What is up with the vegan hate

[Anonymous]

I am not vegan but I think it's evolutionary wise to reduce our consumption of meat and other animal products. The level of defensiveness just shows that we are uneasy with the topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not vegan but I think it's evolutionary wise to reduce our consumption of meat and other animal products. The level of defensiveness just shows that we are uneasy with the topic.

It’s 1 day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not vegan but I think it's evolutionary wise to reduce our consumption of meat and other animal products. The level of defensiveness just shows that we are uneasy with the topic.

Reduce is fine. In my family, we essentially flip “Meatless Monday” and only eat meat about once a week. That said, I assume everyone is a grownup who can do their own research and make their own choices. Preaching doesn’t move the needle on anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

The bolded. They talk about it so much! I come from a vegetarian family and know many vegetarians. None of them do this. It’s only vegans who feel the need to preach, convert and explain that they’re experts.

Maybe like 20 years ago. I don’t see that these days. you’re really working with old material.

Nope. Your anecdotes are not data. It still happens plenty.

Neither are yours. Seriously. Because someone you know talks about the diet it doesn’t mean everyone else orients from the same place. Even if it’s a Keto CrossFit dudebro/lady.

Neat. Well, way more people talk about hearing sanctimonious, preachy vegans than don’t. It’s a trope for a reason. Shrug.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.

LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.

Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H

What is there to “chat” about beyond “Where should we go to lunch” and “oh great, I love pizza”? Talking about the food at a restaurant is one thing—because that’s a shared experience. No one really cares if you’re “off carbs at the moment,” like just order your food.

But then how would they get that sweet, sweet attention?

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.

LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.

Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H

What is there to “chat” about beyond “Where should we go to lunch” and “oh great, I love pizza”? Talking about the food at a restaurant is one thing—because that’s a shared experience. No one really cares if you’re “off carbs at the moment,” like just order your food.

Well good for you. I find other people interesting to listen to. I get that you think them talking is "attention-seeking" because it's not about you. That's a shame. You should try listening to people talk about what they think is interesting or important for a change. You might enjoy it. You might even learn a thing or two. You never know.

No. We find it attention-seeking because it is attention-seeking. If you don’t have more interesting things to talk about yourself than The List Of Things I Don’t Eat And Why, you’re an overgrown adolescent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are preachy.

The old joke: "How do you know a person is vegan?" A: "Don't worry, theyll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them."

I know cool vegans too. They don't talk about their eating lifestyle, just like I don't talk about mine.

Why not? What's the big secret? Food and diet are interesting subjects for people who are into food and not threatened by others.

LOL, nope! I don’t care whether it’s vegan or an “I’m such a steak and potatoes guy, what’s with all this weird stuff” dude like my dad, no one actually cares what you eat, or don’t eat, or why, or how much weight you lost or gained or want to lose or gain, etc. “Ketchup is a Karb Keto Kevin” is like everyone’s most dreaded co-worker. Both “I’m a vegan and I can’t imagggginnnneeeee eating meat” gal and “I can’t imaggginnnneeeeee not eating meat” guy are both equally owannoying people.

Talking about what you eat or don’t eat, like anyone actually gives a shyt, is attention-seeking behavior.

Weird. How is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? Or any different than any other subject? I really don't get it. I don't care what other people eat -- it doesn't affect me at all -- so why wouldn't I be able to politely chat about their diet? It's no different than chatting about the weather (to me at least; obviously it's some kind of trigger for you...).

That's weird. Why is talking about what you eat attention-seeking behavior? H

What is there to “chat” about beyond “Where should we go to lunch” and “oh great, I love pizza”? Talking about the food at a restaurant is one thing—because that’s a shared experience. No one really cares if you’re “off carbs at the moment,” like just order your food.

Well good for you. I find other people interesting to listen to. I get that you think them talking is "attention-seeking" because it's not about you. That's a shame. You should try listening to people talk about what they think is interesting or important for a change. You might enjoy it. You might even learn a thing or two. You never know.

No. We find it attention-seeking because it is attention-seeking. If you don’t have more interesting things to talk about yourself than The List Of Things I Don’t Eat And Why, you’re an overgrown adolescent.

I'm not a vegan. But I certainly wouldn't think it was "attention-seeking" for someone else who is to talk about it.

Face it, you are a narcissist. If someone isn't just like you, they bore you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it when people act entitled, vegan or otherwise. I’ve hosted many vegan guests who were perfectly gracious and helpful. I also happen to have hosted several vegans who:

1) Preach and preach and try to shame and convert (yes, actually to me in my own home when I am hosting them)
2) Turn up their nose at what is on offer, especially when I have gone out of my way to purchase or prepare it (“vegetarian lasagna with vegan cheese again, it’s like no one knows how to make anything else vegan”)

I don’t categorically dislike vegans. I do categorically dislike rude, entitled people, which sometimes includes vegans.

I usually don't go to people's homes as I am very particular when it comes to food. If I host I ask people what they like vs. just tell them this is what they are eating.

And there you have it. Who wants to host someone so difficult? Fall in or stay home. I’ll be happy to serve vegan options if you tell me you are vegan, but you don’t get to dictate the menu. If you can’t be a gracious guest, stay home.

Gracious, mature vegans are welcome in my home.
Picky, difficult guests—whether they are vegan or not—will not be invited back.

A good host takes food preferences into consideration.

If I ask “any allergies or food restrictions,” usually someone will rather sheepishly say, “it’s not an allergy, but I hate fish.” Or a spouse might say, “Barbara technically can eat pork, but she prefer not to.” That’s helpful information.

That said, most people don’t treat home invitations like a restaurant. And most mature adults—even if they don’t particularly like something—won’t mention it, because that’s not the same level as keeping kosher or being allergic to mushrooms.

I dislike certain foods, but I have never mentioned them when accepting an invitation to someone’s home. Because even if those things are on the table, I can eat them like an adult. I can eat a small portion of the thing I do not like, eat plenty of the rest, and thank my hosts for having me. Because the point of the evening is the company and the time spe nt together. If I get home and find I’m still hungry, I eat a bowl of cereal and I’m off to bed.

Do you say that to guests who are trying to be kosher? Just eat it to be polite?

I’m not making my house kosher for you. Host your own dinner or bring your own dish. Kosher, vegan, gluten free, nut allergy, seafood allergy, whatever. Don’t complain just don’t eat it if it isn’t up to your standards

I'm not kosher. I'm not even Jewish. I was just wondering if you would be as condescending of someone's dietary "choices" if they were kosher as you are if they are vegan. The answer is a resounding "yes."

You should stop pretending you are a good host. You suck at it.

[Anonymous]

I think people here get especially crazy about this topic. See above where someone is actively refusing to respect everything from keeping kosher to (potentially life threatening) allergies.

There is no other food decision that triggers this kind of ire. People on this board literally brag about how much they hate vegans across the board, how stupid and/or mentally ill l they are, etc. It is completely ridiculous and I really haven’t seen it anywhere else like this.

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Everyone just put on their coats and trooped over to this thread. It's like the after party of the thanksgiving thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it when people act entitled, vegan or otherwise. I’ve hosted many vegan guests who were perfectly gracious and helpful. I also happen to have hosted several vegans who:

1) Preach and preach and try to shame and convert (yes, actually to me in my own home when I am hosting them)
2) Turn up their nose at what is on offer, especially when I have gone out of my way to purchase or prepare it (“vegetarian lasagna with vegan cheese again, it’s like no one knows how to make anything else vegan”)

I don’t categorically dislike vegans. I do categorically dislike rude, entitled people, which sometimes includes vegans.

I usually don't go to people's homes as I am very particular when it comes to food. If I host I ask people what they like vs. just tell them this is what they are eating.

And there you have it. Who wants to host someone so difficult? Fall in or stay home. I’ll be happy to serve vegan options if you tell me you are vegan, but you don’t get to dictate the menu. If you can’t be a gracious guest, stay home.

Gracious, mature vegans are welcome in my home.
Picky, difficult guests—whether they are vegan or not—will not be invited back.

A good host takes food preferences into consideration.

If I ask “any allergies or food restrictions,” usually someone will rather sheepishly say, “it’s not an allergy, but I hate fish.” Or a spouse might say, “Barbara technically can eat pork, but she prefer not to.” That’s helpful information.

That said, most people don’t treat home invitations like a restaurant. And most mature adults—even if they don’t particularly like something—won’t mention it, because that’s not the same level as keeping kosher or being allergic to mushrooms.

I dislike certain foods, but I have never mentioned them when accepting an invitation to someone’s home. Because even if those things are on the table, I can eat them like an adult. I can eat a small portion of the thing I do not like, eat plenty of the rest, and thank my hosts for having me. Because the point of the evening is the company and the time spe nt together. If I get home and find I’m still hungry, I eat a bowl of cereal and I’m off to bed.

Do you say that to guests who are trying to be kosher? Just eat it to be polite?

I’m not making my house kosher for you. Host your own dinner or bring your own dish. Kosher, vegan, gluten free, nut allergy, seafood allergy, whatever. Don’t complain just don’t eat it if it isn’t up to your standards

I'm not kosher. I'm not even Jewish. I was just wondering if you would be as condescending of someone's dietary "choices" if they were kosher as you are if they are vegan. The answer is a resounding "yes."

You should stop pretending you are a good host. You suck at it.

Slow clap that you don’t even realize you are responding to more than one poster.

[Anonymous]

My cousin was vegetarian and is now vegan, but not for any reasons other than she likes to tell people that, near as I can tell. We were going to an engagement party, and she called up the bride-to-be, told her she’s vegan/GF and that she wanted to be sure there would be something there for her to eat (we don’t know these people; we’re on the groom-to-be’s side). The girl was apparently running around on the morning of, to make sure she was accommodated (all the food was vegetarian). Then my cousin proceeded to eat all the food anyway, not just the vegan/GF stuff.

This sort of nonsense is fairly typical of vegans I have known. The food I cook at home is generally vegan friendly anyway, so I’m never put out by these requests, and they seem almost … disappointed that I’m not hassled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone just put on their coats and trooped over to this thread. It's like the after party of the thanksgiving thread.

As OP fully intended—what with being an attention-seeking vegan and all!

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone just put on their coats and trooped over to this thread. It's like the after party of the thanksgiving thread.

Yup. There’s not a chance for an actual lucid conversation. I’m sure pie lady has ubered over by now too.

[Anonymous]

If you accept in invitation to a meat-eating holiday, bring something to eat
Then, I'm fine with you