People who treat servers rudely

[Anonymous]

So it's all about the tip, is it?
Pray, what is a low tip to you?

I'd rather pay more taxes and vote for politicians who want to raise the minimum wage than tip more than 20% for exceptional service (15 for standard, and lower or nothing for bad service).

You are part of the problem, OP - a generation of idiots who seek waiter jobs for the tips. No, you should be fighting for a decent wage instead. You are holding yourself back, and holding everyone back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So it's all about the tip, is it?
Pray, what is a low tip to you?

I'd rather pay more taxes and vote for politicians who want to raise the minimum wage than tip more than 20% for exceptional service (15 for standard, and lower or nothing for bad service).

You are part of the problem, OP - a generation of idiots who seek waiter jobs for the tips. No, you should be fighting for a decent wage instead. You are holding yourself back, and holding everyone back.

Oh, bless your heart. Not OP, but do you really think servers aren't also fighting for a decent wage? Do you... do you think that they want to be paid $2.13 an hour and be at the whim of leering weirdos who expect you to laugh at their jokes and parents who let their kids literally and deliberately crush wet Cheerios into the fabric of the booth benches?

Silly servers, holding the whole of society back like they do. For, you know... reasons. Or something.

[Anonymous]

OP here, I don't have time for it. I'm just bored and looking to see what DC has got to say about it since I live and work here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So it's all about the tip, is it?
Pray, what is a low tip to you?

I'd rather pay more taxes and vote for politicians who want to raise the minimum wage than tip more than 20% for exceptional service (15 for standard, and lower or nothing for bad service).

You are part of the problem, OP - a generation of idiots who seek waiter jobs for the tips. No, you should be fighting for a decent wage instead. You are holding yourself back, and holding everyone back.

I agree, now that I'm working I'm more intrigued to research what alternatives restaurants can adopt. But in the meanwhile, buy food take-out or online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

If you aren't making the income you demand, then find a differs t job.

Tip is a tip. Its not a payment or a salary/income. The real issue is these businesses should be paying a salary and they aren't.

A tip is generally 15%. Bad service 10%. But, if you do very little as a server, don't expect much. You don't deserve $10 for 5 minutes of work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

If you aren't making the income you demand, then find a differs t job.

Tip is a tip. Its not a payment or a salary/income. The real issue is these businesses should be paying a salary and they aren't.

A tip is generally 15%. Bad service 10%. But, if you do very little as a server, don't expect much. You don't deserve $10 for 5 minutes of work.

Are you the same person from the first page everyone's been replying to ?😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

I forgot one! Old people who fall into a sort of combo of #1 (don't know how to tip) and a version of #4 (rich people who don't understand the value of money, but in reverse).

When they were younger, 12-15% was a fine tip AND that often meant a nice dinner out was $20-25 for two people, which means in their minds (if they don't think too hard about it), $3 is a good dinner tip. Then they go out, the meal is $75, and they're still leaving $3. Maybe $5. They, like most customers, are also usually very nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So it's all about the tip, is it?
Pray, what is a low tip to you?

I'd rather pay more taxes and vote for politicians who want to raise the minimum wage than tip more than 20% for exceptional service (15 for standard, and lower or nothing for bad service).

You are part of the problem, OP - a generation of idiots who seek waiter jobs for the tips. No, you should be fighting for a decent wage instead. You are holding yourself back, and holding everyone back.

Uh, yes. They are working for money. Why else on God’s green earth would anyone else be serving you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

If you aren't making the income you demand, then find a differs t job.

Tip is a tip. Its not a payment or a salary/income. The real issue is these businesses should be paying a salary and they aren't.

A tip is generally 15%. Bad service 10%. But, if you do very little as a server, don't expect much. You don't deserve $10 for 5 minutes of work.

5 minutes? 5 minutes?? I've been tipped $2 serving a table that stayed 2 hours, fetching their meals and waters! While I could have been getting more worthwhile customers. That's almost two hours spent watching the table that overstayed to make sure they need anything. You sound like you don't deserve more than 5 minutes of our time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

If you aren't making the income you demand, then find a differs t job.

Tip is a tip. Its not a payment or a salary/income. The real issue is these businesses should be paying a salary and they aren't.

A tip is generally 15%. Bad service 10%. But, if you do very little as a server, don't expect much. You don't deserve $10 for 5 minutes of work.

Oh, honey. lmao

-Take it up with the businesses then.

-It's not 5 minutes of work.

-The issue generally isn't "not making the income they 'demand'" (lol). Usually servers come out all right in the end. Because most people aren't like you. But we can still complain about people like you. That's rather the point of this whole thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

If you aren't making the income you demand, then find a differs t job.

Tip is a tip. Its not a payment or a salary/income. The real issue is these businesses should be paying a salary and they aren't.

A tip is generally 15%. Bad service 10%. But, if you do very little as a server, don't expect much. You don't deserve $10 for 5 minutes of work.

Play dumb all you want but in the context of American dining out, yes, a tip is income to the person serving you. You might not like it but it is what it is.

[Anonymous]

When I was a part time server in college I believe I was “paid” 2.13 an hour in Georgia. I don’t think I ever even cashed those checks! My “tips” would be something like $200 and “income” was a check for like $25. I’m using quotes here bc pp seems to think tips are a bonus for servers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.

That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.

How do they still manage to tip you badly even after they've been nice to you and you have been nice to you(vice versa)?

NP with serving experience.

Because they:

1) Don't understand how to tip. Ignorance, willful or otherwise. English visitors were lovely and often fit into this category. Teenagers, too.

2) Believe tipping is truly optional, instead of technically optional.

3) Have a twisted religious justification for tipping poorly or not at all.

4) Are so rich they don't even think about people needing this money to literally pay their bills. Kind of an inverted Lucille Bluth. "It's $10, Michael. What could that buy, a banana? Big deal." If they even gave it that much consideration. To them, tipping 10% instead of 20% on a $200 bill and reducing the tip by $20 was the same as shorting someone a penny. Insignificant.

5) People who think servers are lovely and all, but only "take down your order" and are no more deserving of a tip than a cashier. See this thread.

6) Relatedly, and in conjunction with one or more of the above, have no idea that otherwise, most servers make $2.13 an hour.

All of the above people can be perfectly pleasant customers and would happily tell you they got great service. Sometimes they'll even compliment you to your manager, as if that pays your bills.

A couple of uncommon but not rare ones were:

1) People who came in and sometimes even told you from the start that they had (or only budgeted for) just enough money for their meal, and not enough for a tip. They never ordered less food, or water instead of soda or w/e, in order to afford the tip. They were usually very nice, but !!!

2) Churchgoing people who would say they only "gave God" 10% (tithe) so they just couldn't in good conscience give you more than that. Never mind the only thing tip and tithe have to do with each other is a percentage sign. The old waiter rejoinder was, "Great! Just give me 10% of your salary, then!"

If you think that the only people who tip poorly got bad service-- or even that the only people who tip poorly at least BELIEVE they got bad service-- I have news for you.

If you aren't making the income you demand, then find a differs t job.

Tip is a tip. Its not a payment or a salary/income. The real issue is these businesses should be paying a salary and they aren't.

A tip is generally 15%. Bad service 10%. But, if you do very little as a server, don't expect much. You don't deserve $10 for 5 minutes of work.

Oh, honey. lmao

-Take it up with the businesses then.

-It's not 5 minutes of work.

-The issue generally isn't "not making the income they 'demand'" (lol). Usually servers come out all right in the end. Because most people aren't like you. But we can still complain about people like you. That's rather the point of this whole thread.

PP knows this. He/she just thinks that servers are dumb, lazy and/or don’t have the mental capacity to properly multitask. I’m sure they’re just as condescending to servers in real life but hey at least the waitstaff has the honor of a 15% tip in exchange!

[Anonymous]

I wonder how many of you stiffing your waitstaff realize what unhappy waitstaff can do to your food.