Thoughts on Dunbar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high-SES black parent and my kids would get destroyed at most of those schools. We have enough problems to worry about than subjecting our kids to that foolishness. It'll be Latin or private for us, so reallistically probably private starting in 6th.

Due to racism, low expectations from teachers? Overcrowding? Something else? Your voice is important for all to hear. I'm a parent of a young mixed kid and always seeking to listen to Black voices willing to share their lived experiences.

My kids are mixed too (black and non-white). It's really about low expectations, which is really a problem everywhere when it comes to black children. Most high-performing (on even grade level-performing) black children have few same race academic peers in public schools. This is a real drag on their academic performance as you get into middle, HS.

I would have a look at this:

https://washingtondc.momcollective.com/parenting-wisdom/tips/diverse-schools-dilemma-black-boys-in-school/

[Anonymous]

Although I hate the low academic standards, my real issue is with the violence in and near the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high-SES black parent and my kids would get destroyed at most of those schools. We have enough problems to worry about than subjecting our kids to that foolishness. It'll be Latin or private for us, so reallistically probably private starting in 6th.

Due to racism, low expectations from teachers? Overcrowding? Something else? Your voice is important for all to hear. I'm a parent of a young mixed kid and always seeking to listen to Black voices willing to share their lived experiences.

My kids are mixed too (black and non-white). It's really about low expectations, which is really a problem everywhere when it comes to black children. Most high-performing (on even grade level-performing) black children have few same race academic peers in public schools. This is a real drag on their academic performance as you get into middle, HS.

I would have a look at this:

https://washingtondc.momcollective.com/parenting-wisdom/tips/diverse-schools-dilemma-black-boys-in-school/

Here is the money quote from the link above

School Solutions

Diverse Schools Dilemma’s suggestions helped me envision a plan for my son’s education, up until middle school. After elementary school, things get tricky. The book has a suggestion to help middle-class parents of African-American boys overcome the cycle of low expectations, decide excelling academically is a Black thing, and be in a peer group that will push a young man to do and be his best. Unfortunately, the solution is not cheap, it’s a private school. Not just a private school, a private school with a critical mass of students of color. It isn’t the only solution, but a public school program the book highlights is so complex and nuanced I would not trust DCPS or a charter to be able to implement or maintain it. There are a number of predominately African-American private schools in the District of Columbia, but that would be another post for another time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high-SES black parent and my kids would get destroyed at most of those schools. We have enough problems to worry about than subjecting our kids to that foolishness. It'll be Latin or private for us, so reallistically probably private starting in 6th.

Due to racism, low expectations from teachers? Overcrowding? Something else? Your voice is important for all to hear. I'm a parent of a young mixed kid and always seeking to listen to Black voices willing to share their lived experiences.

My kids are mixed too (black and non-white). It's really about low expectations, which is really a problem everywhere when it comes to black children. Most high-performing (on even grade level-performing) black children have few same race academic peers in public schools. This is a real drag on their academic performance as you get into middle, HS.

I would have a look at this:

https://washingtondc.momcollective.com/parenting-wisdom/tips/diverse-schools-dilemma-black-boys-in-school/

Here is the money quote from the link above

School Solutions

Diverse Schools Dilemma’s suggestions helped me envision a plan for my son’s education, up until middle school. After elementary school, things get tricky. The book has a suggestion to help middle-class parents of African-American boys overcome the cycle of low expectations, decide excelling academically is a Black thing, and be in a peer group that will push a young man to do and be his best. Unfortunately, the solution is not cheap, it’s a private school. Not just a private school, a private school with a critical mass of students of color. It isn’t the only solution, but a public school program the book highlights is so complex and nuanced I would not trust DCPS or a charter to be able to implement or maintain it. There are a number of predominately African-American private schools in the District of Columbia, but that would be another post for another time.

A bunch of preschool parents that haven't been in the fire yet. Where are all these high performing predominantly black private schools? You will be in for a rude awakening believing this. Finished at a private K-8 and there where quite a few black boys. The school itself is nowhere near predominantly black. But it was considered a safe space for the boys. That's the best you can hope for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high-SES black parent and my kids would get destroyed at most of those schools. We have enough problems to worry about than subjecting our kids to that foolishness. It'll be Latin or private for us, so reallistically probably private starting in 6th.

Due to racism, low expectations from teachers? Overcrowding? Something else? Your voice is important for all to hear. I'm a parent of a young mixed kid and always seeking to listen to Black voices willing to share their lived experiences.

My kids are mixed too (black and non-white). It's really about low expectations, which is really a problem everywhere when it comes to black children. Most high-performing (on even grade level-performing) black children have few same race academic peers in public schools. This is a real drag on their academic performance as you get into middle, HS.

I would have a look at this:

https://washingtondc.momcollective.com/parenting-wisdom/tips/diverse-schools-dilemma-black-boys-in-school/

Here is the money quote from the link above

School Solutions

Diverse Schools Dilemma’s suggestions helped me envision a plan for my son’s education, up until middle school. After elementary school, things get tricky. The book has a suggestion to help middle-class parents of African-American boys overcome the cycle of low expectations, decide excelling academically is a Black thing, and be in a peer group that will push a young man to do and be his best. Unfortunately, the solution is not cheap, it’s a private school. Not just a private school, a private school with a critical mass of students of color. It isn’t the only solution, but a public school program the book highlights is so complex and nuanced I would not trust DCPS or a charter to be able to implement or maintain it. There are a number of predominately African-American private schools in the District of Columbia, but that would be another post for another time.

Thank you for sharing. Raises so many more questions about how to curate the academic experience to support our POC kids. My well-intentioned white friends tell me not to worry about school choice-- that kids with educated parents will do fine even if the school is mediocre completely overlooking that my son has to figure out how to PROVE he is more competent just to be viewed (encouraged, and challenged) similarly by a teacher, not to mention other factors like making friends. We all know intrinsic biases work against POC kids but this is new territory for me and I'm trying to figure out how to navigate it. In the comments section, the author recommended finding mentors because learning how to navigate academics for POC is a skill to be learned and i will do that. Thanks again for your initial comment.

[Anonymous]

These stats are not new. It’s been that way for more than a decade. The majority of the kids in these schools are out of control and they destroy the experience for those who are there to learn. How about talk to the other parents in the community and ask them to control their kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Although I hate the low academic standards, my real issue is with the violence in and near the school.

Do you think your child specifically would be pulled into this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although I hate the low academic standards, my real issue is with the violence in and near the school.

Do you think your child specifically would be pulled into this?

NP. It's unpleasant to witness and can be really traumatic. It disrupts the learning environment and wastes instructional time. And nearby people do sometimes get hurt in a scuffle just by being in range It's not because anyone thinks their child is going to be invited to partake in a carjacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high-SES black parent and my kids would get destroyed at most of those schools. We have enough problems to worry about than subjecting our kids to that foolishness. It'll be Latin or private for us, so reallistically probably private starting in 6th.

Due to racism, low expectations from teachers? Overcrowding? Something else? Your voice is important for all to hear. I'm a parent of a young mixed kid and always seeking to listen to Black voices willing to share their lived experiences.

My kids are mixed too (black and non-white). It's really about low expectations, which is really a problem everywhere when it comes to black children. Most high-performing (on even grade level-performing) black children have few same race academic peers in public schools. This is a real drag on their academic performance as you get into middle, HS.

I would have a look at this:

https://washingtondc.momcollective.com/parenting-wisdom/tips/diverse-schools-dilemma-black-boys-in-school/

It’s less about predominately black versus the blacks kids (however many) being high performers.

Here is the money quote from the link above

School Solutions

Diverse Schools Dilemma’s suggestions helped me envision a plan for my son’s education, up until middle school. After elementary school, things get tricky. The book has a suggestion to help middle-class parents of African-American boys overcome the cycle of low expectations, decide excelling academically is a Black thing, and be in a peer group that will push a young man to do and be his best. Unfortunately, the solution is not cheap, it’s a private school. Not just a private school, a private school with a critical mass of students of color. It isn’t the only solution, but a public school program the book highlights is so complex and nuanced I would not trust DCPS or a charter to be able to implement or maintain it. There are a number of predominately African-American private schools in the District of Columbia, but that would be another post for another time.

A bunch of preschool parents that haven't been in the fire yet. Where are all these high performing predominantly black private schools? You will be in for a rude awakening believing this. Finished at a private K-8 and there where quite a few black boys. The school itself is nowhere near predominantly black. But it was considered a safe space for the boys. That's the best you can hope for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


Do you think your child specifically would be pulled into this?


NP. It's unpleasant to witness and can be really traumatic. It disrupts the learning environment and wastes instructional time. And nearby people do sometimes get hurt in a scuffle just by being in range It's not because anyone thinks their child is going to be invited to partake in a carjacking.

Nobody wants their child to wind up like the KIPP student who was trying to break up a fight and wound up being the one stabbed to death. If I remember the articles correctly, that student was on a great track to success---yet he lost his life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high-SES black parent and my kids would get destroyed at most of those schools. We have enough problems to worry about than subjecting our kids to that foolishness. It'll be Latin or private for us, so reallistically probably private starting in 6th.

Due to racism, low expectations from teachers? Overcrowding? Something else? Your voice is important for all to hear. I'm a parent of a young mixed kid and always seeking to listen to Black voices willing to share their lived experiences.

My kids are mixed too (black and non-white). It's really about low expectations, which is really a problem everywhere when it comes to black children. Most high-performing (on even grade level-performing) black children have few same race academic peers in public schools. This is a real drag on their academic performance as you get into middle, HS.

I would have a look at this:

https://washingtondc.momcollective.com/parenting-wisdom/tips/diverse-schools-dilemma-black-boys-in-school/

Which private schools please advise I know of some catholic schools

Here is the money quote from the link above

School Solutions

Diverse Schools Dilemma’s suggestions helped me envision a plan for my son’s education, up until middle school. After elementary school, things get tricky. The book has a suggestion to help middle-class parents of African-American boys overcome the cycle of low expectations, decide excelling academically is a Black thing, and be in a peer group that will push a young man to do and be his best. Unfortunately, the solution is not cheap, it’s a private school. Not just a private school, a private school with a critical mass of students of color. It isn’t the only solution, but a public school program the book highlights is so complex and nuanced I would not trust DCPS or a charter to be able to implement or maintain it. There are a number of predominately African-American private schools in the District of Columbia, but that would be another post for another time.

[Anonymous]

Where are the private schools that are predominantly poc in dc? I know of some catholic schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although I hate the low academic standards, my real issue is with the violence in and near the school.

Do you think your child specifically would be pulled into this?

NP. It's unpleasant to witness and can be really traumatic. It disrupts the learning environment and wastes instructional time. And nearby people do sometimes get hurt in a scuffle just by being in range It's not because anyone thinks their child is going to be invited to partake in a carjacking.

My child was not happy in his elementary school where there were frequent behavioral disruptions, including thrown chairs, even though he was never directly involved.

[Anonymous]

Just sharing this to spread some positive vibes for a lot of folks inbound: Eastern. Pretty cool!

https://mobile.twitter.com/easternmarching/status/1516152504211419136

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although I hate the low academic standards, my real issue is with the violence in and near the school.

Do you think your child specifically would be pulled into this?

NP. It's unpleasant to witness and can be really traumatic. It disrupts the learning environment and wastes instructional time. And nearby people do sometimes get hurt in a scuffle just by being in range It's not because anyone thinks their child is going to be invited to partake in a carjacking.

My child was not happy in his elementary school where there were frequent behavioral disruptions, including thrown chairs, even though he was never directly involved.

All sounds alarming and unfortunate. Didn't know there was this kind of violence at the schools mentioned except for Latin. Why doesn't Latin face the same thing? Is it because the school is smaller?