What is up with the vegan hate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

This is how we all know you are having a personal problem with someone. Were you dumped by a vegan? It's coming through loud and clear. But you are wrong about everything. Vegans don't cheat with food, they don't wear leather. Sorry- you are just angry. This isn't about food.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

I'm in my 50s and I eat absolutely everything. That is my downfall -- I love food. I also don't hate vegans or anyone else for whatever reason they avoid certain foods. I don't hold it against them for not being exactly like me.

I'm curious why you think someone posting a different opinion than yours should be silenced. Oh wait, no, that fits your pattern perfectly.

Sigh. My post clearly isn't directed at you unless you are the person posting repeatedly promoting veganism with no material fact and calling other poster names. Please do your best to try to help this poor person who so clearly needs it.

Are you confused? The troll here is the vegan hater. Clearly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not hate, and not even high on my list:

Worst Guests Ever:
1. GF “by choice;”
2. Men Who Don’t Cook But Criticize
3. Nightshade Avoiders
4. Keto Devotees
5. Intermittent Fasters who Sit at Table, Don’t Eat, and Talk About Fasting
6. GF by Necessity But Also Avoid Lactose/Soy
7. Midwesterners Who Don’t Do “Spicy;”
8. Midwesterner’s Who Don’t Do “Vegetables;”
9. Guests Who Claim all Foods are “Inflammatory” Yet Eat Flaming Hot Cheetos in Car Out Of Bag;
10. Vegans

Well done, PP! This is awesome.

I am with you on all except #3. Some people have to avoid things like tomatoes or potatoes, which fall into the nightshade category. They legitimately cause inflammation for the people who cannot tolerate them.

Then you shouldn’t be with them on #7, either.
- my mouth loves spicy, my ulcers say “go eff yourself.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Yet when you walk on the sidewalk, you walk on and kill ants. When you walk in the grass or in the forest, you also walk on and kill ants and other small animals. When you swat at a mosquito, you kill it. When you swat a fly, you kill it. All of these are animals that you knowingly kill. Being vegan isn't keeping you from killing animals at all ...

Something to think about.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

I'm in my 50s and I eat absolutely everything. That is my downfall -- I love food. I also don't hate vegans or anyone else for whatever reason they avoid certain foods. I don't hold it against them for not being exactly like me.

I'm curious why you think someone posting a different opinion than yours should be silenced. Oh wait, no, that fits your pattern perfectly.

Sigh. My post clearly isn't directed at you unless you are the person posting repeatedly promoting veganism with no material fact and calling other poster names. Please do your best to try to help this poor person who so clearly needs it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you need to take a break from this thread and possibly DCUM. We get it. You're young and you're vegan. However, you are spending way too much time on this. Please tell your parents and/or your therapist about your current fixation. Ask them to help you so that you can reorient to a better habit instead of continuously posting here. It isn't doing you any good and is actually causing you to entrench.

I'm in my 50s and I eat absolutely everything. That is my downfall -- I love food. I also don't hate vegans or anyone else for whatever reason they avoid certain foods. I don't hold it against them for not being exactly like me.

I'm curious why you think someone posting a different opinion than yours should be silenced. Oh wait, no, that fits your pattern perfectly.

Sigh. My post clearly isn't directed at you unless you are the person posting repeatedly promoting veganism with no material fact and calling other poster names. Please do your best to try to help this poor person who so clearly needs it.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

I don’t wear leather. But I also don’t judge your choices if you do.

Question: what is the interior of your car made of?

Er, fabric? What’s with the intense need to find a “gotcha” here? I do my best (and am actually vegetarian not vegan) but no one is perfect. What is your problem with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Yet when you walk on the sidewalk, you walk on and kill ants. When you walk in the grass or in the forest, you also walk on and kill ants and other small animals. When you swat at a mosquito, you kill it. When you swat a fly, you kill it. All of these are animals that you knowingly kill. Being vegan isn't keeping you from killing animals at all ...

Something to think about.

+1

I do my best to catch and release bugs inside the house.

You’re right that it’s not perfect. But it seems your point is that if you cannot stop from killing any living thing you shouldn’t try at all? I’m not sure what your point is anymore other than a weird thought experiment.

[Anonymous]

I eat mostly vegetables but I don't use the word vegan. I never do. I don't use this word often.
I rather hear people say they are vegan for a good reason, like an allergy or something, not because they hate to hurt the animal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I eat mostly vegetables but I don't use the word vegan. I never do. I don't use this word often.
I rather hear people say they are vegan for a good reason, like an allergy or something, not because they hate to hurt the animal.

Huh? Not wanting to hurt an animal is a valid reason. Who is allergic to meat?

Another kook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I eat mostly vegetables but I don't use the word vegan. I never do. I don't use this word often.
I rather hear people say they are vegan for a good reason, like an allergy or something, not because they hate to hurt the animal.

Huh? Not wanting to hurt an animal is a valid reason. Who is allergic to meat?

Another kook.

It’s real.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alpha-gal-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20428608

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

I don’t wear leather. But I also don’t judge your choices if you do.

Question: what is the interior of your car made of?

Er, fabric? What’s with the intense need to find a “gotcha” here? I do my best (and am actually vegetarian not vegan) but no one is perfect. What is your problem with that?

Just wondering. Most cars have leather interiors these days. In fact, you have to hunt to find a car with seats and interiors that aren't made with interiors. I just find it interesting that you claim to support veganism because it doesn't involve the killing of animals yet you drive a vehicle that has an interior made with leather (even if your seats are cloth, the console and other areas are wrapped in leather). It seems very ... paradoxical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Yet when you walk on the sidewalk, you walk on and kill ants. When you walk in the grass or in the forest, you also walk on and kill ants and other small animals. When you swat at a mosquito, you kill it. When you swat a fly, you kill it. All of these are animals that you knowingly kill. Being vegan isn't keeping you from killing animals at all ...

Something to think about.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake!

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.

And it is completely wrong. Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan. Jesus himself was a carnivore. He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough.

Nice shoes.
Nice belt.
Nice handbag.

Have a great day.

I don’t wear leather. But I also don’t judge your choices if you do.

Question: what is the interior of your car made of?

Er, fabric? What’s with the intense need to find a “gotcha” here? I do my best (and am actually vegetarian not vegan) but no one is perfect. What is your problem with that?

Just wondering. Most cars have leather interiors these days. In fact, you have to hunt to find a car with seats and interiors that aren't made with interiors. I just find it interesting that you claim to support veganism because it doesn't involve the killing of animals yet you drive a vehicle that has an interior made with leather (even if your seats are cloth, the console and other areas are wrapped in leather). It seems very ... paradoxical.

+1. Anyone preaching about killing animals had better damn well not have ANY leather in their life—car (yes, steering wheel and console), shoes, accessories. Good luck with that.