Thoughts on Dunbar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Us, too. Will you lottery out, move, or go private?

[Anonymous]

My thoughts are: LOL nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

[Anonymous]

I live inbounds and agree with PP.

Academics isn't everything but it is the most important factor when deciding on where my child will receive and education. 2% of students being on grade level is unacceptable.

Nice facilities and very new, but still a firm no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Us, too. Will you lottery out, move, or go private?

Lottery out and if no luck, private. We have only 1 child and can afford private. If we had 2, we would move to the burbs because private would be too much.

[Anonymous]

Like others here, I am zoned for Dunbar and it is a non starter for me. My kids are in a title I DCPS elementary school so I am not particularly picky but I would never consider this. The academics aside - because I'm actually fairly confident my kids will learn regardless of where they are - the fighting, turnover, and very dangerous environment that I've heard about takes it completely off the table for me. I don't need my kids to be in the best school in the world but I will not place them somewhere that might actively harm them or put them at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

Way too late to do what, exactly? You said that “Dunbar shouldn’t continue to operate.” What other high school do you think Dunbar students should attend, then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

Concentrating poverty into certain schools will always be the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

No, you are personally failing these kids.

Shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

I totally agree with you (and live inbounds for Dunbar), except I would say it’s not just DCPS who failed these kids. Yes DCPS is failing these kids but also, literally everyone in this city is failing these kids.

The city has a lot of social services and programs for these kids. I know it is still not working but what should the city do?

I think they should rezone schools.

I think for the most part these are good kids who just have a low literacy level. They’ve made it to high school without advancing in reading/writing/math past an elementary level.

I’m not sure how rezoning them to different schools would help them?

Because putting a bunch of poor kids in the same school is a recipe for strife. The data is clear that kids do better in racially and economically integrated schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2% of students are proficient in math.

This. It’s shocking the school continues to operate when less than 2% of the kids are on grade level in math. Less than 2%. DC social promotion at its best. It’s probably worst now after the pandemic.

We are zoned for Dunbar and it’s a non-starter. Just no way we are sending DS there. I don’t care how nice the building is.

Curious what you think the solution is to this besides rezoning (I support rezoning).

Rezoning is not going to help these kids. DCPS failed these kids. It’s been said on here so many times. Provide the support early K-3rd whatever that entails - pull outs, after school and summer tutoring, mentorship, etc….Hold them back a year in these grades if they are really struggling even with support to give them time. Just passing them every year does no good. By high school, it’s way to late.

For some kids, even with all the support in the world, they still might not do well, then present and encourage other options like vocational tracks.

You should review the data for long term outcomes for kids who are held back.

Kids who are held back for multiple years will leave school. Their life outcomes will be worse than if they had stayed in a relatively safe/supervised space for longer.

Also - If kids aren’t learning when they are in the grade for their age, what makes you imagine that they would learn when they are older than the class? And how do you think having a bunch of older kids in classes impacts the younger kids?

There are no good answers here. Holding kids back is among the worst.