Thoughts on Dunbar?

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

Yes, it’s not like there’s a deep well of on-grade-level students at other high schools to pull from… Magical thinking.

[Anonymous]

Hard no on Dunbar.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

Yes, it’s not like there’s a deep well of on-grade-level students at other high schools to pull from… Magical thinking.

People who say, "we should rezone schools" need to spend even a modicum of time reading about DC schools.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

Yes, it’s not like there’s a deep well of on-grade-level students at other high schools to pull from… Magical thinking.

People who say, "we should rezone schools" need to spend even a modicum of time reading about DC schools.

The last time PARCC was given, only 18% of high schoolers were on grade level or above....across the entire city.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you look at the demographics of DCPS high school students it is clear that rezoning would do nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so cruel.

Cruel is what has been done to the students who deserve better, not accurately describing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

Let’s start with their parents failing them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

Yes, it’s not like there’s a deep well of on-grade-level students at other high schools to pull from… Magical thinking.

People who say, "we should rezone schools" need to spend even a modicum of time reading about DC schools.

The last time PARCC was given, only 18% of high schoolers were on grade level or above....across the entire city.

Real value for money where the $120 million renovation of the building is concerned. Whoohoo.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

Yes, it’s not like there’s a deep well of on-grade-level students at other high schools to pull from… Magical thinking.

People who say, "we should rezone schools" need to spend even a modicum of time reading about DC schools.

The last time PARCC was given, only 18% of high schoolers were on grade level or above....across the entire city.

Real value for money where the $120 million renovation of the building is concerned. Whoohoo.

Why do parents think the quality of facilities tells you anything about a school's performance? I never get this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

Let’s start with their parents failing them.

We're not allowed to mention that

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

Let’s start with their parents failing them.

We're not allowed to mention that

You sound like a Trumper who is upset that society’s rejection of racist, sexist, and homophobic hate speech is “restricting their free speech.”

Real adults realize that concentrated poverty in DC has everything to do with explicit and explicitly, overtly racist policies such as the re-segregation of the federal workforce under Wilson, the destruction of middle class Black neighborhoods like where Ft Reno is, and generations of fiercely racist policing.

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you spread around the on- grade level students there wouldn't be many in any school. And then even those few would leave.

Yes, it’s not like there’s a deep well of on-grade-level students at other high schools to pull from… Magical thinking.

People who say, "we should rezone schools" need to spend even a modicum of time reading about DC schools.

The last time PARCC was given, only 18% of high schoolers were on grade level or above....across the entire city.

Real value for money where the $120 million renovation of the building is concerned. Whoohoo.

What is your suggested alternative? Would you be okay with them forgoing the renovation and sending all the kids to Wilson instead? Or should the kids just deal with a dirty, unsafe building?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

You can rezone every student in DCPS, and still the (vast?) majority of students would not be in racially or economically integrated schools.

This. If you look at the demographics of DCPS high school students it is clear that rezoning would do nothing.

Well we could mix Wards 2 and 3 into other schools and have honors classes. That would do "something" but not sure it would help the kids that are failing at Dunbar.