2022 US News Best National Universities
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Anonymous
Perhaps in agriculture. . . |
Anonymous
California has a higher percentage that are Pell eligible than Virginia |
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These rankings are not determined soley on Pell grants and whoever keeps posting this is wrong. That has barely any weight.
The administration and faculty of my university know the importance of how our school ranks in the US News and World Report National University annual ranking and how other schools are ranked in comparison. All the schools know the importance of the ranking. It’s not simply potential applicants looking at the results, the schools very much care how they are ranked. |
Anonymous
Well that was true 60 years ago. How old are you? |
Anonymous
Iowa is a good school. I didn’t attend but it should not be that low I wonder if diversity issues affect the ranking |
Anonymous
Have to admit it, New York does give off one massive edge (and will only get bigger), especially going into the 21st century with young people pouring into the cities. Plus it's an Ivy and people associate it with Wall Street and so on. It will only keep rising in rankings, popularity, and prestige as long as it gets to keep a top 5 ranking and more people move into the cities. Even COVID-19 won't reverse this trend. Columbia was historically a top 3 school during the 1960s, then urban decay and white flight during the 70s and 80s brought it to the verge of bankruptcy along with the rest of New York. Lots of good professors gone and students left. There were also campus riots. But now it's on a comeback. I went to an HYP for undergrad and knew kids from Columbia. Spent time in Morningside Heights as a grad student too. Back in the days it was probably the least desirable Ivy. Just went coed, situated in a dangerous neighborhood inside a dangerous city. It was just plain dirty and filthy. There were some high achievers from local publics like Stuy or Bronx Science but a lot more were just the urban, hipster, and creative types who are dead set on living in a city and won't really consider anywhere else, those from my prep school who went there mostly didn't really fit in but at Columbia those misfits were the mainstream. John Lennon's son went there - which probably gives you a general idea of their student body. Now the city experience has drastically improved and the demographics is lot more like HYP, plus a lot of international wealth, more so than you can imagine. The international wealthy don't send their kids to Princeton or Yale anymore (or never to begin with) but to schools in big cities like Harvard, Columbia, or Penn/Wharton. Would I have gone to Columbia in 2021 instead? Probably. DS is also looking into Columbia and didn't even bother looking at my alma mater. Duke used to be that high, like really high, when everyone was moving into the suburbs and the countryside during the 80s and 90s, then it just stopped being popular and went into decline in rankings on all fronts: Forbes, US News, you name it, because it no longer has the pull for high-achieving kids these days. Was #12 last year I think, first time in 40 years it fell out of the rankings. How times have changed! Unless it's a southern school, it's also no longer the top college where all the prep school kids would go outside of HYP or Dartmouth (was the #4 ivy back in my age). To give you an example, Andover used to send a dozen kids to Duke every year but in 2021, just one. Eight or nine went to Columbia. Exeter sent 40 to Columbia in the past 3 years but just 5 to Duke. |
Anonymous
| celebrity offspring/really rich kids/legacy/athletes still dominate their admissions |
Anonymous
| UVA #4 public. Still number 4. |
Anonymous
You sound like quite the narcissist. Anyway, Morningside Heights has been a fairly safe neighborhood throughout the entire time period you are describing. And Duke is still right up there. Its reputation doesn’t hinge on how many kids from one prep school get in or decide to go there. |
Anonymous
| Going forward, HYPSM is now CHYPSM. |
Anonymous
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So do you all seriously think that Columbia is now a "better" school than it was last year just because of the ranking shuffle?
All of these schools that go up or down a few spots are essentially the same schools that they were a year ago. |
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Wow. A surprise and a not so surprising.
Wake Forest— not a surprise. I graduated in the 1990s, a couple years before they went test optional. They were hanging out between 25 and 30 then, and we always one already of or one behind UNC. Haven’t moved since. Pitt at 59. Same ranking as UMD-CP. Wow. My kid already has a Pitt acceptance didn’t realize they were so high— or UMD-CP was so low. What’s up with that? |
Anonymous
It was 30 before. This is not out of the blue. |
Anonymous
It was 3 last year tied with Yale, it's 2 now tied with Harvard. |
Anonymous
| LOL at the folks who don't think Columbia is as good as HYP. Where have you people been? |