What is up with the vegan hate

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Anonymous wrote:If you accept in invitation to a meat-eating holiday, bring something to eat
Then, I'm fine with you


What about a normal Wednesday or Friday afternoon?
Anonymous
In that case, if I invited you I'll be sure to have things you like to eat
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Inspired by the other thread on having vegans over for thanksgiving:

I’m trying to understand the intensely personal dislike that some people seem to harbor toward vegans.

Is the problem that:
- you dislike it when vegans try to push their lifestyle onto you, or
- you have some problem with the actual diet itself, or
- something else

I write this as a vegan myself, but one who has no issue with others eating meat. You want your burger, eat your burger. Does not matter to me at all. Just as I respect others’ choices, why can they not respect mine?

Why would “they” care what you eat?
How do “they” even know what you eat?
Are *you* making it a big deal?
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I respect yours. Just don't make me have to figure out something to feed your special-snowflake-self.
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Anonymous wrote:I respect yours. Just don't make me have to figure out something to feed your special-snowflake-self.

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People are so weird about vegans. I really don’t understand the hostility and defensiveness.

I am not vegan but have vegan friends and have no issues hosting them.
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Anonymous wrote:People are so weird about vegans. I really don’t understand the hostility and defensiveness.

I am not vegan but have vegan friends and have no issues hosting them.


Me too.
Anonymous
I don't "hate" vegans; however, I refuse to enable them. Someone who is vegan has mental health problems and uses food control as an unhealthy (mentally and physically unhealthy) coping mechanism. I don't ever purposefully enable someone struggling with a mental health problem.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't "hate" vegans; however, I refuse to enable them. Someone who is vegan has mental health problems and uses food control as an unhealthy (mentally and physically unhealthy) coping mechanism. I don't ever purposefully enable someone struggling with a mental health problem.


Who hurt you ?
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Do vegans host and offer meat dishes when their guests eat meat and dairy? Or do you only serve vegan dishes?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it when people act entitled, vegan or otherwise. I’ve hosted many vegan guests who were perfectly gracious and helpful. I also happen to have hosted several vegans who:

1) Preach and preach and try to shame and convert (yes, actually to me in my own home when I am hosting them)
2) Turn up their nose at what is on offer, especially when I have gone out of my way to purchase or prepare it (“vegetarian lasagna with vegan cheese again, it’s like no one knows how to make anything else vegan”)

I don’t categorically dislike vegans. I do categorically dislike rude, entitled people, which sometimes includes vegans.


I usually don't go to people's homes as I am very particular when it comes to food. If I host I ask people what they like vs. just tell them this is what they are eating.


And there you have it. Who wants to host someone so difficult? Fall in or stay home. I’ll be happy to serve vegan options if you tell me you are vegan, but you don’t get to dictate the menu. If you can’t be a gracious guest, stay home.

Gracious, mature vegans are welcome in my home.
Picky, difficult guests—whether they are vegan or not—will not be invited back.


A good host takes food preferences into consideration.


If I ask “any allergies or food restrictions,” usually someone will rather sheepishly say, “it’s not an allergy, but I hate fish.” Or a spouse might say, “Barbara technically can eat pork, but she prefer not to.” That’s helpful information.

That said, most people don’t treat home invitations like a restaurant. And most mature adults—even if they don’t particularly like something—won’t mention it, because that’s not the same level as keeping kosher or being allergic to mushrooms.

I dislike certain foods, but I have never mentioned them when accepting an invitation to someone’s home. Because even if those things are on the table, I can eat them like an adult. I can eat a small portion of the thing I do not like, eat plenty of the rest, and thank my hosts for having me. Because the point of the evening is the company and the time spe nt together. If I get home and find I’m still hungry, I eat a bowl of cereal and I’m off to bed.


Do you say that to guests who are trying to be kosher? Just eat it to be polite?


A person who keeps kosher would never eat anything prepared in your unkoshered kitchen. Don’t use Jewish practices about which you clearly know nothing to score points.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do vegans host and offer meat dishes when their guests eat meat and dairy? Or do you only serve vegan dishes?


I’ve done both. Especially if there is a little kid who only eat hot dogs or other kid food. I will make a bangin filling vegan meal for the adults. Sometimes I get a cheese board or cooked chicken at Wegmans. I prefer not to cook meat in my kitchen though. I’ll prep plate and serve it no problem. I’d use disposable cookware if inspired to cook something non vegan, like a quiche with dairy.
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Anonymous wrote:Do vegans host and offer meat dishes when their guests eat meat and dairy? Or do you only serve vegan dishes?


I’ve done both. Especially if there is a little kid who only eat hot dogs or other kid food. I will make a bangin filling vegan meal for the adults. Sometimes I get a cheese board or cooked chicken at Wegmans. I prefer not to cook meat in my kitchen though. I’ll prep plate and serve it no problem. I’d use disposable cookware if inspired to cook something non vegan, like a quiche with dairy.


Adding I can’t really digest animal products well, prefer vegetarian or vegan. It’s not an ethical thing for me. Though I respect that it can be for others.
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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.


Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.


LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.



Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H


What is there to “chat” about beyond “Where should we go to lunch” and “oh great, I love pizza”? Talking about the food at a restaurant is one thing—because that’s a shared experience. No one really cares if you’re “off carbs at the moment,” like just order your food.


Well good for you. I find other people interesting to listen to. I get that you think them talking is "attention-seeking" because it's not about you. That's a shame. You should try listening to people talk about what they think is interesting or important for a change. You might enjoy it. You might even learn a thing or two. You never know.


No. We find it attention-seeking because it is attention-seeking. If you don’t have more interesting things to talk about yourself than The List Of Things I Don’t Eat And Why, you’re an overgrown adolescent.


I work in a field where more people are vegan than not, and literally no one has these conversations. Though I was at a conference over the summer and there was a vegan restaurant across the street, that was flipping delicious, and yes we talked a lot about how good it is. But seriously this absolutely never comes up unless it's to compare notes about this new product v that one or whatever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it when people act entitled, vegan or otherwise. I’ve hosted many vegan guests who were perfectly gracious and helpful. I also happen to have hosted several vegans who:

1) Preach and preach and try to shame and convert (yes, actually to me in my own home when I am hosting them)
2) Turn up their nose at what is on offer, especially when I have gone out of my way to purchase or prepare it (“vegetarian lasagna with vegan cheese again, it’s like no one knows how to make anything else vegan”)

I don’t categorically dislike vegans. I do categorically dislike rude, entitled people, which sometimes includes vegans.


I have not hosted these specific people (fortunately) but I agree with this -- I have nothing against vegans, only against vegans who are rude guests who criticize other people's eating or cooking choices. I have the same thing against rude vegetarians and omnivores.
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