Gun Control - Why isn't more done

[Anonymous]

Khalil Marbley is an eight time felon with an extensive criminal history. Released on electronic monitoring in Chicago gun case.

https://cwbchicago.com/2021/08/8-time-felon-a-serial-escapee-gets-electronic-monitoring-for-new-gun-case.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why has the biden administration stalled out on controlling the gun violence in our country? I feel like he had a chance to do something when the democrats took control of both houses and he blew it.

Violent gun violence is skyrocketing in our country and every night there is a shooting in DC.

The "gun violence" that is surging is in overwhelmingly deep blue jurisdictions. Of course actually addressing that is hard, good thing it is easier to advocate for taking away the rights of law abiding citizens.

No one is advocating for your rights to be taken away. Turn off OANN, my guy.

Also, the only way to address gun violence is to address it on a national scale….and because there are so many damn guns out there, it’ll take decades to see any results. But, yeah, let’s keep claiming nothing is being done when you are too damn scared to do support this country doing anything for fear of losing your symbol of masculinity.

And let’s be clear, you don’t give a shit about Chicago beyond using it as a talking point.

[Black woman gun owner]

Liberals lost the compassion for Chicagoans contest. I’m liberal and it’s a travesty and embarrassment.

Chicago is a perfect example of why gun laws have to be tightened on a national level. Chicago already has tight gun laws. But all a criminal has to do is go a half hour east into Indiana where a private seller can legally sell them guns at a gun show with no background checks and no questions asked.

This is not correct. Except for some exceptions related to active members of the armed forces, it is not possible to legally take possession of a handgun in Indiana if you you are not a resident of Indiana. This is true for all states actually. There is some responsibility on the part of the private seller to verify that the buyer is a resident of Indiana. And if the buyer is a resident of Indiana, and if the seller believes that the buyer intends to illegally transfer the gun (as in a straw purchase), then the seller may refuse to sell or face criminal charges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why has the biden administration stalled out on controlling the gun violence in our country? I feel like he had a chance to do something when the democrats took control of both houses and he blew it.

Violent gun violence is skyrocketing in our country and every night there is a shooting in DC.

The "gun violence" that is surging is in overwhelmingly deep blue jurisdictions. Of course actually addressing that is hard, good thing it is easier to advocate for taking away the rights of law abiding citizens.

Nope. Crime went up everywhere in the US over the last couple of years (including under Trump). And on a per-capita basis there is actually more gun violence in deep red states than there is in deep blue states. You just hear bigger numbers from blue states because there is a much larger population.

PP referred to cities, not states as a whole. Cities with the most gun violence are overwhelmingly D.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why has the biden administration stalled out on controlling the gun violence in our country? I feel like he had a chance to do something when the democrats took control of both houses and he blew it.

Violent gun violence is skyrocketing in our country and every night there is a shooting in DC.

The "gun violence" that is surging is in overwhelmingly deep blue jurisdictions. Of course actually addressing that is hard, good thing it is easier to advocate for taking away the rights of law abiding citizens.

Nope. Crime went up everywhere in the US over the last couple of years (including under Trump). And on a per-capita basis there is actually more gun violence in deep red states than there is in deep blue states. You just hear bigger numbers from blue states because there is a much larger population.

PP referred to cities, not states as a whole. Cities with the most gun violence are overwhelmingly D.

That P-PP referred to “jurisdictions.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Khalil Marbley is an eight time felon with an extensive criminal history. Released on electronic monitoring in Chicago gun case.

https://cwbchicago.com/2021/08/8-time-felon-a-serial-escapee-gets-electronic-monitoring-for-new-gun-case.html

I mean, what do they think is going to happen? He’s going to wake up tomorrow as a Boy Scout?? Are they serious?

I can’t even with these idiot liberals.

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Look, I’m not your enemy here.

I wanted a gun because I live alone. Also, I think it’s important that more Black people educate themselves about guns and become gun owners. I don’t think guns are for everyone. But, it’s important to look at what’s happening around you. If we don’t educate ourselves, we become like sitting ducks.

Again, I’m 100% for gun reform. While I continue to vote for people who will make this happen, I’m making sure I can protect myself if need be.

As it is right now, it’ll take decades for us to see any change after we enact common-sense gun reform.

People who want gun reform are not anti-gun.

thanks for the contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country. Gullible people watch fox news and think crime is out of control, they rush out and buy a bunch of weapons of war. Some eventually have mental issues or have stress or their kids get bullied and suddenly they either turn the gun on themselves or go out and hurt a lot of people. It's just tragic at this point.

Your hysteria and hyperbole helps absolutely nothing. I am not contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country.

How is it hyperbolic to claim that gullible people buy guns and become a menace to society? Did you think the sandy hook mom bought guns knowing her autistic kid would go on a shooting spree. Nobody think they are a gun nutter, you all think you are “responsible” gun owners and it has done nothing to stop tragedies in this country.

I agree that it’s tragic. And the SH mom shouldn’t have been able to have the arsenal of guns she had…especially since her son was previously reported for his behavior.

As a single Black woman, however, I will not sit unarmed waiting for this country to enact common-sense gun laws. I’ve felt threatened for many years now. Unlike many others, I’m making sure I’m properly trained and educated on the use of my gun.

I also vote every damn election for people who want the same gun reform I do.

Disparage me, call me names… I don’t care. You might want to spend more time talking to the voting block who votes for this free-for-all gun state we live in. (Hint: It’s not Black women.)

You realize that the statistics show that your gun is far more likely to be used to kill / injure someone in your home than as part of any “self defense” scenario, right?

[Anonymous]

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Look, I’m not your enemy here.

I wanted a gun because I live alone. Also, I think it’s important that more Black people educate themselves about guns and become gun owners. I don’t think guns are for everyone. But, it’s important to look at what’s happening around you. If we don’t educate ourselves, we become like sitting ducks.

Again, I’m 100% for gun reform. While I continue to vote for people who will make this happen, I’m making sure I can protect myself if need be.

As it is right now, it’ll take decades for us to see any change after we enact common-sense gun reform.

People who want gun reform are not anti-gun.

thanks for the contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country. Gullible people watch fox news and think crime is out of control, they rush out and buy a bunch of weapons of war. Some eventually have mental issues or have stress or their kids get bullied and suddenly they either turn the gun on themselves or go out and hurt a lot of people. It's just tragic at this point.

Your hysteria and hyperbole helps absolutely nothing. I am not contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country.

How is it hyperbolic to claim that gullible people buy guns and become a menace to society? Did you think the sandy hook mom bought guns knowing her autistic kid would go on a shooting spree. Nobody think they are a gun nutter, you all think you are “responsible” gun owners and it has done nothing to stop tragedies in this country.

I agree that it’s tragic. And the SH mom shouldn’t have been able to have the arsenal of guns she had…especially since her son was previously reported for his behavior.

As a single Black woman, however, I will not sit unarmed waiting for this country to enact common-sense gun laws. I’ve felt threatened for many years now. Unlike many others, I’m making sure I’m properly trained and educated on the use of my gun.

I also vote every damn election for people who want the same gun reform I do.

Disparage me, call me names… I don’t care. You might want to spend more time talking to the voting block who votes for this free-for-all gun state we live in. (Hint: It’s not Black women.)

You realize that the statistics show that your gun is far more likely to be used to kill / injure someone in your home than as part of any “self defense” scenario, right?

You’d really need to see statistics where the gun is properly secured and the owner has training for that to be a fair statement.

Oh wait, we have those statistics. It’s Switzerland. And hint: they don’t have a problem with their firearms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Look, I’m not your enemy here.

I wanted a gun because I live alone. Also, I think it’s important that more Black people educate themselves about guns and become gun owners. I don’t think guns are for everyone. But, it’s important to look at what’s happening around you. If we don’t educate ourselves, we become like sitting ducks.

Again, I’m 100% for gun reform. While I continue to vote for people who will make this happen, I’m making sure I can protect myself if need be.

As it is right now, it’ll take decades for us to see any change after we enact common-sense gun reform.

People who want gun reform are not anti-gun.

thanks for the contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country. Gullible people watch fox news and think crime is out of control, they rush out and buy a bunch of weapons of war. Some eventually have mental issues or have stress or their kids get bullied and suddenly they either turn the gun on themselves or go out and hurt a lot of people. It's just tragic at this point.

Your hysteria and hyperbole helps absolutely nothing. I am not contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country.

How is it hyperbolic to claim that gullible people buy guns and become a menace to society? Did you think the sandy hook mom bought guns knowing her autistic kid would go on a shooting spree. Nobody think they are a gun nutter, you all think you are “responsible” gun owners and it has done nothing to stop tragedies in this country.

I agree that it’s tragic. And the SH mom shouldn’t have been able to have the arsenal of guns she had…especially since her son was previously reported for his behavior.

As a single Black woman, however, I will not sit unarmed waiting for this country to enact common-sense gun laws. I’ve felt threatened for many years now. Unlike many others, I’m making sure I’m properly trained and educated on the use of my gun.

I also vote every damn election for people who want the same gun reform I do.

Disparage me, call me names… I don’t care. You might want to spend more time talking to the voting block who votes for this free-for-all gun state we live in. (Hint: It’s not Black women.)

You realize that the statistics show that your gun is far more likely to be used to kill / injure someone in your home than as part of any “self defense” scenario, right?

Yes, of course.

Do you realize it’s not wise to live your life by statistics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, I’m not your enemy here.

I wanted a gun because I live alone. Also, I think it’s important that more Black people educate themselves about guns and become gun owners. I don’t think guns are for everyone. But, it’s important to look at what’s happening around you. If we don’t educate ourselves, we become like sitting ducks.

Again, I’m 100% for gun reform. While I continue to vote for people who will make this happen, I’m making sure I can protect myself if need be.

As it is right now, it’ll take decades for us to see any change after we enact common-sense gun reform.

People who want gun reform are not anti-gun.

thanks for the contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country. Gullible people watch fox news and think crime is out of control, they rush out and buy a bunch of weapons of war. Some eventually have mental issues or have stress or their kids get bullied and suddenly they either turn the gun on themselves or go out and hurt a lot of people. It's just tragic at this point.

Your hysteria and hyperbole helps absolutely nothing. I am not contributing to the problem of gun violence in this country.

How is it hyperbolic to claim that gullible people buy guns and become a menace to society? Did you think the sandy hook mom bought guns knowing her autistic kid would go on a shooting spree. Nobody think they are a gun nutter, you all think you are “responsible” gun owners and it has done nothing to stop tragedies in this country.

I agree that it’s tragic. And the SH mom shouldn’t have been able to have the arsenal of guns she had…especially since her son was previously reported for his behavior.

As a single Black woman, however, I will not sit unarmed waiting for this country to enact common-sense gun laws. I’ve felt threatened for many years now. Unlike many others, I’m making sure I’m properly trained and educated on the use of my gun.

I also vote every damn election for people who want the same gun reform I do.

Disparage me, call me names… I don’t care. You might want to spend more time talking to the voting block who votes for this free-for-all gun state we live in. (Hint: It’s not Black women.)

You realize that the statistics show that your gun is far more likely to be used to kill / injure someone in your home than as part of any “self defense” scenario, right?

You’d really need to see statistics where the gun is properly secured and the owner has training for that to be a fair statement.

Oh wait, we have those statistics. It’s Switzerland. And hint: they don’t have a problem with their firearms.

Are you saying the NRA/Gun Lobby would be cool with those being legal requirements? Yeah, didn’t think so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We quite obviously need gun reform. The problem is, we need to elect more democratic senators to compensate for our 2 duds. Period.

Hopefully, we can overcome voter suppression and make this happen. (Voter protection laws should be the top priority for the Biden Administration!)

All that said, I am a Black woman who purchased her first gun (a Glock 9mm) last month.

It’s important to have more Black gun owners….especially Black women. I’ll de dammed if I let republican Qooks be the only gun owners in this country.

Curious why you bought your first gun, PP. Do you live or work in a dangerous area?

I’ve wanted one for years, but I never got off my butt to get one. The opportunity presented itself when I went to the Gun Show at Dulles Expo, so I got it.

I’ll also note, I was thrilled to see there were many Black people at the gun expo.

I do not work of live in a dangerous area….but, I am a single woman.

Good for you. Congratulations! If you haven’t already, take a gun safety course and go to the range to get used to handling, loading, firing, and unloading checking it is clear. Keep it locked too unless you don’t have kids / kids in the house ever.

This is what responsible gun owners do. Magically, the gun won’t get up and load itself and start randomly shooting people like many anti-gun nuts will claim. Shooting crimes, accidents, and suicides are about people, not about an inanimate tool.

Thanks for the advice. I actually went to a local range before buying the gun. (I had a gun-owning relative with me to show me everything.) It turns out my aim is pretty damn good! 😁😁

I know how to take the gun apart and clean it. I live alone, so I’m not worried about anyone else loading it. I do keep it secure, though.

I’m not an “anti-gun nut,” but I’m very much for gun reform. It’s desperately needed. There are many gun owners who believe we need gun reform….despite what gun nuts would have everyone believe.

Sorry weapons of war don’t belong on our streets or in our homes, including your handguns which can take high capacity magazines readily

Gun rights are exactly like abortion rights.

Don’t like abortions? Don’t have one.

Don’t like guns? Don’t own one.

But you DO NOT get to tell others they cannot have an abortion or a gun.

Last time I checked, abortion rights (the right to terminate your unborn fetus) are not in the bill of rights. So there is a difference. A rather large one.

Roe v. Wade set a precedent, but no federal U.S. Congress has pushed forth an amendment or law speaking directly to the age at which an unborn fetus is considered a human and no longer “part” of the host woman’s body and delineating a rightful women’s choice vs. murder of a child. Come talk to me when they do. Also, abortion is a willful action taken by at least two people (at least most of the time) to terminate a life (be it human or pre-humans). Owning a gun is a willful action but in and of itself does not harm anyone. The gun has to be loaded, and aimed, and fired at another human or in the vicinity of people or property to cause harm. Lots of actions none of which related directly to the act of legally purchasing or illegally obtaining a firearm. The crime and the shame is not gun ownership, it is illegal gun usage. The crime and shame (if you believe it is a crime and a shame) of abortion, is the act of abortion itself.

[Anonymous]

^ You could make laws like if someone’s unsecured firearm is used to commit a crime then they do the same time as the person who pulled the trigger. I’d vote for that (as a conservative).

Of course, that’s probably not a big deal since the left doesn’t seem to want to lock up criminals anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ You could make laws like if someone’s unsecured firearm is used to commit a crime then they do the same time as the person who pulled the trigger. I’d vote for that (as a conservative).

Of course, that’s probably not a big deal since the left doesn’t seem to want to lock up criminals anyway.

Correct. They don’t care about taking guns away from criminals or punishing criminals for crimes. They care solely about getting guns out of the hands of people who are not criminals to begin with. And the easiest way to do that is by doing what states like CA, MA, NJ, MD and NY are already doing - by making formerly legal guns illegal, in order to turn their owners into brand-new criminals by virtue of new laws which outlaw things people who weren’t criminals already owned.

It’s positively Randian. I can easily imagine Professor Ferris explaining it to Hank Reardon in so many words.

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Anonymous wrote:Support for gun rights has surged among minorities and especially blacks. I believe the largest increase in legal firearm purchases (by %) last year was black women. Gun control may be a politically dead issue. We should be talking about mental health anyway.

I noticed you had no source to cite on your bullsh!t claim.

If it were really true that AA’s were arming themselves the GOP would be demanding gun bans daily. The fact that they aren’t proves you’re lying. Because white trash gun nutters will not tolerate Black people buying guns too. They want their prey unarmed.

You’re a peach.

Totally true. If you saw blacks roaming around with AR-15s in their cos-play, pretend-soldier camo (see: chubby incel Kyle Rittenhouse, as just one example of many) Republicans would quickly find a way to clamp down on guns.

All of a sudden, gun control would become a matter of "national security."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why has the biden administration stalled out on controlling the gun violence in our country? I feel like he had a chance to do something when the democrats took control of both houses and he blew it.

Violent gun violence is skyrocketing in our country and every night there is a shooting in DC.

The "gun violence" that is surging is in overwhelmingly deep blue jurisdictions. Of course actually addressing that is hard, good thing it is easier to advocate for taking away the rights of law abiding citizens.

No one is advocating for your rights to be taken away. Turn off OANN, my guy.

Also, the only way to address gun violence is to address it on a national scale….and because there are so many damn guns out there, it’ll take decades to see any results. But, yeah, let’s keep claiming nothing is being done when you are too damn scared to do support this country doing anything for fear of losing your symbol of masculinity.

And let’s be clear, you don’t give a shit about Chicago beyond using it as a talking point.

[Black woman gun owner]

Liberals lost the compassion for Chicagoans contest. I’m liberal and it’s a travesty and embarrassment.

Chicago is a perfect example of why gun laws have to be tightened on a national level. Chicago already has tight gun laws. But all a criminal has to do is go a half hour east into Indiana where a private seller can legally sell them guns at a gun show with no background checks and no questions asked.

This is not correct. Except for some exceptions related to active members of the armed forces, it is not possible to legally take possession of a handgun in Indiana if you you are not a resident of Indiana. This is true for all states actually. There is some responsibility on the part of the private seller to verify that the buyer is a resident of Indiana. And if the buyer is a resident of Indiana, and if the seller believes that the buyer intends to illegally transfer the gun (as in a straw purchase), then the seller may refuse to sell or face criminal charges.

You've completely missed the point. You are counting on the gun buyer, who is a criminal, to be honest, and to voluntarily, and without prompting, disclose that they are from out of state, which would then establish to the seller that it's an illegal sale. A criminal who wants a gun won't do that.

And currently there is nothing requiring a private Indiana gun seller to verify that the buyer is a legal Indiana buyer. So, it's don't ask/don't tell.

That is exactly how thousands of unscrupulous gun sellers flourish, feeding an epidemic of gun crime.

If we instead made it absolutely mandatory for every gun transfer to undergo a background check and kept a persistent database of all serial numbers and gun transfers and analytical capability for tracing guns from scene of crime to sources in the sales chain, as well as ability for looking for anomalous and suspicious behavior in buyers and sellers. Without pieces like that, there is no hope of stemming the illegal trade in guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Support for gun rights has surged among minorities and especially blacks. I believe the largest increase in legal firearm purchases (by %) last year was black women. Gun control may be a politically dead issue. We should be talking about mental health anyway.

I noticed you had no source to cite on your bullsh!t claim.

If it were really true that AA’s were arming themselves the GOP would be demanding gun bans daily. The fact that they aren’t proves you’re lying. Because white trash gun nutters will not tolerate Black people buying guns too. They want their prey unarmed.

You’re a peach.

Totally true. If you saw blacks roaming around with AR-15s in their cos-play, pretend-soldier camo (see: chubby incel Kyle Rittenhouse, as just one example of many) Republicans would quickly find a way to clamp down on guns.

All of a sudden, gun control would become a matter of "national security."

nope, nobody cares, the only ones running in fear is bloomberg and the karens