What is up with the vegan hate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

I'm in my 50s and I eat absolutely everything. That is my downfall -- I love food. I also don't hate vegans or anyone else for whatever reason they avoid certain foods. I don't hold it against them for not being exactly like me.

I'm curious why you think someone posting a different opinion than yours should be silenced. Oh wait, no, that fits your pattern perfectly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

You first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think vegans really can’t win. If someone ears meat as a guest, they’re not committed to their vegan lifestyle and are therefore fake. But if they tell the host that they’re vegan, they are being high maintenance. If they eat before they come in case there is nothing vegan available, they get accused of being ungrateful for the invitation. Y’all basically just don’t want people to be vegan, period.

There is zero justification for this. You are generalizing to all vegans the sh*tty behavior of individuals within a group. There are plenty - probably billions - of vegans out there. I doubt that they are all eating disordered narcissists who make everything all about them. I know a lot of vegans that are not like that. You cannot make broad generalizations about all vegans behaving this way any more than I can about no vegans behaving this way. I know plenty of those vegans. But that’s not the whole spread.

There are definitely not “billions” of vegans in the world. You think that more than 20% of the world’s population is vegan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

I'm in my 50s and I eat absolutely everything. That is my downfall -- I love food. I also don't hate vegans or anyone else for whatever reason they avoid certain foods. I don't hold it against them for not being exactly like me.

I'm curious why you think someone posting a different opinion than yours should be silenced. Oh wait, no, that fits your pattern perfectly.

Sigh. My post clearly isn't directed at you unless you are the person posting repeatedly promoting veganism with no material fact and calling other poster names. Please do your best to try to help this poor person who so clearly needs it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

I'm in my 50s and I eat absolutely everything. That is my downfall -- I love food. I also don't hate vegans or anyone else for whatever reason they avoid certain foods. I don't hold it against them for not being exactly like me.

I'm curious why you think someone posting a different opinion than yours should be silenced. Oh wait, no, that fits your pattern perfectly.

Sigh. My post clearly isn't directed at you unless you are the person posting repeatedly promoting veganism with no material fact and calling other poster names. Please do your best to try to help this poor person who so clearly needs it.

There are many people posting. I was the "PP" directly above your post referring to "PP."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

I don’t wear leather. But I also don’t judge your choices if you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Eggs, butter and milk do not come from murdered animals.

Vegetarians I can and will accommodate. Vegans I do not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

I don’t wear leather. But I also don’t judge your choices if you do.

Question: what is the interior of your car made of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Yet when you walk on the sidewalk, you walk on and kill ants. When you walk in the grass or in the forest, you also walk on and kill ants and other small animals. When you swat at a mosquito, you kill it. When you swat a fly, you kill it. All of these are animals that you knowingly kill. Being vegan isn't keeping you from killing animals at all ...

Something to think about.

[Anonymous]

When I have a vegan over, there will be salad, a main dinner with a carb and 2 veggies - possibly even something like a terrine or mushroom bourguignon - and a fruit crisp (with coconut oil).
If I have a vegan to a larger dinner party, they will be able to fill their plate with a side and 2 veggies that don't have butter, plus salad and some kind of fruit dessert.
It may not be lifechanging vegan fare, but you will enjoy good company and not go home hungry.

Problems arise, for example, when you do not disclose your vegan-ness and then complain that there is cheese in the salad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Yet when you walk on the sidewalk, you walk on and kill ants. When you walk in the grass or in the forest, you also walk on and kill ants and other small animals. When you swat at a mosquito, you kill it. When you swat a fly, you kill it. All of these are animals that you knowingly kill. Being vegan isn't keeping you from killing animals at all ...

Something to think about.

Sure so become a Jain. Otherwise what you are saying is irrelevant.