Why do staunch republicans hate electric vehicles?

[Anonymous]

Culture wars. I’ve seen republicans attack Amtrak because they think trains are “socialist.”

[Anonymous]

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We have solar panels and are self sufficient for electricity plus sending power back to the grid. If we get an EV, it will be powered by the sun.

But there’s the rub - the solar power your EV is using to get charged up could instead be going to the grid, where it would help everyone - IF - you didn’t have a car at all.

But you justify having a car because you think “sunshine is free”.

It’s not. By producing and using solar for your own purposes, you’re evading paying taxes on the power you would’ve otherwise had to purchase from a utility. Meaning you’re cheating the government - and all of us. And by using that power your solar panels created for your own uses, you’re denying that power to everyone else. And an equivalent amount of KW energy must then be produced by power plants - or other renewable sources - to make up for the KW’s that you diverted for your own use.

WTF kind of weird logic is that? No, using my own electricity is not “denying power to everyone else”. Where in the world do you get brainwashed like that?

By using electricity from the grid you are the one hurting all of us by contributing to global warming. Period.

If you have a personal solar array and are unconnected to the grid and use that solar power for your own personal uses, then you are evading paying the use-tax on the KWs you’re consuming that would otherwise be purchased from the grid and taxes paid on. It’s essentially stealing solar power. Or at the very least bootlegging solar power, because you aren’t paying taxes on it as you use it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give me a 5 minute charging station or battery change at every rest stop, and I might consider it. I have no interest in making the trip to Massachusetts 1-2 hours longer and/or running out of battery on I-95 in traffic.

Mosy likely it takes you more than 5 minutes to get gas, go to the bathroom, and grab a drink, right? Most people stop for 10-15 minutes when traveling. Not sure why you'd hold EVs to a higher standard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Give me a 5 minute charging station or battery change at every rest stop, and I might consider it. I have no interest in making the trip to Massachusetts 1-2 hours longer and/or running out of battery on I-95 in traffic.

Mosy likely it takes you more than 5 minutes to get gas, go to the bathroom, and grab a drink, right? Most people stop for 10-15 minutes when traveling. Not sure why you'd hold EVs to a higher standard.

Funny, I just took a rental ICE from DC to Cape Cod a couple weeks ago, met up with my wife who had already been up there for a few days, and drove our EV home. I timed both trips exactly because I was curious as to what the real world difference was. Way up, 9.5 hours. Way back, 10 hours. Wow, a whopping 30 minutes of actual difference, what a horrible inconvenience!

[Anonymous]

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We have solar panels and are self sufficient for electricity plus sending power back to the grid. If we get an EV, it will be powered by the sun.

But there’s the rub - the solar power your EV is using to get charged up could instead be going to the grid, where it would help everyone - IF - you didn’t have a car at all.

But you justify having a car because you think “sunshine is free”.

It’s not. By producing and using solar for your own purposes, you’re evading paying taxes on the power you would’ve otherwise had to purchase from a utility. Meaning you’re cheating the government - and all of us. And by using that power your solar panels created for your own uses, you’re denying that power to everyone else. And an equivalent amount of KW energy must then be produced by power plants - or other renewable sources - to make up for the KW’s that you diverted for your own use.

WTF kind of weird logic is that? No, using my own electricity is not “denying power to everyone else”. Where in the world do you get brainwashed like that?

By using electricity from the grid you are the one hurting all of us by contributing to global warming. Period.

If you have a personal solar array and are unconnected to the grid and use that solar power for your own personal uses, then you are evading paying the use-tax on the KWs you’re consuming that would otherwise be purchased from the grid and taxes paid on. It’s essentially stealing solar power. Or at the very least bootlegging solar power, because you aren’t paying taxes on it as you use it.

Seriously, your logic is twisted. Following your logic then not buying a can of soda and drinking water instead deprives the state of sales tax. WTF.

[Anonymous]

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Oh look, I can cherry pick biased examples too!





(And yes I know it was not on its original battery, but the original battery lasted 290,000km and was replaced FOR FREE under warranty.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We have solar panels and are self sufficient for electricity plus sending power back to the grid. If we get an EV, it will be powered by the sun.

But there’s the rub - the solar power your EV is using to get charged up could instead be going to the grid, where it would help everyone - IF - you didn’t have a car at all.

But you justify having a car because you think “sunshine is free”.

It’s not. By producing and using solar for your own purposes, you’re evading paying taxes on the power you would’ve otherwise had to purchase from a utility. Meaning you’re cheating the government - and all of us. And by using that power your solar panels created for your own uses, you’re denying that power to everyone else. And an equivalent amount of KW energy must then be produced by power plants - or other renewable sources - to make up for the KW’s that you diverted for your own use.

WTF kind of weird logic is that? No, using my own electricity is not “denying power to everyone else”. Where in the world do you get brainwashed like that?

By using electricity from the grid you are the one hurting all of us by contributing to global warming. Period.

If you have a personal solar array and are unconnected to the grid and use that solar power for your own personal uses, then you are evading paying the use-tax on the KWs you’re consuming that would otherwise be purchased from the grid and taxes paid on. It’s essentially stealing solar power. Or at the very least bootlegging solar power, because you aren’t paying taxes on it as you use it.

Yes exactly.

Home-solar collection is a form of theft.

Sunlight belongs to everyone; not just selfish individuals who refuse to share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We have solar panels and are self sufficient for electricity plus sending power back to the grid. If we get an EV, it will be powered by the sun.

But there’s the rub - the solar power your EV is using to get charged up could instead be going to the grid, where it would help everyone - IF - you didn’t have a car at all.

But you justify having a car because you think “sunshine is free”.

It’s not. By producing and using solar for your own purposes, you’re evading paying taxes on the power you would’ve otherwise had to purchase from a utility. Meaning you’re cheating the government - and all of us. And by using that power your solar panels created for your own uses, you’re denying that power to everyone else. And an equivalent amount of KW energy must then be produced by power plants - or other renewable sources - to make up for the KW’s that you diverted for your own use.

WTF kind of weird logic is that? No, using my own electricity is not “denying power to everyone else”. Where in the world do you get brainwashed like that?

By using electricity from the grid you are the one hurting all of us by contributing to global warming. Period.

If you have a personal solar array and are unconnected to the grid and use that solar power for your own personal uses, then you are evading paying the use-tax on the KWs you’re consuming that would otherwise be purchased from the grid and taxes paid on. It’s essentially stealing solar power. Or at the very least bootlegging solar power, because you aren’t paying taxes on it as you use it.

Da fuq?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give me a 5 minute charging station or battery change at every rest stop, and I might consider it. I have no interest in making the trip to Massachusetts 1-2 hours longer and/or running out of battery on I-95 in traffic.

Mosy likely it takes you more than 5 minutes to get gas, go to the bathroom, and grab a drink, right? Most people stop for 10-15 minutes when traveling. Not sure why you'd hold EVs to a higher standard.

"Tesla superchargers charge up to 200 miles of range per 15 minutes"

So if I get their SUV, to fully charge, it's about 25-30 minutes. I don't stop that long at any point.

[Anonymous]

Be cause FREE-DUMBS!!!!!

They hated when the Obama admin wanted to keep the car industry alive and paid money to get rid of wasteful junkheaps. Off-road Jeep users are still bent out of shape seeing old CJs get scrapped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:California admits it’s all stupidity

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/experts-say-significant-grid-investments-needed-to-phase-out-gas-powered-vehicles-in-california/?taid=630815085b2a660001ad49f1

So according to this article it is not possible to switch to all electric.

How many hydrogen cars exist today?

How does the safety of hydrogen and electric vehicles in crashes compare with standard cars? What is the fire risk? How many home fires have been caused by cars charging in garages?

Where does the electricity come to produce the hydrogen or charge the vehicles? Coal?

Wow that information is easily found.

US electrical power generation by sources

20% renewables
20% nuclear
40% natural gas
20% coal
1% petroleum.

So electric cars start with a 40% carbon free power. Natural gas is 1/2 of coal emissions. Just there you reduce carbon emissions by 60% by using the grid. Now add in that EV are usually charged at night when the electrical grid has excess capacity- ie the plants have to continue to operate but the power is not used and you start getting close to a 90% reduction in emissions vs a gas powered car.

Now California electrical grid is even more carbon reducing friendly - 2% use of coal, 33% renewables.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Be cause FREE-DUMBS!!!!!

They hated when the Obama admin wanted to keep the car industry alive and paid money to get rid of wasteful junkheaps. Off-road Jeep users are still bent out of shape seeing old CJs get scrapped.

The off road EV’s are a lot better vs the old jeeps.

[Anonymous]

How is the vast majority of electricity produced ?

How much coal needs to burn to charge an auto taking lost power from delivering over huge distances of wires?

How much electric energy is wasted delivering it over a massive trillions of wires rats nest?


Are the huge auto batteries filled with toxic chemicals?

Do the batteries lose power in freezing temperatures?

Electric cars are coal, gas, oil, nuclear powered. And gas is cleaner.

[Anonymous]

EV are way more environmentally friendly when compared to gas powered cars. Gas powered cars use more energy per mile vs EV. The resources used to produce a GV pollute more and are more carbon intense per ton vs EV production. EV power source generation is a 1/10 the omissions of a GV. Finally operational costs are way less vs GV. The maintenance is basically tires and brakes, no coolant, oil changes, etc. There are just a lot less moving parts in a EV vs GS.

Once you drive an EV no one wants to go back to GV.