Farmland ES student death

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to get roasted but something about this doesn’t add up. I think there’s more to the story.

I think you’re right.

Like what?

I don’t want to speculate here and get this thread locked or deleted. I’ll wait for the autopsy results to come back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking, may this dear child Rest In Peace.I hope his bullies are tormented by guilt. I don’t underwhelmed the mom didn’t take him to an ear or free clinic to get checked out. I understand fear or inability to pay, but I would jump in front of a moving train for my child.

I agree. If they showed up at an emergency room, they would not have been turned away (if you come to this country, you should at least have the basic understanding of how things work. Also, why are we letting people into this country sho go directly to shelters?).

If you show up in an emergency room, they have to treat you until you're stabilized.

And then they send you an enormous bill.

If you live in this country, you should at least have the basic understanding of how things work.

So your options are a) take kid to hospital, he lives, and you have a huge bill or b) don’t take your kid, he dies, but yay! No bills!

Every time your child tells you they don't feel well, you assume that this is a medical emergency and your child will certainly die without medical treatment?

It doesn't take any additional effort to be a kind person, PP. You might try it.

You’re right. When my kid complains of chest/throat pain for a month, I assume it’s nothing.

My kids often get colds that linger where they complain of throat pain for weeks on end. I have good insurance and paid leave so I usually take them to the doctor, who will run a strep test (and now a covid test), and then tell me it's a cold and they should gargle with salt water, drink lots of fluids and take ibuprofen as needed. This is every parent's nightmare -- that the time you say "eh, it's just another thing like kid's get" that is the time it is something serious. I assume this kid did not look like he was about to die, or someone at the school would have sent him to the health tech room or the ER. My own sibling had a tumor that was missed for a long time because it was in a location where kids often get bumps and my parents didn't realize that my sibling kept mentioning the same bump until it was pretty large--and my parents are educated, with one of them working in the health field. I have a kid that complains of chronic headaches -- I've mentioned it to the doctor, and they talk about stress, screen usage, allergies, etc., and then send me home. But of course as a parent there's that paranoid voice in the back of my head thinking it's possibly something worse -- but that doesn't mean I rush to the doctor every time they complain. Parenting is full of these mundane little decisions that can have really awful enormous consequences if you make the wrong call -- that's why it's so enormously stressful to be a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how dcum assumes that just because they’re Spanish and homeless they must be here illegally. Biased much? Nowhere does any article say they’re here illegally. If they were from a European country and we’re homeless we would not be saying this.

Wrong.

This was reported in the news articles about the story. The mom is an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala. The son was not born in the US, so he is also not a citizen.

Check your facts before hurling unfounded accusations about racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking, may this dear child Rest In Peace.I hope his bullies are tormented by guilt. I don’t underwhelmed the mom didn’t take him to an ear or free clinic to get checked out. I understand fear or inability to pay, but I would jump in front of a moving train for my child.

I agree. If they showed up at an emergency room, they would not have been turned away (if you come to this country, you should at least have the basic understanding of how things work. Also, why are we letting people into this country sho go directly to shelters?).

If you show up in an emergency room, they have to treat you until you're stabilized.

And then they send you an enormous bill.

If you live in this country, you should at least have the basic understanding of how things work.

So your options are a) take kid to hospital, he lives, and you have a huge bill or b) don’t take your kid, he dies, but yay! No bills!

Every time your child tells you they don't feel well, you assume that this is a medical emergency and your child will certainly die without medical treatment?

It doesn't take any additional effort to be a kind person, PP. You might try it.

You’re right. When my kid complains of chest/throat pain for a month, I assume it’s nothing.

Your child has never had a lingering cold? Lucky you.

Now, have you ever been in a situation where you could choose to be kind or unkind, and you chose to be unkind?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to get roasted but something about this doesn’t add up. I think there’s more to the story.

I think you’re right.

I agree. Definitely more to this sad story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how dcum assumes that just because they’re Spanish and homeless they must be here illegally. Biased much? Nowhere does any article say they’re here illegally. If they were from a European country and we’re homeless we would not be saying this.

Wrong.

This was reported in the news articles about the story. The mom is an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala. The son was not born in the US, so he is also not a citizen.

Check your facts before hurling unfounded accusations about racism.

There are many people in the US who are not US citizens yet have authorization to be in the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to get roasted but something about this doesn’t add up. I think there’s more to the story.

I think you’re right.

I agree. with what's been reported so far, his teacher would have sent him to the school clinic multiple times and the nurse would have been involved. I've worked in schools for years and I know schools take sick children very seriously. We are missing important details in this tragedy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to get roasted but something about this doesn’t add up. I think there’s more to the story.

I think you’re right.

Like what?

I don’t want to speculate here and get this thread locked or deleted. I’ll wait for the autopsy results to come back.

IDK why you think the autopsy results are going to be available to you.

[Anonymous]

Her legal status does not really matter here.
It is easy to blame the system, school and costs, etc. But, ultimately, it is the parent's responsibility to make sure your child is well. It is a gross negligence that a parent did not seek help when a child was complainig about pain for a month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how dcum assumes that just because they’re Spanish and homeless they must be here illegally. Biased much? Nowhere does any article say they’re here illegally. If they were from a European country and we’re homeless we would not be saying this.

Wrong.

This was reported in the news articles about the story. The mom is an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala. The son was not born in the US, so he is also not a citizen.

Check your facts before hurling unfounded accusations about racism.

There are many people in the US who are not US citizens yet have authorization to be in the US.

Correct. My in-laws are not US citizens but they have authorization to live long term in the US. They jumped through all the hoops and filled the required paperwork to do so.

Undocumented is the new illegal. Take your virtue signaling elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

It is a sad story but many of you try to score some political points. When my kids were in ES, I didn’t take them to see a doctor when they had a cold or cough. Kids’ Motron and cough syrup cured the problems. Hearing this stiry made me think that I could pit my kids in danger. This tragic even could happen to my kids if they had other health problems but ignored by me.
Please love your child and listen to them. There are plenty of free health care in this county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a sad story but many of you try to score some political points. When my kids were in ES, I didn’t take them to see a doctor when they had a cold or cough. Kids’ Motron and cough syrup cured the problems. Hearing this stiry made me think that I could pit my kids in danger. This tragic even could happen to my kids if they had other health problems but ignored by me.
Please love your child and listen to them. There are plenty of free health care in this county.

This poor child didn’t go from not feeling well to dead in four hours.

He complained of symptoms for a month.

Do you think you would deny health care to your child if they said they were in a pain for a month?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking, may this dear child Rest In Peace.I hope his bullies are tormented by guilt. I don’t underwhelmed the mom didn’t take him to an ear or free clinic to get checked out. I understand fear or inability to pay, but I would jump in front of a moving train for my child.

I agree. If they showed up at an emergency room, they would not have been turned away (if you come to this country, you should at least have the basic understanding of how things work. Also, why are we letting people into this country sho go directly to shelters?).

If you show up in an emergency room, they have to treat you until you're stabilized.

And then they send you an enormous bill.

If you live in this country, you should at least have the basic understanding of how things work.

So your options are a) take kid to hospital, he lives, and you have a huge bill or b) don’t take your kid, he dies, but yay! No bills!

Every time your child tells you they don't feel well, you assume that this is a medical emergency and your child will certainly die without medical treatment?

It doesn't take any additional effort to be a kind person, PP. You might try it.

You’re right. When my kid complains of chest/throat pain for a month, I assume it’s nothing.

My kids often get colds that linger where they complain of throat pain for weeks on end. I have good insurance and paid leave so I usually take them to the doctor, who will run a strep test (and now a covid test), and then tell me it's a cold and they should gargle with salt water, drink lots of fluids and take ibuprofen as needed. This is every parent's nightmare -- that the time you say "eh, it's just another thing like kid's get" that is the time it is something serious. I assume this kid did not look like he was about to die, or someone at the school would have sent him to the health tech room or the ER. My own sibling had a tumor that was missed for a long time because it was in a location where kids often get bumps and my parents didn't realize that my sibling kept mentioning the same bump until it was pretty large--and my parents are educated, with one of them working in the health field. I have a kid that complains of chronic headaches -- I've mentioned it to the doctor, and they talk about stress, screen usage, allergies, etc., and then send me home. But of course as a parent there's that paranoid voice in the back of my head thinking it's possibly something worse -- but that doesn't mean I rush to the doctor every time they complain. Parenting is full of these mundane little decisions that can have really awful enormous consequences if you make the wrong call -- that's why it's so enormously stressful to be a parent.

Well said!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her legal status does not really matter here.
It is easy to blame the system, school and costs, etc. But, ultimately, it isnsibility to make sure your child is well. It is a gross negligence that a parent did not seek help when a child was complainig about pain for a month.

But poor, undocumented people feel like going to the doctor is not an option.

You have OBVIOUSLY not lived in a shelter and had this woman's concerns.

It is easy, from your comfortable living room, knowing what happened to her child, for you to judge her.
But have you taken any action to make health care more available to America's poor Children?

Do you remember this story:

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/jun/13/healthcare-gap-how-can-a-child-die-of-toothache-in-the-us

I suggest you take the time to watch Sicko, which documents the United States' inhumane health care system (compared to other wealthy countries around the globe).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The article said he had been complaining for a month. The school nurse didn’t raise this issue during this month? There are county health departments that offer free medical care. Isn’t the school nurse a mandatory reporter?

Of abuse, not a sick kid (and did he even go to the school nurse??)