Dahmer

[Anonymous]

It is well done and disturbing, as it was. I’ve only watched two episodes. Need to take a break, and don’t think I’d watch late at night.

[Anonymous]

I watched it at midnight last night. I ain’t never scared

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

I just finished the series. I’d say it’s about 50% snuff film, 50% condemnation of the system that created Dahmer and allowed the killings to continue. They really delve into police indifference and violence against black and brown communities, discrimination against gay people, the AIDS crisis, mental health for women, domestic violence and emotional abuse, political posturing and the power of police unions, among others. They spend a great deal of time focusing on the stories of his father, mother, victims, and especially on the longterm suffering and continued traumatization of the victim’s families and neighbors. But there are also plenty of voyeuristic, gruesome scenes that can and do override those messages. So just know what you’re getting into. I think parts of this were well done and worth exploring. But they pandered to the true crime audience too much with the gore.

[Anonymous]

Hard pass on this. Hate that they made a show about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

I almost got through the the first episode and then questioned, why am I doing this? I won’t be continuing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this. Hate that they made a show about it.

It’s hardly the first, or the last

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What more do you need to know? He was a disgusting serial killer who preyed on victims for as long as he did because the police are racist. He finally met his well-deserved end in prison from a Black man who isn’t getting a fawning Netflix series made about him. You just find the trauma of families who are still alive and who lost family in a horrific way to be entertaining.

White privileged at its highest. How many encounters with the law and he was let off with a warning. Pulled over by the cops for DUI with bags full of body parts and not even an exit from his car. Sexually molest a thirteen-year old boy and the judge is annoyed to listen to the boy’s father in sentencing phase. Dahmer gets a slap in the hand. He screw up job after job and seems to be able to find another without a problem. Disgusting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What more do you need to know? He was a disgusting serial killer who preyed on victims for as long as he did because the police are racist. He finally met his well-deserved end in prison from a Black man who isn’t getting a fawning Netflix series made about him. You just find the trauma of families who are still alive and who lost family in a horrific way to be entertaining.

One more thing you should know is that one of the police officers who saw Dahmer chasing down a young victim who had escaped and then returned the boy to Dahmer who later killed and ate him, kept his job and became the head of the Milwaukee Police Union.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Balcerzak

He was actually fired, but an arbitration job overturned his termination and ordered back pay. The officer later became union president and eventually retired in 2017.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

Yeah I’m failing to understand why Dahmer is off limits. There are so many dramatizations of horrific real life murders and serial killers. Just in the last year or so off the top of my head…Under the Banner of Heaven, Blackbird, The Staircase, Candy, Dr. Death. Why is Dahmer different?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What difference is there between this and movies shows about the Holocaust? Or movies like Wolf of Wall Street about a guy who inflicted severe financial harm on many people.? Or being entertained by every war movie ever made showing deaths of soldiers? The fact that this makes your skin crawl means acting is good. Many of us were too young to remember all.of the details and haven't gone out of our way to read up on Dahmer.

What’s the difference? For one thing, movies about the Holocaust are frequently about the machine and the everyday people that let an atrocity on that scale happen. Same thing with a guy who tanked markets and ruined people - there’s a political message, it’s still ongoing This stuff? This type of stuff always feels a bit like a snuff film. In a sense, it’s pornographic. You’re watching a program about a guy who killed and ate his victims and tortured them for his own sexual pleasure.

That PP is clearly getting off on the subject matter. Who else would want to watch something the victims families have already said they wish hadn’t been made, about that subject matter? It’s disgusting.

Give me a break. How many people 'get off' on mobster movies and shows about real life people? I literally watched a movie with Michael Shannon who played notorious mafia hitman Richard the Iceman Kuklinski. His kids are still around and so are family members of his victims. No one was outraged when the movie Iceman came out. Or how about Johnny Depp's movie about Whitey Bulger (Black Mass). Were you outraged then when that movie came out because people flocked to theaters to watch a film about a mass murdering psychopath who still has victim families alive today?

The controversy around this show is asinine. It is selective outrage calling for censorship, which is even more outrageous. Art reflects life. Dahmer killings are historical events that have every right to be turned into a show/movie just like every other movie/show about serial killers, mobsters, war, and genocide that has come before it.

Yeah I’m failing to understand why Dahmer is off limits. There are so many dramatizations of horrific real life murders and serial killers. Just in the last year or so off the top of my head…Under the Banner of Heaven, Blackbird, The Staircase, Candy, Dr. Death. Why is Dahmer different?

There has been a pretty big push from a lot of the family members of victims not to make these movies. I know that the kids from the woman killed in All About Pam has been very open about how hurtful the show was. I don't think it is new that families are upset about these movies. I think it is likely new that people are becoming away of how these movies impact victims families.

[Anonymous]

I think the problem is more that there aren’t movies about victims and victims families.