What is up with the vegan hate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't "hate" vegans; however, I refuse to enable them. Someone who is vegan has mental health problems and uses food control as an unhealthy (mentally and physically unhealthy) coping mechanism. I don't ever purposefully enable someone struggling with a mental health problem.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything taken to an extreme is a problem. Veganism is an extreme life-style choice. The people who are vegan have established an extreme response to something going on in their lives. It is a mentally and physically unhealthy coping mechanism.

Instead of spending so much time trying to defend your lifestyle choice, you should be investigating why you are making that choice and what you can do to fix the why. Your choice may be related to anxiety, it could be an OCD, it could be something else. Work with a therapist to heal your other issues, and you will find that using food control won't be necessary any more.

Another +1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not hate, and not even high on my list:

Worst Guests Ever:
1. GF “by choice;”
2. Men Who Don’t Cook But Criticize
3. Nightshade Avoiders
4. Keto Devotees
5. Intermittent Fasters who Sit at Table, Don’t Eat, and Talk About Fasting
6. GF by Necessity But Also Avoid Lactose/Soy
7. Midwesterners Who Don’t Do “Spicy;”
8. Midwesterner’s Who Don’t Do “Vegetables;”
9. Guests Who Claim all Foods are “Inflammatory” Yet Eat Flaming Hot Cheetos in Car Out Of Bag;
10. Vegans

Well done, PP! This is awesome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not hate, and not even high on my list:

Worst Guests Ever:
1. GF “by choice;”
2. Men Who Don’t Cook But Criticize
3. Nightshade Avoiders
4. Keto Devotees
5. Intermittent Fasters who Sit at Table, Don’t Eat, and Talk About Fasting
6. GF by Necessity But Also Avoid Lactose/Soy
7. Midwesterners Who Don’t Do “Spicy;”
8. Midwesterner’s Who Don’t Do “Vegetables;”
9. Guests Who Claim all Foods are “Inflammatory” Yet Eat Flaming Hot Cheetos in Car Out Of Bag;
10. Vegans

Well done, PP! This is awesome.

I am with you on all except #3. Some people have to avoid things like tomatoes or potatoes, which fall into the nightshade category. They legitimately cause inflammation for the people who cannot tolerate them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A former Vegan now vegetarian; I used to get the looks whenever I said I was vegan, some people took it well some others kind of told me that I didn’t know what I was missing. I married a wonderful man that loves his meats and I happily cook them for him since I LOVE cooking. He now eats a well balanced diet that includes veggies and clean/lean protein. His family although…old’ good folks will never understand that I do t like meat. My mother-in-law to this day offers me bacon ..I keep reminding her that I don’t eat meat(been telling her this the past 10 years.) I hardly ever accept invitations to eat at friends house not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I have food sensitivities and a GI issue (and I admit, I’m a picky eater.) Nevertheless, if I have a gathering I bring a homemade dish that both my husband and I can eat, and another for folks that don’t have any food intolerance issues. Problem solve. I simply careless what people think about my ‘uniqueness’ diet as some of them call it.

Vegan, vegetarian, “food sensitivities,” “a GI issue,” an admitted picky eater—in other words, you have disordered eating habits and a weird relationship with food. Proving the point.

You are the one with a disordered relationship to food -- everyone else MUST eat the way you do or they have an eating disorder.

Why does anyone care what others eat? I'm sure the host who hates people who are GF or DF would hate it even more if they at what was offered them and then farted throughout the rest of the dinner party, or disappeared for 30 minutes into the bathroom off the dining room. That would certainly be a memorable evening for all involved.

I have no dietary restrictions and I don't hold it against anyone what they eat or what effect their food has on their bowels. I try to accommodate others when planning what to make.

To insist that everyone's body is just like one's own is truly "disordered" -- i.e., "if I don't fart from eating gluten then gluten sensitivity must be a hoax" -- and I'm sure this way of looking at others colors every single relationship these "diet restriction" haters have, in myriad ways. Of course, they don't see that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything taken to an extreme is a problem. Veganism is an extreme life-style choice. The people who are vegan have established an extreme response to something going on in their lives. It is a mentally and physically unhealthy coping mechanism.

Instead of spending so much time trying to defend your lifestyle choice, you should be investigating why you are making that choice and what you can do to fix the why. Your choice may be related to anxiety, it could be an OCD, it could be something else. Work with a therapist to heal your other issues, and you will find that using food control won't be necessary any more.

But your way of eating might seem extreme to a vegan.

Are they justified in thinking that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything taken to an extreme is a problem. Veganism is an extreme life-style choice. The people who are vegan have established an extreme response to something going on in their lives. It is a mentally and physically unhealthy coping mechanism.

Instead of spending so much time trying to defend your lifestyle choice, you should be investigating why you are making that choice and what you can do to fix the why. Your choice may be related to anxiety, it could be an OCD, it could be something else. Work with a therapist to heal your other issues, and you will find that using food control won't be necessary any more.

It is quite OCD and anxious to spend so much effort trying to cancel out other people's life choices, and to only value in others what you yourself think and feel is worthwhile. That must be exhausting. You would free up a lot of energy if you learned to accept that the world is made up of a huge variety of people, and many of them value things that you don't -- and that's okay. They don't value what you value, either, and they're probably not spending their time fuming about your choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not hate, and not even high on my list:

Worst Guests Ever:
1. GF “by choice;”
2. Men Who Don’t Cook But Criticize
3. Nightshade Avoiders
4. Keto Devotees
5. Intermittent Fasters who Sit at Table, Don’t Eat, and Talk About Fasting
6. GF by Necessity But Also Avoid Lactose/Soy
7. Midwesterners Who Don’t Do “Spicy;”
8. Midwesterner’s Who Don’t Do “Vegetables;”
9. Guests Who Claim all Foods are “Inflammatory” Yet Eat Flaming Hot Cheetos in Car Out Of Bag;
10. Vegans

Well done, PP! This is awesome.

I am with you on all except #3. Some people have to avoid things like tomatoes or potatoes, which fall into the nightshade category. They legitimately cause inflammation for the people who cannot tolerate them.

Oh, sure, only support people in the No 3 category -- because that's the one you are informed about. Everyone else is being ridiculous.

Can you not see how absurd your judgement is? You actually judge people for not liking spicy food???? That is actual insanity.

[Anonymous]

PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything taken to an extreme is a problem. Veganism is an extreme life-style choice. The people who are vegan have established an extreme response to something going on in their lives. It is a mentally and physically unhealthy coping mechanism.

Instead of spending so much time trying to defend your lifestyle choice, you should be investigating why you are making that choice and what you can do to fix the why. Your choice may be related to anxiety, it could be an OCD, it could be something else. Work with a therapist to heal your other issues, and you will find that using food control won't be necessary any more.

It is quite OCD and anxious to spend so much effort trying to cancel out other people's life choices, and to only value in others what you yourself think and feel is worthwhile. That must be exhausting. You would free up a lot of energy if you learned to accept that the world is made up of a huge variety of people, and many of them value things that you don't -- and that's okay. They don't value what you value, either, and they're probably not spending their time fuming about your choices.

You could say the same thing to the preachy vegan/vegetarian/gluten free/whatever crowd. Eat whatever you want, just don’t talk about it, preach about it, or assume people will accommodate you. Barring serious medical issues, adults should be able to politely find something to eat at any table.

[Anonymous]

My problem isn't with vegans, it's with vegan food. I'm not going to buy fake cheese chock full of preservatives and chemicals. There's no nutritional value in that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A former Vegan now vegetarian; I used to get the looks whenever I said I was vegan, some people took it well some others kind of told me that I didn’t know what I was missing. I married a wonderful man that loves his meats and I happily cook them for him since I LOVE cooking. He now eats a well balanced diet that includes veggies and clean/lean protein. His family although…old’ good folks will never understand that I do t like meat. My mother-in-law to this day offers me bacon ..I keep reminding her that I don’t eat meat(been telling her this the past 10 years.) I hardly ever accept invitations to eat at friends house not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I have food sensitivities and a GI issue (and I admit, I’m a picky eater.) Nevertheless, if I have a gathering I bring a homemade dish that both my husband and I can eat, and another for folks that don’t have any food intolerance issues. Problem solve. I simply careless what people think about my ‘uniqueness’ diet as some of them call it.

Vegan, vegetarian, “food sensitivities,” “a GI issue,” an admitted picky eater—in other words, you have disordered eating habits and a weird relationship with food. Proving the point.

You are the one with a disordered relationship to food -- everyone else MUST eat the way you do or they have an eating disorder.

Why does anyone care what others eat? I'm sure the host who hates people who are GF or DF would hate it even more if they at what was offered them and then farted throughout the rest of the dinner party, or disappeared for 30 minutes into the bathroom off the dining room. That would certainly be a memorable evening for all involved.

I have no dietary restrictions and I don't hold it against anyone what they eat or what effect their food has on their bowels. I try to accommodate others when planning what to make.

To insist that everyone's body is just like one's own is truly "disordered" -- i.e., "if I don't fart from eating gluten then gluten sensitivity must be a hoax" -- and I'm sure this way of looking at others colors every single relationship these "diet restriction" haters have, in myriad ways. Of course, they don't see that.

Yes it's very controlling behavior. All the vegan bashing on this thread from folks who clearly don't self-reflect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: My problem isn't with vegans, it's with vegan food. I'm not going to buy fake cheese chock full of preservatives and chemicals. There's no nutritional value in that.

I’m always curious about vegans who eat nutritional yeast. If you won’t eat honey because bees make it, why are you eating dead yeast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I missed the Thanksgiving post but I love to cook and we have a couple vegetarian and vegans in the family and I always accommodate them.

What’s super frustrating is every time I’m around them through eating non-vegan and non-vegetarian food.

They make comments like well I only cheat for almond croissants for every once in a while I just need a hamburger.

So I think to myself why do I have to jump through hoops to make Thanksgiving vegan why not just choose that day to not be vegan.

I’ve never really said anything to them.

I don’t think I would be willing to accommodate a “vegan” who occasionally needs a hamburger. Is still do vegetarian, but if you sometimes eat a full on hunk of cow, I’m not making my thanksgiving mashed potatoes with no butter or cream. Sorry. One of my siblings is a vegetarian who never cheats and was vegan for about two years but always insisted she could bri g her own food and not to worry about her when she was vegan. As a vegetarian she says, I’ll eat what I can of anything and otherwise eat when I get home. Don’t plan around me. Of course we always make sure to have vegetarian options, but that’s much easier than vegan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: My problem isn't with vegans, it's with vegan food. I'm not going to buy fake cheese chock full of preservatives and chemicals. There's no nutritional value in that.

I'm not vegan. There's not a lot I don't eat. But there is plenty of vegan food that is chock full of vitamins and minerals. You don't have to choose the vegan cheese.