Middle School Culture Shock

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I HATE that some of the girls wear such skimpy clothing. Super short shorts and crop tops. I don't let my DD out of the house wearing that kind of thing, BUT, I can't control what she does when she leaves the house. I know she rolls up her shorts and ties up her shirt when she leaves the house. I'm not happy about it, but I can't stop it.

My older DS (now in HS) told me that a lot of girls dress that way in MS, and that the way DD dresses is not out of the ordinary and is also much more tame than some of the other girls in MS. I hate it. I do wish they wore uniforms. It would be so much easier, but when I think back to when I was in MS, I would've hated uniforms, so I don't blame kids who don't want strict uniforms. I just wish they didn't dress like that.

Wouldn't it be great if society, collectively, spent less time condemning the clothing choices of girls and young women? Just imagine what we could do with the mental energy that would free up.

[Anonymous]

I couldn't care less about the cursing. But the substance abuse and p0rn? That is absolutely NOT okay. Trying drinking and drugs at a younger age increases the risk of addiction.
As for p0rn, this is not kids passing around the magazine they found in their dad's dresser - this is access to highly explicit, often violent content that depicts women being abused and degraded. Young women are starting to talk about how its pervasiveness has damaged their relationships. How can any of you throw up your hands at this and chalk it up to kids being kids? We are talking about 11-14 year olds!

[Anonymous]

This is the article I was referencing - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/sex-positivity-feminism.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't care less about the cursing. But the substance abuse and p0rn? That is absolutely NOT okay. Trying drinking and drugs at a younger age increases the risk of addiction.
As for p0rn, this is not kids passing around the magazine they found in their dad's dresser - this is access to highly explicit, often violent content that depicts women being abused and degraded. Young women are starting to talk about how its pervasiveness has damaged their relationships. How can any of you throw up your hands at this and chalk it up to kids being kids? We are talking about 11-14 year olds!

Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't care less about the cursing. But the substance abuse and p0rn? That is absolutely NOT okay. Trying drinking and drugs at a younger age increases the risk of addiction.
As for p0rn, this is not kids passing around the magazine they found in their dad's dresser - this is access to highly explicit, often violent content that depicts women being abused and degraded. Young women are starting to talk about how its pervasiveness has damaged their relationships. How can any of you throw up your hands at this and chalk it up to kids being kids? We are talking about 11-14 year olds!

I’m the parent above who expressed concerns about the porn. I also don’t care about the cursing.

This is definitely my concern. I think some of the parents above might not be aware how truly perverse some of this content is. Ask your kids to tell you about the websites they have learned about at school or through friends. And then, check them out for yourselves.

This is NOTHING like the dirty magazines or videos we used to have access to when we were in MS. It’s on a whole other level. The more depraved, the better, because it gets more views and more attention.

But talk about it on DCUM, and you’re deemed a ‘pearl-clutching Boomer’. Do what works for you and your kids, but I do think it’s detrimental to teens to have access to this kind of content at such a young age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't care less about the cursing. But the substance abuse and p0rn? That is absolutely NOT okay. Trying drinking and drugs at a younger age increases the risk of addiction.
As for p0rn, this is not kids passing around the magazine they found in their dad's dresser - this is access to highly explicit, often violent content that depicts women being abused and degraded. Young women are starting to talk about how its pervasiveness has damaged their relationships. How can any of you throw up your hands at this and chalk it up to kids being kids? We are talking about 11-14 year olds!

I’m the parent above who expressed concerns about the porn. I also don’t care about the cursing.

This is definitely my concern. I think some of the parents above might not be aware how truly perverse some of this content is. Ask your kids to tell you about the websites they have learned about at school or through friends. And then, check them out for yourselves.

This is NOTHING like the dirty magazines or videos we used to have access to when we were in MS. It’s on a whole other level. The more depraved, the better, because it gets more views and more attention.

But talk about it on DCUM, and you’re deemed a ‘pearl-clutching Boomer’. Do what works for you and your kids, but I do think it’s detrimental to teens to have access to this kind of content at such a young age.

Don’t care. Call me a pearl clutched but i don’t want my middle schooler racking up “bodies” in middle school. But yes, that’s what it’s come to middle schoolers conducting lose your virginity contests and who has the highest “body count”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be great if society, collectively, spent less time condemning the clothing choices of girls and young women? Just imagine what we could do with the mental energy that would free up.

Personally I'd rather all the schools switched to uniforms. Sense of unity, reduces class-based inequities. Kids can express themselves well enough through speech, in writing, through the arts and in sports. Much of the world uses them, and for good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so fast about North Bethesda. Was touring programs in the county of 2E a few year ago and NB was the single most rowdy school I saw out of three on the West side.

I witnessed a kid run full sprint - knock down a girl coming out of a class like a linebacker - and my tour guide (assistant principal) did absolutely nothing. Of course the kid just kept going...

That’s about par for the course. Having had 2 at NB within the last few years we are aware of all the really bad things that went on there. Let me tell you, NB is the tamest out of the W/Bethesda middle schools, except for maybe a Tilden. The things our kids told us were happening at Pyle or Westland made the things a PP posted about (child porn, hook ups and vaping) look like every day normal behavior.

Ok, really? What’s happening at Pyle? We’re supposed to send DD there next year but this makes me a bit apprehensive!

I don't think this is typical. There are some groups where the kids are hooking up and vaping, but it's really the minority. You will find this at every school PP so this is not a cause for alarm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember the exact same behavior in the 80s when I was in middle school and I attended a private school.

Seriously doubt that people were treating teachers the same way. I certainly never saw it.

I attended a private middle school in the 90’s and this stuff happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I HATE that some of the girls wear such skimpy clothing. Super short shorts and crop tops. I don't let my DD out of the house wearing that kind of thing, BUT, I can't control what she does when she leaves the house. I know she rolls up her shorts and ties up her shirt when she leaves the house. I'm not happy about it, but I can't stop it.

My older DS (now in HS) told me that a lot of girls dress that way in MS, and that the way DD dresses is not out of the ordinary and is also much more tame than some of the other girls in MS. I hate it. I do wish they wore uniforms. It would be so much easier, but when I think back to when I was in MS, I would've hated uniforms, so I don't blame kids who don't want strict uniforms. I just wish they didn't dress like that.

Wouldn't it be great if society, collectively, spent less time condemning the clothing choices of girls and young women? Just imagine what we could do with the mental energy that would free up.

What? What exactly do you propose the society do with that 'mental energy'?
Enough BS, lady! There's something called 'appropriate attire' and the sooner you and your snowflake figure it out, the better. And I'm still waiting for your proposal regarding collective societal actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember the exact same behavior in the 80s when I was in middle school and I attended a private school.

Seriously doubt that people were treating teachers the same way. I certainly never saw it.

I attended a private middle school in the 90’s and this stuff happened.

So did I. This never happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so fast about North Bethesda. Was touring programs in the county of 2E a few year ago and NB was the single most rowdy school I saw out of three on the West side.

I witnessed a kid run full sprint - knock down a girl coming out of a class like a linebacker - and my tour guide (assistant principal) did absolutely nothing. Of course the kid just kept going...

That’s about par for the course. Having had 2 at NB within the last few years we are aware of all the really bad things that went on there. Let me tell you, NB is the tamest out of the W/Bethesda middle schools, except for maybe a Tilden. The things our kids told us were happening at Pyle or Westland made the things a PP posted about (child porn, hook ups and vaping) look like every day normal behavior.

Ok, really? What’s happening at Pyle? We’re supposed to send DD there next year but this makes me a bit apprehensive!

I don't think this is typical. There are some groups where the kids are hooking up and vaping, but it's really the minority. You will find this at every school PP so this is not a cause for alarm.

No, the minority aren’t . The majority are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be great if society, collectively, spent less time condemning the clothing choices of girls and young women? Just imagine what we could do with the mental energy that would free up.

Personally I'd rather all the schools switched to uniforms. Sense of unity, reduces class-based inequities. Kids can express themselves well enough through speech, in writing, through the arts and in sports. Much of the world uses them, and for good reason[b].

Not only much of the world, but the overwhelming majority of private schools that cost pretty penny to attend and enroll children of the elites. Meanwhile, idiots at DCUM are harping about 'freedom' for public school 6th graders to walk around half-naked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember the exact same behavior in the 80s when I was in middle school and I attended a private school.

Rich kids behaving poorly.

Not like the public school kids. Not even close. They may be rich but private schools have discipline and standards.

Lmao.

Rich private schools have speedballs and threesomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No, the minority aren’t . The majority are.

Please cite your information source for the majority of Pyle MS students hooking up and vaping?