2022 US News Best National Universities

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a top 25 school.

Please stop.

I mean, it is. I had two kids go there, in state. All the prestige at a fraction of the cost. Just saying.

UVA doesn't have "all the prestige" of a Stanford, an Ivy, MIT, Chicago, Duke, or Northwestern. Sorry if you need a refresher on this.

When you tell someone you're from Virginia and went to UVA, they think "yea, makes sense. likely Ivy material, but yea -- makes sense."

Nope. They think OK, UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Or it makes sense the same way someone from Evansville goes to the University of Indiana.

I know they're good in basketball. Bobby Knight was the coach there right?

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Anonymous wrote:I personally like the WSJ and Forbes rankings better

Ok, no one forced you to look at US News.

No one actually pays attention to the WSJ and Forbes rankings because like it or not, US News is the only ranking people actually care about.

+1. Still is to this day, the golden standard of college rankings, whether you like it or not. You don't simply see that big of a hype when WSJ/Forbes rankings came out, which is why Forbes desperately tries to change the methodology this year to gain more attention.

Many of us only care because we resent the distortion it causes in higher education. I care that it goes away. Universities and colleges spend way too much money, time and expertise on climbing the rankings.

The rankings are also quite meaningless in term of specific program quality. Some are quite low down overall but in top ten - even number 1 in some cases - for specific programs (UC Davis for vet science for eg).

There is ample evidence that the US News college ranking race contributes heavily to insane college costs and undervalues public education, which is the driver of most social economic mobility. WSJ rankings are even worse for bias against many excellent public schools.

I do agree though that US News college rankings are the most influential. This does not serve many public goods though. Together with appalling underfunding of quality public education, the college rankings system contributes to unrealistic understandings about what college matter among youth, sky high college tuition fees, and massive student debts.

Maybe Congress/ Senate should create a University Magna Carta (Great Charter for university and college students) / a charter for University student rights and (906 years after the first one granted by King John under threat of civil war).

We need laws to protect students from unreasonable student debts, minimum funding for quality public schools, and restraints on private colleges from manipulating students with no chance of admission to apply to their colleges in order to drive up their rejection and selectivity rates for US News rankings.

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