play their sport year after year once admitted? They're not getting a scholarship for it, and I'm assuming they can't be dismissed for choosing to quit. I wonder if some use it for a bump in admissions and then quit.

LACROSSE IS GOD at Hopkins. Hopkins Homecoming is centered around a Lacrosse game, not football. Homecoming weekend was the big lacrosse game. Football is not a big deal at hopkins---at all.

My husband is an alum.

Well, they are actually good at lacrosse, so why not?

It isn't just that they are good at lacrosse, it is that they are arguably the most successful, and inarguably (with Syracuse and Maryland) one of the three most successful, mens lacrosse programs over the last 100+ years. If you aren't from Maryland, you can't fully appreciate how important lacrosse is in Baltimore and the center of that is Homewood Field. Plus, unlike Maryland, Cuse and pretty much all of the other D1 powerhouse lacrosse programs, there is not a D1 football or basketball program of note.

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Lacrosse is played in like 4 states. It is really not a big deal elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is much more lax with their D1 lax admissions standard than their standards for D3 sports.

The bigger the stage in the sport, the more relaxed the standard tends to be. On the high academic side, that translates to power 5 schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Vandy, and Duke having more admissions flexibility than the athletically less competitive Ivy League schools, which have more flexibility than the D3 schools like MIT, Chicago, Wash U, Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, most of Hopkins, ect.

For non revenue sports, Stanford has a higher minimum score threshold than the Ivy League. No index though, so you could have a team with lots of kids who scored in the 1300-1350 range, where Ivy teams will have a handful who scored in the 1200-1250 range and the majority much higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is much more lax with their D1 lax admissions standard than their standards for D3 sports.

The bigger the stage in the sport, the more relaxed the standard tends to be. On the high academic side, that translates to power 5 schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Vandy, and Duke having more admissions flexibility than the athletically less competitive Ivy League schools, which have more flexibility than the D3 schools like MIT, Chicago, Wash U, Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, most of Hopkins, ect.

For non revenue sports, Stanford has a higher minimum score threshold than the Ivy League. No index though, so you could have a team with lots of kids who scored in the 1300-1350 range, where Ivy teams will have a handful who scored in the 1200-1250 range and the majority much higher.

This is true and has been so since I was a D1 athletic stud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is much more lax with their D1 lax admissions standard than their standards for D3 sports.

The bigger the stage in the sport, the more relaxed the standard tends to be. On the high academic side, that translates to power 5 schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Vandy, and Duke having more admissions flexibility than the athletically less competitive Ivy League schools, which have more flexibility than the D3 schools like MIT, Chicago, Wash U, Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, most of Hopkins, ect.

For non revenue sports, Stanford has a higher minimum score threshold than the Ivy League. No index though, so you could have a team with lots of kids who scored in the 1300-1350 range, where Ivy teams will have a handful who scored in the 1200-1250 range and the majority much higher.

This is true and has been so since I was a D1 athletic stud

In your dreams buddy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is being recruited by JHU. Was told by the coach that they want to see 1500/34 and top 10% of HS class.

JHU = D3
Not the same answer for D1 schools.

We were told the same for the Ivies (D1 schools).

So if I am understanding correctly, despite the test-optional policy, we should expect that the Ivy League schools reaching out to our student-athlete ("top" sport like football/basketball/lacrosse) will request ACT/SAT scores? Also, when should we expect Ivy League recruiting to end practically speaking? End of junior year? End of first semester senior year?

Thank you!

I love how uiy lumped lacrosse as a top sport

At many schools it is a top sport but (other than at JHU) not to the extent of football or hoops.

"Top sport" in what way? Maybe there would be a lot of interest in playing it at certain schools, but I don't see it as a top revenue generator.

Do a lot of these athletes continue to play their sport year after year once admitted? They're not getting a scholarship for it, and I'm assuming they can't be dismissed for choosing to quit. I wonder if some use it for a bump in admissions and then quit.

Wrong. And just anecdotally, my DD was at JHU for a (non-lax) sports camp on the same day as a lax game and it was a huge event: tons of people, tailgating, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is much more lax with their D1 lax admissions standard than their standards for D3 sports.

The bigger the stage in the sport, the more relaxed the standard tends to be. On the high academic side, that translates to power 5 schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Vandy, and Duke having more admissions flexibility than the athletically less competitive Ivy League schools, which have more flexibility than the D3 schools like MIT, Chicago, Wash U, Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, most of Hopkins, ect.

For non revenue sports, Stanford has a higher minimum score threshold than the Ivy League. No index though, so you could have a team with lots of kids who scored in the 1300-1350 range, where Ivy teams will have a handful who scored in the 1200-1250 range and the majority much higher.

This is true and has been so since I was a D1 athletic stud

In your dreams buddy.

Not the person you're responding to but . . . do you get off posting these lame a$$ attempts at a cut down? Get a hobby.