What is up with the vegan hate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.

LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.

Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

The bolded. They talk about it so much! I come from a vegetarian family and know many vegetarians. None of them do this. It’s only vegans who feel the need to preach, convert and explain that they’re experts.

Maybe like 20 years ago. I don’t see that these days. you’re really working with old material.

Nope. Your anecdotes are not data. It still happens plenty.

Neither are yours. Seriously. Because someone you know talks about the diet it doesn’t mean everyone else orients from the same place. Even if it’s a Keto CrossFit dudebro/lady.

[Anonymous]

My DIL was a vegan and also a total nutjob who made many people miserable regularly, including my son and my grandchildren. She was the first vegan I knew and it colored my view of vegans. I'm getting over that but it's hard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.

LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.

Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H

What is there to “chat” about beyond “Where should we go to lunch” and “oh great, I love pizza”? Talking about the food at a restaurant is one thing—because that’s a shared experience. No one really cares if you’re “off carbs at the moment,” like just order your food.

[Anonymous]

Vegan hate is a lack of imagination. Limited flexibility. Distrust of change or something different than your experience. These age the same people that think sushi is weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DIL was a vegan and also a total nutjob who made many people miserable regularly, including my son and my grandchildren. She was the first vegan I knew and it colored my view of vegans. I'm getting over that but it's hard.

She was a nutjob that happened to also be vegan. Thank you for understanding the nuance. It’s so easy to pile folks together based on one loud individual.

I’m sorry your family had complications. Mental illness is exhausting and devastating.

[Anonymous]

I am convinced that this whole stupid navel gazing thread is the result of vegans being so damn hungry all the time so they distract themselves by wanting to talk about being vegan.

[Anonymous]

DH and I are good cooks who like to cook many different cuisines from scratch. We can accommodate most dietary needs when we host. We almost always include at least one entree and one appetizer that is vegan, dairy free, gluten free and nut free.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it when people act entitled, vegan or otherwise. I’ve hosted many vegan guests who were perfectly gracious and helpful. I also happen to have hosted several vegans who:

1) Preach and preach and try to shame and convert (yes, actually to me in my own home when I am hosting them)
2) Turn up their nose at what is on offer, especially when I have gone out of my way to purchase or prepare it (“vegetarian lasagna with vegan cheese again, it’s like no one knows how to make anything else vegan”)

I don’t categorically dislike vegans. I do categorically dislike rude, entitled people, which sometimes includes vegans.

I usually don't go to people's homes as I am very particular when it comes to food. If I host I ask people what they like vs. just tell them this is what they are eating.

And there you have it. Who wants to host someone so difficult? Fall in or stay home. I’ll be happy to serve vegan options if you tell me you are vegan, but you don’t get to dictate the menu. If you can’t be a gracious guest, stay home.

Gracious, mature vegans are welcome in my home.
Picky, difficult guests—whether they are vegan or not—will not be invited back.

A good host takes food preferences into consideration.

If I ask “any allergies or food restrictions,” usually someone will rather sheepishly say, “it’s not an allergy, but I hate fish.” Or a spouse might say, “Barbara technically can eat pork, but she prefer not to.” That’s helpful information.

That said, most people don’t treat home invitations like a restaurant. And most mature adults—even if they don’t particularly like something—won’t mention it, because that’s not the same level as keeping kosher or being allergic to mushrooms.

I dislike certain foods, but I have never mentioned them when accepting an invitation to someone’s home. Because even if those things are on the table, I can eat them like an adult. I can eat a small portion of the thing I do not like, eat plenty of the rest, and thank my hosts for having me. Because the point of the evening is the company and the time spe nt together. If I get home and find I’m still hungry, I eat a bowl of cereal and I’m off to bed.

Do you say that to guests who are trying to be kosher? Just eat it to be polite?

No, dear. That’s literally the opposite of what I said. I get that you WANT me to have said something else to help you grasp at straws, but do try to what I have actually said, which is:

1) I ask about and respect all food allergies and restrictions
2) If someone also happens to mention an aversion when I ask about allergies/restrictions, fine, I will respect that
3) I make meals that have lots of options
4) If the above considerations are not enough for you, and you are a child who doesn’t like 85 things, blabbers on and on about your dietary preferences or allergies (beyond sharing them so that the host can adequately plan for you) and can’t help but complain or sit staring at the one roll you condescended to eat, then I won’t say a word to you, but you will not be invited back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL was a vegan and also a total nutjob who made many people miserable regularly, including my son and my grandchildren. She was the first vegan I knew and it colored my view of vegans. I'm getting over that but it's hard.

She was a nutjob that happened to also be vegan. Thank you for understanding the nuance. It’s so easy to pile folks together based on one loud individual.

I’m sorry your family had complications. Mental illness is exhausting and devastating.

Oh, the earnestness

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.

LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.

Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H

What is there to “chat” about beyond “Where should we go to lunch” and “oh great, I love pizza”? Talking about the food at a restaurant is one thing—because that’s a shared experience. No one really cares if you’re “off carbs at the moment,” like just order your food.

Well good for you. I find other people interesting to listen to. I get that you think them talking is "attention-seeking" because it's not about you. That's a shame. You should try listening to people talk about what they think is interesting or important for a change. You might enjoy it. You might even learn a thing or two. You never know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am convinced that this whole stupid navel gazing thread is the result of vegans being so damn hungry all the time so they distract themselves by wanting to talk about being vegan.

I’m not vegan and I support the op. The vitriol here is weird and seems like misplaced anger. You see an easy target and just go for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL was a vegan and also a total nutjob who made many people miserable regularly, including my son and my grandchildren. She was the first vegan I knew and it colored my view of vegans. I'm getting over that but it's hard.

She was a nutjob that happened to also be vegan. Thank you for understanding the nuance. It’s so easy to pile folks together based on one loud individual.

I’m sorry your family had complications. Mental illness is exhausting and devastating.

Oh, the earnestness

Yep. Actual nice humans exist. Even here.

[Anonymous]

I do not get vegan hate, but I do get vegan annoyance. As at least one person said, the vegans I know force things to be made vegan and then cheat when they like. My sister used to make my mom make vegan versions of everything and then suck down all the desserts with milk and eggs.

It is also much more difficult to work around. Yes, it can be done, but it often means the person hosting spends a lot of time and money. Worth it if the person is truly vegan, but not worth it if they are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it when people act entitled, vegan or otherwise. I’ve hosted many vegan guests who were perfectly gracious and helpful. I also happen to have hosted several vegans who:

1) Preach and preach and try to shame and convert (yes, actually to me in my own home when I am hosting them)
2) Turn up their nose at what is on offer, especially when I have gone out of my way to purchase or prepare it (“vegetarian lasagna with vegan cheese again, it’s like no one knows how to make anything else vegan”)

I don’t categorically dislike vegans. I do categorically dislike rude, entitled people, which sometimes includes vegans.

I usually don't go to people's homes as I am very particular when it comes to food. If I host I ask people what they like vs. just tell them this is what they are eating.

And there you have it. Who wants to host someone so difficult? Fall in or stay home. I’ll be happy to serve vegan options if you tell me you are vegan, but you don’t get to dictate the menu. If you can’t be a gracious guest, stay home.

Gracious, mature vegans are welcome in my home.
Picky, difficult guests—whether they are vegan or not—will not be invited back.

A good host takes food preferences into consideration.

If I ask “any allergies or food restrictions,” usually someone will rather sheepishly say, “it’s not an allergy, but I hate fish.” Or a spouse might say, “Barbara technically can eat pork, but she prefer not to.” That’s helpful information.

That said, most people don’t treat home invitations like a restaurant. And most mature adults—even if they don’t particularly like something—won’t mention it, because that’s not the same level as keeping kosher or being allergic to mushrooms.

I dislike certain foods, but I have never mentioned them when accepting an invitation to someone’s home. Because even if those things are on the table, I can eat them like an adult. I can eat a small portion of the thing I do not like, eat plenty of the rest, and thank my hosts for having me. Because the point of the evening is the company and the time spe nt together. If I get home and find I’m still hungry, I eat a bowl of cereal and I’m off to bed.

Do you say that to guests who are trying to be kosher? Just eat it to be polite?

I’m not making my house kosher for you. Host your own dinner or bring your own dish. Kosher, vegan, gluten free, nut allergy, seafood allergy, whatever. Don’t complain just don’t eat it if it isn’t up to your standards