People who treat servers rudely

[Anonymous]

I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

[Anonymous]

I've been to some restaurants that have a standard service charge, so no need to tip. Makes it much easier in my opinion. Also means you can get service from any server who is walking by.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am not entitled to a tip. I tip 15% more or less under the same criteria, however I'm talking about the people that, despite me being ultra-friendly:

a) Give you a hard time from the start with their bratty family of 4 kids throwing food all over the table, leaving a gargantuan mess, and asking for copious amounts of food to later be wasted and uneaten.

b) Super nice to you from start to end; too suspiciously extra nice. Usually ladies over 40 that do this and tip around $2-$4 despite how large their bill is.

c) Have lived in America their whole life and still suck at tipping because they just never caught on!

Most people clean up after themselves and if not, its your job.

And, $2-4 may be appropriate if they don't have a large bill. If they go out for lunch and the bill is $12 for one meal, that is appropriate.

You are not entitled to a tip. If you want a salary, then you need to pick another job. You work for tips. Tips are voluntary.

Not at my restaurant. We do sit-down, full-service or take-out. Our dishes are always moved to bins in the back of the kitchen, so it's not like you are even allowed to clean up yourself. You are correct - tip given by the customer should be proportional to their bill size. If you don't know yet, eating at 99% of full-service sit down restaurants implies tips are part of the bill. Because technically servers aren't getting paid by the restaurant for their "table-service," you are expected to, other don't sit down at full service tables. Servers don't stand around to take tables for free lol

Actually you do basically work for free and anything you get in terms of a tip is a bonus. A tip is not a salary/income.

I mean, if you go to any restaurant in an area and they know you're not one to tip while using their service thinking it's perpetually "free," they will remember you and have the right to deny you access to their services. You might be able to get away with take away but you won't be getting a table again. I wouldn't know how you go around the country without any remorse after hitting restaurants and never paying a single tip.

The restaurant industry has long dealt with these kind of customers. Especially smaller restaurants or chains won't have enough money leftover to pay servers without functioning properly because believe it or not, most restaurants have produce small margins after having hired every absolutely essential employee to keep it running at optimal speed. Perhaps one day we will seek to change the paying system with restaurants, because restaurant cash flow works the way it does now. My family member owned a restaurant, and having looked at their financial statements, it takes strategy to get your restaurant running properly and you still end up making disappointing profits at times. Try to think that selling food items can be a very volatile venture.

There is zero excuse for restaurant owners not to pay their staff at least minimum wage. You take a smaller salary for yourself or figure out a more profitable business plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

There is absolutely no way you are for real.

I was a server at a sports bar and chain family restaurant and it was in fact physically exhausting. Yes we did have some slow times where we were standing around and had only a couple tables but a Friday or Saturday night and your feet didn't stop moving for hours. Factor in heavy trays full of drinks and food. I’m sure the cooks are exhausted as well. One does not negate the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, listen to me carefully: thank you.

I slept in my car off and on while I waitressed and bartended my way through college. I know about the burns and the jabbed fingers, sore feet, the crick in your neck that just gets worse as the night goes on. The absolute weirdness of a disproportionate reaction. The utter and complete tiredness.

Thanks. Hope I get you serving my table. I'll say thank you then, too, and not just in words.

OP here! I sympathize. I can say that I've experienced all of that serving through my job, it truly takes stamina to make it through a busy shift, let alone some coworkers who have worked double-shifts. People might say, "why would you put yourself through this?" But what about all the other immigrants or lower-class people who NEED that money now and realistically don't have other options? I feel absolutely sorry for them. Some of us can't even afford college unless otherwise. I don't know what these rude people have done in their lifetimes to not experience true "hard work," whether it be mentally or physically demanding. Thank you for sharing your story as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

There is absolutely no way you are for real.

I was a server at a sports bar and chain family restaurant and it was in fact physically exhausting. Yes we did have some slow times where we were standing around and had only a couple tables but a Friday or Saturday night and your feet didn't stop moving for hours. Factor in heavy trays full of drinks and food. I’m sure the cooks are exhausted as well. One does not negate the other.

Sorry but my waiters didn’t bring the food out. It was always the people in the kitchen that did. Therefor, I hate tipping the people that only take my order and then stop by to ask if I need more water and if the food is ok

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

There is absolutely no way you are for real.

I was a server at a sports bar and chain family restaurant and it was in fact physically exhausting. Yes we did have some slow times where we were standing around and had only a couple tables but a Friday or Saturday night and your feet didn't stop moving for hours. Factor in heavy trays full of drinks and food. I’m sure the cooks are exhausted as well. One does not negate the other.

And don’t forget the mental exhaustion of dealing with tables full of tw*ts like PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

A good percentage of our total tip is drawn into a 'pool' that is dispersed to cooks as well...

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am not entitled to a tip. I tip 15% more or less under the same criteria, however I'm talking about the people that, despite me being ultra-friendly:

a) Give you a hard time from the start with their bratty family of 4 kids throwing food all over the table, leaving a gargantuan mess, and asking for copious amounts of food to later be wasted and uneaten.

b) Super nice to you from start to end; too suspiciously extra nice. Usually ladies over 40 that do this and tip around $2-$4 despite how large their bill is.

c) Have lived in America their whole life and still suck at tipping because they just never caught on!

I despise servers like you who give me horrible service because I'm over 40. The service is even worse if I'm with my teen kids. I'm a generous tipper but give me bad service and you might get $1.

Why do you think you’re entitled to (give or take) an hour of someone’s time for $1?

You aren't taking someone's time. They are there for a job. Their job is service. If the service is bad, don't expect a good tip. $1 is obnoxious, but if its a $10 meal, its 10% which is perfectly fine.

A good server comes quickly to take an order. A good server brings drinks right away and makes sure you have silverware and extra napkins. A good server comes to tell you your food is coming out if its taking a long time. A good server gets the order right and puts it properly into the computer. A good server comes back to make sure your meal is correct, see if you need drink refills or anything else.

If you just take the order, a runner brings out food, no drink refllls and I have to hunt you down to pay, why do you deserve a large tip?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

There is absolutely no way you are for real.

I was a server at a sports bar and chain family restaurant and it was in fact physically exhausting. Yes we did have some slow times where we were standing around and had only a couple tables but a Friday or Saturday night and your feet didn't stop moving for hours. Factor in heavy trays full of drinks and food. I’m sure the cooks are exhausted as well. One does not negate the other.

Sorry but my waiters didn’t bring the food out. It was always the people in the kitchen that did. Therefor, I hate tipping the people that only take my order and then stop by to ask if I need more water and if the food is ok

That's quite an interesting restaurant you must have visited then, because I don't know of any restaurant that allows cooks to leave their stations and deliver the food themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

There is absolutely no way you are for real.

I was a server at a sports bar and chain family restaurant and it was in fact physically exhausting. Yes we did have some slow times where we were standing around and had only a couple tables but a Friday or Saturday night and your feet didn't stop moving for hours. Factor in heavy trays full of drinks and food. I’m sure the cooks are exhausted as well. One does not negate the other.

Sorry but my waiters didn’t bring the food out. It was always the people in the kitchen that did. Therefor, I hate tipping the people that only take my order and then stop by to ask if I need more water and if the food is ok

Where was this? This experience is not the norm in most restaurants. I do notice men and food runners bring out the food in most Mexican restaurants. Those guys for sure deserve more and they probably do take a cut of the servers tips - all the more reason to tip well.

[Anonymous]

Every human should wait tables at some point in their life.

If I see someone being rude to wait staff, I have learned all that I want to know about that person. There's no excuse to be rude to someone who is doing a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate that I have to tip the person that takes my order. All you did was write crap down. I want to tip the cook that actually made my food.

Often they don't write it down and get it wrong. I'd rather get my own drinks, order off an app so its correct and tip the cook too.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am not entitled to a tip. I tip 15% more or less under the same criteria, however I'm talking about the people that, despite me being ultra-friendly:

a) Give you a hard time from the start with their bratty family of 4 kids throwing food all over the table, leaving a gargantuan mess, and asking for copious amounts of food to later be wasted and uneaten.

b) Super nice to you from start to end; too suspiciously extra nice. Usually ladies over 40 that do this and tip around $2-$4 despite how large their bill is.

c) Have lived in America their whole life and still suck at tipping because they just never caught on!

I despise servers like you who give me horrible service because I'm over 40. The service is even worse if I'm with my teen kids. I'm a generous tipper but give me bad service and you might get $1.

Why do you think you’re entitled to (give or take) an hour of someone’s time for $1?

You aren't taking someone's time. They are there for a job. Their job is service. If the service is bad, don't expect a good tip. $1 is obnoxious, but if its a $10 meal, its 10% which is perfectly fine.

A good server comes quickly to take an order. A good server brings drinks right away and makes sure you have silverware and extra napkins. A good server comes to tell you your food is coming out if its taking a long time. A good server gets the order right and puts it properly into the computer. A good server comes back to make sure your meal is correct, see if you need drink refills or anything else.

If you just take the order, a runner brings out food, no drink refllls and I have to hunt you down to pay, why do you deserve a large tip?

OP here. I agree with everything you've said, as a server. If that's the case for that particular restaurant you're at, then that makes sense. Me on the other hand here am working at an upscale restaurant in a business district that hires servers expected to do all tasks mentioned above, so it would make sense to tip more for what I'm laboring at versus someone just taking orders and refilling drinks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am not entitled to a tip. I tip 15% more or less under the same criteria, however I'm talking about the people that, despite me being ultra-friendly:

a) Give you a hard time from the start with their bratty family of 4 kids throwing food all over the table, leaving a gargantuan mess, and asking for copious amounts of food to later be wasted and uneaten.

b) Super nice to you from start to end; too suspiciously extra nice. Usually ladies over 40 that do this and tip around $2-$4 despite how large their bill is.

c) Have lived in America their whole life and still suck at tipping because they just never caught on!

I despise servers like you who give me horrible service because I'm over 40. The service is even worse if I'm with my teen kids. I'm a generous tipper but give me bad service and you might get $1.

Why do you think you’re entitled to (give or take) an hour of someone’s time for $1?

You aren't taking someone's time. They are there for a job. Their job is service. If the service is bad, don't expect a good tip. $1 is obnoxious, but if its a $10 meal, its 10% which is perfectly fine.

A good server comes quickly to take an order. A good server brings drinks right away and makes sure you have silverware and extra napkins. A good server comes to tell you your food is coming out if its taking a long time. A good server gets the order right and puts it properly into the computer. A good server comes back to make sure your meal is correct, see if you need drink refills or anything else.

If you just take the order, a runner brings out food, no drink refllls and I have to hunt you down to pay, why do you deserve a large tip?

Well thanks for explaining the job of a server to a thread full of servers, Karen. *bows and takes my $1*