s/o please stop derailing/diagnosis lawyering/etc

[Anonymous]

I just reported a bunch of posts on the thread about the 22 month old with global delays. This board can be a great resource, but not if people nitpick other people's diagnoses and derail the threads from actually responding to the OP and providing useful information. If you feel like a PP is suggesting something risky (like delaying assessment or services) then by all means say that, but tone it down and avoid derailing and trying to argue with people about their own childrens' conditions (unless they have specifically asked for input about it).

[Anonymous]

Being ignorant is not a diagnosis.

There is a difference between delays and disorders. When your kid is past preschool age and still needs speech therapy--that's not a late bloomer. That is technically a disorder according to ASHA:

http://blog.asha.org/2015/04/14/language-delay-versus-a-disorder/
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/LateBlooming.htm


Yes, some people smoke 5 packs a day and never develop lung cancer. Some people never vaccinate their kids and they don't get sick. It doesn't mean that these are based on any scientific evidence. However, the information by ASHA is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being ignorant is not a diagnosis.

There is a difference between delays and disorders. When your kid is past preschool age and still needs speech therapy--that's not a late bloomer. That is technically a disorder according to ASHA:

http://blog.asha.org/2015/04/14/language-delay-versus-a-disorder/
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/LateBlooming.htm


Yes, some people smoke 5 packs a day and never develop lung cancer. Some people never vaccinate their kids and they don't get sick. It doesn't mean that these are based on any scientific evidence. However, the information by ASHA is.

Ok? Do you feel better if people refer to their children as disordered? why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being ignorant is not a diagnosis.

There is a difference between delays and disorders. When your kid is past preschool age and still needs speech therapy--that's not a late bloomer. That is technically a disorder according to ASHA:

http://blog.asha.org/2015/04/14/language-delay-versus-a-disorder/
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/LateBlooming.htm


Yes, some people smoke 5 packs a day and never develop lung cancer. Some people never vaccinate their kids and they don't get sick. It doesn't mean that these are based on any scientific evidence. However, the information by ASHA is.

Ok? Do you feel better if people refer to their children as disordered? why?

Ok? Are you illiterate? A disorder--not disordered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being ignorant is not a diagnosis.

There is a difference between delays and disorders. When your kid is past preschool age and still needs speech therapy--that's not a late bloomer. That is technically a disorder according to ASHA:

http://blog.asha.org/2015/04/14/language-delay-versus-a-disorder/
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/LateBlooming.htm


Yes, some people smoke 5 packs a day and never develop lung cancer. Some people never vaccinate their kids and they don't get sick. It doesn't mean that these are based on any scientific evidence. However, the information by ASHA is.

Ok? Do you feel better if people refer to their children as disordered? why?

Ok? Are you illiterate? A disorder--not disordered.

What on earth is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

That poster has a toddler. It is a delay. When kids become school aged it is a disorder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being ignorant is not a diagnosis.

There is a difference between delays and disorders. When your kid is past preschool age and still needs speech therapy--that's not a late bloomer. That is technically a disorder according to ASHA:

http://blog.asha.org/2015/04/14/language-delay-versus-a-disorder/
http://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/LateBlooming.htm


Yes, some people smoke 5 packs a day and never develop lung cancer. Some people never vaccinate their kids and they don't get sick. It doesn't mean that these are based on any scientific evidence. However, the information by ASHA is.

Ok? Do you feel better if people refer to their children as disordered? why?

Ok? Are you illiterate? A disorder--not disordered.

What on earth is wrong with you?

OP, stop being a busy body for 10 seconds and actually read the information by ASHA. Hopefully, you will understand what a language disorder is and how it differs from a speech delay. Feel free to come back to ask for any clarifications.

You should also stop deleting posts just b/c you disagree. BTW, ASHA is the national professional, scientific, and credentialing association for 186000 members and affiliates who are audiologists; speech-language pathologists.

[Anonymous]

I have a child who is severely disabled and has no diagnosis. She is 10 years old. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Many families wait years or never get a diagnosis.

People are free to use whatever terms describe their situation -- especially since so many kids fall through the cracks. Stop expecting order where there isn't any. You sound like you have problems yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That poster has a toddler. It is a delay. When kids become school aged it is a disorder.

Right, but doing nothing but speech from when kids are toddlers continuing well into elementary school without evaluating why they still need speech is crappy advice and shows a real lack of understanding of speech development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is severely disabled and has no diagnosis. She is 10 years old. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Many families wait years or never get a diagnosis.

People are free to use whatever terms describe their situation -- especially since so many kids fall through the cracks. Stop expecting order where there isn't any. You sound like you have problems yourself.

Maybe you missed the posts, but the poster was a mom with older children who never had them evaluated. So you don't have a diagnosis is you never look either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is severely disabled and has no diagnosis. She is 10 years old. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Many families wait years or never get a diagnosis.

People are free to use whatever terms describe their situation -- especially since so many kids fall through the cracks. Stop expecting order where there isn't any. You sound like you have problems yourself.

Maybe you missed the posts, but the poster was a mom with older children who never had them evaluated. So you don't have a diagnosis is you never look either.

How do you know they've never been evaluated? If they are in speech therapy, in order at least for our insurance to pay, they have to be regularly evaluated. Not all kids need a neuropsych. We've never had one. Big deal. It isn't going to tell us anything more than the many other evaluations we have had.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That poster has a toddler. It is a delay. When kids become school aged it is a disorder.

Right, but doing nothing but speech from when kids are toddlers continuing well into elementary school without evaluating why they still need speech is crappy advice and shows a real lack of understanding of speech development.

We only did speech. We tried ABA and it was a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is severely disabled and has no diagnosis. She is 10 years old. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Many families wait years or never get a diagnosis.

People are free to use whatever terms describe their situation -- especially since so many kids fall through the cracks. Stop expecting order where there isn't any. You sound like you have problems yourself.

Maybe you missed the posts, but the poster was a mom with older children who never had them evaluated. So you don't have a diagnosis is you never look either.

How do you know they've never been evaluated? If they are in speech therapy, in order at least for our insurance to pay, they have to be regularly evaluated. Not all kids need a neuropsych. We've never had one. Big deal. It isn't going to tell us anything more than the many other evaluations we have had.

That's what the mother said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That poster has a toddler. It is a delay. When kids become school aged it is a disorder.

Right, but doing nothing but speech from when kids are toddlers continuing well into elementary school without evaluating why they still need speech is crappy advice and shows a real lack of understanding of speech development.

We only did speech. We tried ABA and it was a waste of time.

Yes, and you've never accepted your autism diagnosis either I bet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is severely disabled and has no diagnosis. She is 10 years old. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Many families wait years or never get a diagnosis.

People are free to use whatever terms describe their situation -- especially since so many kids fall through the cracks. Stop expecting order where there isn't any. You sound like you have problems yourself.

Maybe you missed the posts, but the poster was a mom with older children who never had them evaluated. So you don't have a diagnosis is you never look either.

How do you know they've never been evaluated? If they are in speech therapy, in order at least for our insurance to pay, they have to be regularly evaluated. Not all kids need a neuropsych. We've never had one. Big deal. It isn't going to tell us anything more than the many other evaluations we have had.

That's what the mother said.

I am that mother! You misunderstood me. My older son has been evaluated by his pediatricians (several), ENT's, a half dozen SLP's, had a full scale WISC administered by a psychologist, and seen a neuroscientist who is an expert in apraxia. Everyone concluded that he seems to have low-ish time and multiple major articulation errors. All that and nobody knows why. So we focus on the what and thank God he is getting better with therapy and time. Same story to a lesser degree with ds2.