Dahmer

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

The selective outage is because of the killing of minority gay males

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is more that there aren’t movies about victims and victims families.

Half of the entire Dahmer series was spent on this.

Are people outraged who didn't even watch the show?

I wonder how many 9/11 families were outraged Nick Cage made a crappy movie about it. No outrage then. Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is more that there aren’t movies about victims and victims families.

Half of the entire Dahmer series was spent on this.

Are people outraged who didn't even watch the show?

I wonder how many 9/11 families were outraged Nick Cage made a crappy movie about it. No outrage then. Why?

Because of the color of the victims here of course

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 4 episodes in. This is the kind of show I need to take breaks in between episodes. It’s so disturbing. Shocking how many red flags were ignored by the police and his family. That moment when he was thisclose to telling his dad about the first murder, and his dad interrupted him. I wonder if that conversation actually happened. So disappointing.

The fact his parents ignored the red flags made them just as responsible as Dahmer. Torturing animals is very serious.

I resent that parents get blamed for everything when it comes to childrearing. If parents are responsible for all failures with their children, than the same should be true for all successes. If you had an abusive, alcoholic parent, and yet, you went on to be an award-winning doctor, your parent is responsible for your success. See how that works?

In the movie, Dahmer states that he came out screwed up and that his upbringing was not to blame. I think this is true for many. Some people just have shitty wiring.

[Anonymous]

How sad that our culture spends so much of their leisure time watching shows that depict violence for entertainment. Thank about that? It is reminiscent of the Roman coliseums. That cannot be healthy or a good sign.

We could be watching music or documentaries about science or upstanding heroes, but we CONSTANTLY focus on documenting the lives and deeds of our most sick citizens. Why Why Why??

As a woman, I could spend all night every night watching the likes of Dateline or some police drama about other women who were killed by their exes or spouses or raped by some serial predator.

In our spare time, this is what people choose to do. Millions are spent on recreating this stuff. Ponder that.

[Anonymous]

I like true crime in general but find the Dahmer stuff just too depressing and gross. Just so depressing how much life could’ve been saved if the cops weren’t racist homophobes.

Fun fact though…my mother used to work in public health in Wisconsin and toured that prison where he was murdered and said there is no way the guards couldn’t have seen Dahmer getting murdered based on the layout. Although maybe they just weren’t where they were paid to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is more that there aren’t movies about victims and victims families.

Half of the entire Dahmer series was spent on this.

Are people outraged who didn't even watch the show?

I wonder how many 9/11 families were outraged Nick Cage made a crappy movie about it. No outrage then. Why?

Actually several 9/11 families did speak out and there was outrage.

I think people just don’t like to acknowledge that they like re-victimizing families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

The Holocaust is how an entire society was taken over, and turned into a genocidal machine.

How so many nations just rolled over in the face of a maniac, and so many others stood by and watched until they felt their interests were threatened.

We need to understand why and how that happened.

Entering the mind of rare individuals who are SO sick that they get sexual pleasure from harming children is not a great place to hang out. There is not much that the average person can do to prevent the next rare sociopath, operating as a lone wolf.

If more people understood how Hitler happened, we might have avoided the nightmare of having Donald Trump (and his cronies) as our elected representatives.

[Anonymous]

Oprah sits down with the father of Jeffrey Dahmer, Lionel Dahmer, to talk about raising a murderer and coming to terms with his son’s atrocities. (1994)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

The selective outage is because of the killing of minority gay males

This is the reason. 100%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

The selective outage is because of the killing of minority gay males

This is the reason. 100%.

Prob collective shame considering that this population wasn’t protected. Which is something that needs to be acknowledged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

The selective outage is because of the killing of minority gay males

This is the reason. 100%.

Can you explain more what you mean? I’m not following.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

The selective outage is because of the killing of minority gay males

This is the reason. 100%.

Prob collective shame considering that this population wasn’t protected. Which is something that needs to be acknowledged.

If you watch the series they allude to the fact that he wasn’t caught because at that time the cops weren’t protecting the minority/oppressed groups as they should have.

[Anonymous]

Oprah interview with Dahmers dad was interesting. He had a seemingly a typical childhood many could have had. In fact, many have worse. What made him the one to be a serial killer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oprah interview with Dahmers dad was interesting. He had a seemingly a typical childhood many could have had. In fact, many have worse. What made him the one to be a serial killer?

Biology. Some people are just messed up.