Why are conservatives creepy? OH legislature votes to require genital inspections for kids’ sports

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

NP. I take it you don't have children, or have never taken your children to the pediatrician for a well-child appointment. Are you childless? Or just not the default parent?

[Anonymous]

Leave it to the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

NP. I take it you don't have children, or have never taken your children to the pediatrician for a well-child appointment. Are you childless? Or just not the default parent?

Seriously, if a child has female anatomy externally without having had any surgical procedures to alter their genitalia, and there’s never been any reason to think that their internal anatomy doesn’t match their external anatomy, their physician will just sign the form and that’s the end of it. This bill shouldn’t exist, it encourages harassment, and I don’t support it — but I also don’t believe it requires internal exams.

I can’t imagine this bill will withstand any scrutiny by the courts. It places a disproportionate burden on people who want to compete on girls’ sports teams.

[Anonymous]

I think they just want the bill so random Republicans can legally examine underaged genitals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will vote D for the abortion issue but I really wish that liberals and democrats could expand from just abortion and birth control to think about girls and female athletes. Instead, when Rs put forward a solution, then there's no alternative solution put forward by Ds. Just hashtags.

Here’s a solution. Assume girls are girls and cut the crap if they have an original birth certificate listing gender as F. It’s a long con if an MD misgendering then in 2008 so they could have an advantage in sports. Why is anything more than a birth certificate needed. Or even school records showing registration in K or PK as a F?

Let the 5 kids in Ohio play if they are transitioning and their hormone levels are at a set place. That’s a call for endocrinologists, not politicians. At the high school level, err of the side of letting kids play— remembering there are 5 and not 5000, that the suicide rate for trans kids is off the charts and that one of the benefits of sports is community building and helping kids struggling with identity feel accepted.

At the college level, the NCAA should be making the call, not 50 individual states. And again, it should be medical, not political.

Digitally raping high school women is a solution in search of a problem.

I do think we are moving to third category, non-binary teams. I follow this because my kid is at Oberlin, and the have some non-binary club sports, like ultimate frisbee. No problems reported. I think non-binary LAX, Soccer, volleyball, soccer, softball will become more common. And people will see that, like gay marriage, it’s NBD.

I really admire the red state Governor who vetoed his red state legislature’s anti-trans sports bill— pointing out their state had *one* trans athlete in HS sports, and he wanted no part in a trans kid killing themselves because they couldn’t find a community in athletics. Good for him.

All it takes is ONE trans biological male to take a college spot from a true female

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What a perverted cult.

I’m more convinced than ever that to ascend to the highest elite of the GOP you need to have abused children. I’m almost certain the party effectively functions as a pedo blackmail ring. They abducted all those migrant kids and “lost” them. Then look at all the child molestation scandals in the GOP. Denny Hastert was 3rd in line to the Presidency.

A few years ago I would have thought you were crazy. I’m not convinced that you need to have abused children, but I’ve come to suspect that it’s definitely a feature of the upper echelons of the GOP. You have three very good examples - plus the reason for this thread - and don’t forget the whole Q/Comet Ping Pong thing. Every Republican accusation is a confession.

Exactly.

I’m the PP you’re replying to and I forgot: Jeffrey Epstein. Not only was he friends with Trump (and Epstein used to hunt for victims at Mar a Lago), but Alex Acosta is the one who let Epstein off and then Epstein was given a cushy Trump administration job. Moreover, Epstein seemed to have been poised to name names finally and he was killed in shady circumstances (both guards fell asleep for approximately three hours and both the cameras outside his cell malfunctioned that night) while Barr (whose father gave Epstein a job at the Dalton School he ran) was in charge of the DOJ.

There is something seriously, seriously wrong in the GOP.

If Trump was repeatedly on Epstein’s list along with other GOPers, we’d have seen it by now in the headlines of CNN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

External ultrasound

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

External ultrasound

Cool, next time I go in for a pelvic exam I’ll tell them DCUM said an external US would do the trick. Spoiler alert: not so much. Maybe a transvaginal US. Maybe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will vote D for the abortion issue but I really wish that liberals and democrats could expand from just abortion and birth control to think about girls and female athletes. Instead, when Rs put forward a solution, then there's no alternative solution put forward by Ds. Just hashtags.

Here’s a solution. Assume girls are girls and cut the crap if they have an original birth certificate listing gender as F. It’s a long con if an MD misgendering then in 2008 so they could have an advantage in sports. Why is anything more than a birth certificate needed. Or even school records showing registration in K or PK as a F?

Let the 5 kids in Ohio play if they are transitioning and their hormone levels are at a set place. That’s a call for endocrinologists, not politicians. At the high school level, err of the side of letting kids play— remembering there are 5 and not 5000, that the suicide rate for trans kids is off the charts and that one of the benefits of sports is community building and helping kids struggling with identity feel accepted.

At the college level, the NCAA should be making the call, not 50 individual states. And again, it should be medical, not political.

Digitally raping high school women is a solution in search of a problem.

I do think we are moving to third category, non-binary teams. I follow this because my kid is at Oberlin, and the have some non-binary club sports, like ultimate frisbee. No problems reported. I think non-binary LAX, Soccer, volleyball, soccer, softball will become more common. And people will see that, like gay marriage, it’s NBD.

I really admire the red state Governor who vetoed his red state legislature’s anti-trans sports bill— pointing out their state had *one* trans athlete in HS sports, and he wanted no part in a trans kid killing themselves because they couldn’t find a community in athletics. Good for him.

All it takes is ONE trans biological male to take a college spot from a true female

Not if the NCAA has standards. If they don’t, then nothing stops the trans woman from competing against boys and then taking a female scholarship.

But I digress. Problem with Rs in general. They’d forced hundreds of thousands of teen girls into pain humiliating unnecessary medical exams to go after a single trans woman— who could apparently compete in the NCAA as a woman and take the scholarship anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

NP. I take it you don't have children, or have never taken your children to the pediatrician for a well-child appointment. Are you childless? Or just not the default parent?

I have never had a pediatrician perform an exam to confirm INTERNAL reproductive organs on my daughter, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

NP. I take it you don't have children, or have never taken your children to the pediatrician for a well-child appointment. Are you childless? Or just not the default parent?

Seriously, if a child has female anatomy externally without having had any surgical procedures to alter their genitalia, and there’s never been any reason to think that their internal anatomy doesn’t match their external anatomy, their physician will just sign the form and that’s the end of it. This bill shouldn’t exist, it encourages harassment, and I don’t support it — but I also don’t believe it requires internal exams.

I can’t imagine this bill will withstand any scrutiny by the courts. It places a disproportionate burden on people who want to compete on girls’ sports teams.

THEN HAVE THEM REWRITE SO DOCTORS ARE NOT CERTIFYING INTERNAL SEX ORGANS.

Also, how do you deal with Intersex, Turners Syndrome, etc.a. At least 2% of Americans have genitalia that do not match genetic sex, ambiguous genitalia, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a perverted cult.

I’m more convinced than ever that to ascend to the highest elite of the GOP you need to have abused children. I’m almost certain the party effectively functions as a pedo blackmail ring. They abducted all those migrant kids and “lost” them. Then look at all the child molestation scandals in the GOP. Denny Hastert was 3rd in line to the Presidency.

A few years ago I would have thought you were crazy. I’m not convinced that you need to have abused children, but I’ve come to suspect that it’s definitely a feature of the upper echelons of the GOP. You have three very good examples - plus the reason for this thread - and don’t forget the whole Q/Comet Ping Pong thing. Every Republican accusation is a confession.

Exactly.

I’m the PP you’re replying to and I forgot: Jeffrey Epstein. Not only was he friends with Trump (and Epstein used to hunt for victims at Mar a Lago), but Alex Acosta is the one who let Epstein off and then Epstein was given a cushy Trump administration job. Moreover, Epstein seemed to have been poised to name names finally and he was killed in shady circumstances (both guards fell asleep for approximately three hours and both the cameras outside his cell malfunctioned that night) while Barr (whose father gave Epstein a job at the Dalton School he ran) was in charge of the DOJ.

There is something seriously, seriously wrong in the GOP.

If Trump was repeatedly on Epstein’s list along with other GOPers, we’d have seen it by now in the headlines of CNN

Dead men can’t talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legalizing the molestation of minors. Any DR that agrees to this is suspect.

I hesitate to say this because I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment as support for this bill, but from what I could find online (weird that the actual bill isn’t quoted in this thread at all) it appears that the text of the bill states that if the sex of an athlete is questioned, there are 3 ways the athlete can prove their sex, and one of them is with a note from a doctor, stating their sex based on external observations. Your sex would be part of your medical records, so your doctor should be able to write such a note without having to perform any new exams.

This bill is problematic, but it doesn’t suggest that anyone other than one’s doctor should be examining one’s genitalia.

You are wrong. The bill requires an internal gyn. exam. On a child who may not have even entered puberty (my very thin daughter did menstrate because she is so thin. She is defiantly female— in sex, in gender. But she was too thin to make estrogen (below 5% BMI) and that would not have been an option. And how many parents can afford to do a full genetic sequence on their kid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2022/06/03/ohio-legislators-want-to-check-childrens-gender/?sh=1e575f343ad0

Read and learn what they are doing to women at a time when eating disorders and other body image issues are rampant.

I’ll take the 5 trans athletes, thanks.

Would you mind citing the passage that you think makes an internal gynecological exam is required? It doesn’t read that way to me.

#1. Examination of a participant’s INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL reproductive anatomy.

The word “examination” isn’t used. It’s “ The participant’s internal and external reproductive anatomy.” I don’t believe a pelvic exam is required. You just get your pediatrician to sign a note stating which kind of anatomy your kid has. Should others be able to force you to do that? No, of course not. A birth certificate should suffice. However, I don’t believe pediatricians are going to perform pelvic exams due to this bill.

Look at the amount of excuses you have to make to excuse your party’s pedophilia - under the guise of “protecting women athletes,” of course. Republicans truly are the Gross Old Perverts.

I’m still waiting to see how PP thinks internal female anatomy is verified without a pelvic exam.

External ultrasound

Cool, next time I go in for a pelvic exam I’ll tell them DCUM said an external US would do the trick. Spoiler alert: not so much. Maybe a transvaginal US. Maybe.

Nope. You can see ovaries, uterus etc on external for sure. How do I know? I am a biological woman and have had plenty/