Middle School Culture Shock

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Anonymous wrote:So thankful my kids do distance learning/homeschool. They spend time with kids who still act like kids and there's none of these issues.


Questioning authority and adopting adult behaviors actually is acting like kids, though - for kids who are in middle school.


Agreed and eventually kids are exposed to porn / drugs / swearing / skimpy clothes (not necessarily in that order). How will they handle that? Know several young people who got their taste of freedom and went off the deep end. If you think that only “bad, unloved, public school” kids become [b]drug addicts and find themselves in very unhappy relationships think again.




That's a stretch. I don't think that prolonging childhood into the young teen years will lead to those problems. The homeschool children and families we know have similar values and want to give their kids time to mature. When they come across all these things, they will be older and more mature and in a much better position to handle these things than a 10 year old. My 9 yo nephew learned what "tossed salad" was at school. No one needs to know that. So glad we can choose our kids' cohorts.


Your post makes no sense. "tossed salad" is a silly example. My child eats tons of salad but we don't use the term tossed salad so what's the difference. How you feed your kids has nothing to do with school. If you want to keep your kids in a bubble go for it but that's also not health for them and depending on how you homeschool they may not be getting the proper education.


PP, you could have looked up "tossed salad" before talking about food. If you are trying to give a cute response, you missed the mark.
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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes have to remind myself that many of you come from cultures where your parents had arranged marriages, that even you were probably virgins when you married. I'm not making value judgments about those choices--I just hope they WERE choices--but it must color how you view your bodies and your daughters' bodies and what you teach your sons. It is probably not a coincidence that some of those countries also have disturbingly high percentages of rape and teen marriage. But again, no judgment. My grandma was a teen bride as well, although I'm not sure it was her shorts that led her to ruin, morelike the War. And the South.

and sometimes I have to remind myself that some of you were promiscuous as young teens. Probably were having sex at 13, and allowing their teens to have sex at home because you think it's "better" to do it at home than in a car or some such.

You know.. even some of the Hooter waitresses are blasting their new uniforms, which are even more revealing than the previous uniform. Why not let your 12 yr old wear the hooters uniform to school?


Shorter PP: Slut-shaming? Fine with me! Sluts should be shamed!


if you are 13 and sexually active, that's pretty terrible. I would not want my 13 yr old DD hanging out with girls like that. I knew at least 4 girls who got pregnant by 16. None of them were the academic types. They barely graduated HS.
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Anonymous wrote:I remember the exact same behavior in the 80s when I was in middle school and I attended a private school.


Rich kids behaving poorly.


Not like the public school kids. Not even close. They may be rich but private schools have discipline and standards.


+2 this kind of behavior is truly not an issue at our private middle school. My child actually went to public for elementary so I am not against public education!



Nice that you think that. My friend is a teacher at a private and let me just say, you are wrong. You just haven’t heard or seen it.
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Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[i][/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


They also watch "name any other cartoon" porn. Singling out anime is lazy.
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Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[i][/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.

How do you know? At school, we have go guardian so I can see what all the kids are doing in my class. What are you doing that you [i]think
works?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.

How do you know? At school, we have go guardian so I can see what all the kids are doing in my class. What are you doing that you think works?
(damn broken tags.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.

How do you know? At school, we have go guardian so I can see what all the kids are doing in my class. What are you doing that you [i]think
works?


We monitor everything. And, we don’t use school computers so we can monitor it. Kids use desk tops were we can see the screens. We have access to everything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.

How do you know? At school, we have go guardian so I can see what all the kids are doing in my class. What are you doing that you [i]think
works?


We monitor everything. And, we don’t use school computers so we can monitor it. Kids use desk tops were we can see the screens. We have access to everything.


So you collect their chromebooks when they come home?

Have you found the hidden tor browser?

My brother's kid got a bootable linux usb stick with a vpn connection. When they weren't looking, she booted their PC up with it and bypassed all the monitoring/logging stuff. You can't watch tweens and teens like toddlers. Or if you do, you'll mess them up worse.
Anonymous
I’m less worried about MS culture shock than College Culture shock where kids have a lot more freedom and the consequences and cost are much higher, and so are the expectations. I distinctly remember college and the sheltered kids 👀. It was like Whoa Child slow down you’ve got 4 years to get the fun done, no need to hit the throttle this hard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.

How do you know? At school, we have go guardian so I can see what all the kids are doing in my class. What are you doing that you [i]think
works?


We monitor everything. And, we don’t use school computers so we can monitor it. Kids use desk tops were we can see the screens. We have access to everything.


So you collect their chromebooks when they come home?

Have you found the hidden tor browser?

My brother's kid got a bootable linux usb stick with a vpn connection. When they weren't looking, she booted their PC up with it and bypassed all the monitoring/logging stuff. You can't watch tweens and teens like toddlers. Or if you do, you'll mess them up worse.


We don’t have an mcps chrome book. We simply never picked one up. Mcps lied when they said you cannot do things like testing on your own computer. Actually you can watch your kids and monitor those things. Because you don’t is why they do it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sometimes have to remind myself that many of you come from cultures where your parents had arranged marriages, that even you were probably virgins when you married. I'm not making value judgments about those choices--I just hope they WERE choices--but it must color how you view your bodies and your daughters' bodies and what you teach your sons. It is probably not a coincidence that some of those countries also have disturbingly high percentages of rape and teen marriage. But again, no judgment. My grandma was a teen bride as well, although I'm not sure it was her shorts that led her to ruin, morelike the War. And the South.

Wait....so you think progressive women are fine with MS girls wearing inappropriate clothing to school?

Nope.

I'll ask again.. why don't you let your MSer where her underwear to school?


Wear? When my daughter was in MS she had sensory issues and developed an affection for specific clothes, some of which she wore even when they got short, even when they got tight. We talked about it, but I struck a balance between not shaming her and suggesting alternatives. From what I saw, even her NT peers did this to some extent. These girls were growling like six inches in a year.

Why are you so hellbent on shaming your own daughter?

Follow up question: how IS her diet? She fake eating salads at dinner?


Tossed salads!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not just swearing, but also watching anime on Chromebook, and disobeying the teachers, etc.


Oh no! Watching anime! Etc.!


[/b]What's wrong with anime?[b] Not all of it is bad. The swearing and disobeying teachers is a parenting issue. It doesn't matter where or how they go to school but you need to make it unacceptable in your home. And, don't use a chromebook at home so you can monitor what goes on.


The kids at my middle school are watching anime porn so…

Signed,
A school psychologist


SO, if they are doing it at your school on the school computers, what are YOU doing about it? its not happening in our home.

How do you know? At school, we have go guardian so I can see what all the kids are doing in my class. What are you doing that you [i]think
works?


We monitor everything. And, we don’t use school computers so we can monitor it. Kids use desk tops were we can see the screens. We have access to everything.


So you collect their chromebooks when they come home?

Have you found the hidden tor browser?

My brother's kid got a bootable linux usb stick with a vpn connection. When they weren't looking, she booted their PC up with it and bypassed all the monitoring/logging stuff. You can't watch tweens and teens like toddlers. Or if you do, you'll mess them up worse.


We don’t have an mcps chrome book. We simply never picked one up. Mcps lied when they said you cannot do things like testing on your own computer. Actually you can watch your kids and monitor those things. Because you don’t is why they do it.

Interesting. What do your kids use in class when they are expected to have their chromebook? Middle school kids generally use them in most classes most days.

And of course by "interesting" I'm calling "bullsh*t". Having no chromebook worked in virtual, but no more. And if your kids are in the VA, then their experience really doesn't have bearing on this thread.
Anonymous
Am reading this and have newfound appreciation for my 12 year old middle schooler who, when I bought her two crop tops this summer, asked whether I could buy her some shirts that covered her whole stomach. We are in private school also and can confirm that at least at our school the kids are not disrespectful to the teachers although they do talk badly about some of them with their peers. There are some heavy crushes but not hearing about sex, porn and my DD is very open - too much, actually. That said I do remember by 8th grade, in my public middle school, that I had seen and heard a lot - my eyes were definitely opened by kids who had pretty lenient parents.
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Anonymous wrote:Am reading this and have newfound appreciation for my 12 year old middle schooler who, when I bought her two crop tops this summer, asked whether I could buy her some shirts that covered her whole stomach. We are in private school also and can confirm that at least at our school the kids are not disrespectful to the teachers although they do talk badly about some of them with their peers. There are some heavy crushes but not hearing about sex, porn and my DD is very open - too much, actually. That said I do remember by 8th grade, in my public middle school, that I had seen and heard a lot - my eyes were definitely opened by kids who had pretty lenient parents.


You know there is a private school board you can talk about your private school on. Crop tops are no big deal.
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