Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Raided the Principal who Fritts said wanted Overton to be the HC…. Keep lying to yourself.
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What is WFHS? If you mean Westfield, then that’s a lie. I can’t speak for many of the schools, but I know for a fact that Westfield had kids who lived in Centreville’s zone and South Lakes’ zone playing football.


I can't speak to the current situation at Westfield. In the past, I do recall one student who transferred there thinking he would get a better chance to succeed on the football team--it did not work out well for him at all.

As for South Lakes zoned kids, I dont' know about the current situation, but a lot of South Lakes zoned kids were inP ane in what was once a Westfield zone. Since Westfield is AP, and South Lakes is IB, I would assume it is relatively easy to pupil place at Westfield.
I don't know about the Centreville kids.

The pupil placement system has always been abused for sports--but it is not illegal.
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Anonymous wrote:If you guys wouldn’t have done all the hating on Hayfield, an fcps school would have brought home the state championship.


Bless your heart.


As a taxpaying citizen of Fairfax County, I don't give a flying about FCPS high school football---what I do care is about the integrity of the school system and fair play, not just in football but in all aspects of the system. Hayfield and its cheating football and the horrowshow it has caused, plus cover-up by administration, is a dark stain on FCPS!

This wasn’t about integrity. This was more about privilege and entitlement.


No, it was the false entitlement of Coach Overton and all around him (who wrongfully believe that white privilege is involved) that broke the overriding more important integrity of the FCPS system---enabled in part by DEI gone amok!

The entitlement is feeling that a Black coach and Black kids aren’t allowed to play by the same rules as a white coach and white kids. The privilege is when high ranking FCPS members violate the Black coaches and players to appease white supremacists in the county that so badly want to stop the program from winning a championship.


Wait, what? So you're ok with a coach doing what he did just because he's black?!?!? If you know of others, report them.

There has been no proof that he violated any rules. All his players were eligible even after the VHSL got involved. They barred the team from the post season because the team had too many transfers. Transfers are allowed and when they investigated the transfers, they were found to be legit.


Everything you just wrote appears to be unequivocally false based on the reporting I've seen.
Can you share where you are getting your facts from? MANY of the transfers were illegitimate

If they were illegitimate, why would they still allow the kids to compete?



VHSL didn't.

Maybe stay in your lane.

The VHSL allowed Hayfield to finish the season, they just didn’t want them winning the championship.






What a laughably stupid comment. It was the other FCPS coaches who met with Reid and threatened to forfeit their first round playoff games after they showed her the text messages from Monty Fritts that forced her hand, (after the FCPS court let them play) Then the Fairfax Times dropped those messages a few days later. Dr. Thompson knew the jig was up, and he withdrew Hayfield from the playoffs. The VHSL did its job, and enforced its rules.

They were scared to play. A good coach will prepare their team as best as possible. Then hold their heads high and compete.


A good coach develops his own players and doesn't have to ship 20+ in to win. That you don't understand that speaks volumes.
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What is WFHS? If you mean Westfield, then that’s a lie. I can’t speak for many of the schools, but I know for a fact that Westfield had kids who lived in Centreville’s zone and South Lakes’ zone playing football.


I can't speak to the current situation at Westfield. In the past, I do recall one student who transferred there thinking he would get a better chance to succeed on the football team--it did not work out well for him at all.

As for South Lakes zoned kids, I dont' know about the current situation, but a lot of South Lakes zoned kids were inP ane in what was once a Westfield zone. Since Westfield is AP, and South Lakes is IB, I would assume it is relatively easy to pupil place at Westfield.
I don't know about the Centreville kids.

The pupil placement system has always been abused for sports--but it is not illegal.




Uh ....South Lakes and Westfield are both in Fairfax County. What happened with Freedom kids transferring to Hayfield was between two SEPARATE counties and school systems....and apparently abusing a federal law regarding homeless students. Comparing legitimate pupil placements within the same school system with what happened at Hayfield is apples and oranges.



https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/a-complete-failure-of-leadership-at-fcps/article_0b6e0154-c183-11ef-aaa2-538bc6d16e90.html
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What is WFHS? If you mean Westfield, then that’s a lie. I can’t speak for many of the schools, but I know for a fact that Westfield had kids who lived in Centreville’s zone and South Lakes’ zone playing football.


I can't speak to the current situation at Westfield. In the past, I do recall one student who transferred there thinking he would get a better chance to succeed on the football team--it did not work out well for him at all.

As for South Lakes zoned kids, I dont' know about the current situation, but a lot of South Lakes zoned kids were inP ane in what was once a Westfield zone. Since Westfield is AP, and South Lakes is IB, I would assume it is relatively easy to pupil place at Westfield.
I don't know about the Centreville kids.

The pupil placement system has always been abused for sports--but it is not illegal.




Uh ....South Lakes and Westfield are both in Fairfax County. What happened with Freedom kids transferring to Hayfield was between two SEPARATE counties and school systems....and apparently abusing a federal law regarding homeless students. Comparing legitimate pupil placements within the same school system with what happened at Hayfield is apples and oranges.



https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/a-complete-failure-of-leadership-at-fcps/article_0b6e0154-c183-11ef-aaa2-538bc6d16e90.html



Sums the whole situation up so well:

"The most shocking aspect of this event has been the monumental failure of leadership at all levels of the Fairfax County Public School system. How could a high school principal run so far off the rails and not be corrected before he dug himself so deep into a hole? Whistleblowing staff was transferred, unqualified staff was hired (Overton), parent complaints were ignored, staff members acted outside of their authority, Virginia High School League (VHSL) rules were ignored, students were mistreated, and the list goes on. It is apparent that multiple levels of leadership above the principal were aware of the nefarious conduct and chose to ignore or conceal it. Likewise, as the information rose to the superintendent, she either failed to grasp the emerging facts or was afraid to act for whatever reason. We have every right to expect more from a leader in her position, and her degree of involvement is in question. Most of the school board took no action, with one member even defending the conduct by indicating that this was the only way these kids (transferred football players) would get into college. So if they cheat but the outcome is achieved, that’s acceptable. Is this the ethics we are modeling to our students? The only reasonable conclusion at this point is that FCPS leaders, including the superintendent and even the School Board, are potentially implicated to some degree in the misconduct."
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What is WFHS? If you mean Westfield, then that’s a lie. I can’t speak for many of the schools, but I know for a fact that Westfield had kids who lived in Centreville’s zone and South Lakes’ zone playing football.


I can't speak to the current situation at Westfield. In the past, I do recall one student who transferred there thinking he would get a better chance to succeed on the football team--it did not work out well for him at all.

As for South Lakes zoned kids, I dont' know about the current situation, but a lot of South Lakes zoned kids were inP ane in what was once a Westfield zone. Since Westfield is AP, and South Lakes is IB, I would assume it is relatively easy to pupil place at Westfield.
I don't know about the Centreville kids.

The pupil placement system has always been abused for sports--but it is not illegal.




Uh ....South Lakes and Westfield are both in Fairfax County. What happened with Freedom kids transferring to Hayfield was between two SEPARATE counties and school systems....and apparently abusing a federal law regarding homeless students. Comparing legitimate pupil placements within the same school system with what happened at Hayfield is apples and oranges.



https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/a-complete-failure-of-leadership-at-fcps/article_0b6e0154-c183-11ef-aaa2-538bc6d16e90.html



Sums the whole situation up so well:

"The most shocking aspect of this event has been the monumental failure of leadership at all levels of the Fairfax County Public School system. How could a high school principal run so far off the rails and not be corrected before he dug himself so deep into a hole? Whistleblowing staff was transferred, unqualified staff was hired (Overton), parent complaints were ignored, staff members acted outside of their authority, Virginia High School League (VHSL) rules were ignored, students were mistreated, and the list goes on. It is apparent that multiple levels of leadership above the principal were aware of the nefarious conduct and chose to ignore or conceal it. Likewise, as the information rose to the superintendent, she either failed to grasp the emerging facts or was afraid to act for whatever reason. We have every right to expect more from a leader in her position, and her degree of involvement is in question. Most of the school board took no action, with one member even defending the conduct by indicating that this was the only way these kids (transferred football players) would get into college. So if they cheat but the outcome is achieved, that’s acceptable. Is this the ethics we are modeling to our students? The only reasonable conclusion at this point is that FCPS leaders, including the superintendent and even the School Board, are potentially implicated to some degree in the misconduct."


Yes - and actually the most pertinent point shown below. Right now FCPS is trying to gaslight whole situation by suggesting an "external" review will be helpful - but it's one which is paid for and managed (i.e. the results are at the discretion of) by FCPS ITSELF. This is no better than another internal review that will be as stage managed as the previous ones.

"Unfortunately, this is why an outside investigation paid for by FCPS and reported back to FCPS leadership for review is wholly insufficient. Given the potential complicity and concealment that FCPS leaders, including the superintendent and School Board, have demonstrated, the investigation must be separated from Fairfax County Public Schools."

Our community/stakeholders/school board should demand better. External investigation that has NO INFLUENCE by FCPS itself.
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What is WFHS? If you mean Westfield, then that’s a lie. I can’t speak for many of the schools, but I know for a fact that Westfield had kids who lived in Centreville’s zone and South Lakes’ zone playing football.


I can't speak to the current situation at Westfield. In the past, I do recall one student who transferred there thinking he would get a better chance to succeed on the football team--it did not work out well for him at all.

As for South Lakes zoned kids, I dont' know about the current situation, but a lot of South Lakes zoned kids were inP ane in what was once a Westfield zone. Since Westfield is AP, and South Lakes is IB, I would assume it is relatively easy to pupil place at Westfield.
I don't know about the Centreville kids.

The pupil placement system has always been abused for sports--but it is not illegal.




Uh ....South Lakes and Westfield are both in Fairfax County. What happened with Freedom kids transferring to Hayfield was between two SEPARATE counties and school systems....and apparently abusing a federal law regarding homeless students. Comparing legitimate pupil placements within the same school system with what happened at Hayfield is apples and oranges.



https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/a-complete-failure-of-leadership-at-fcps/article_0b6e0154-c183-11ef-aaa2-538bc6d16e90.html

John Champe isn’t in Fairfax County.
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Anonymous wrote:If you guys wouldn’t have done all the hating on Hayfield, an fcps school would have brought home the state championship.


Bless your heart.


As a taxpaying citizen of Fairfax County, I don't give a flying about FCPS high school football---what I do care is about the integrity of the school system and fair play, not just in football but in all aspects of the system. Hayfield and its cheating football and the horrowshow it has caused, plus cover-up by administration, is a dark stain on FCPS!

This wasn’t about integrity. This was more about privilege and entitlement.


No, it was the false entitlement of Coach Overton and all around him (who wrongfully believe that white privilege is involved) that broke the overriding more important integrity of the FCPS system---enabled in part by DEI gone amok!

The entitlement is feeling that a Black coach and Black kids aren’t allowed to play by the same rules as a white coach and white kids. The privilege is when high ranking FCPS members violate the Black coaches and players to appease white supremacists in the county that so badly want to stop the program from winning a championship.


Wait, what? So you're ok with a coach doing what he did just because he's black?!?!? If you know of others, report them.

There has been no proof that he violated any rules. All his players were eligible even after the VHSL got involved. They barred the team from the post season because the team had too many transfers. Transfers are allowed and when they investigated the transfers, they were found to be legit.


Everything you just wrote appears to be unequivocally false based on the reporting I've seen.
Can you share where you are getting your facts from? MANY of the transfers were illegitimate

If they were illegitimate, why would they still allow the kids to compete?



VHSL didn't.

Maybe stay in your lane.

The VHSL allowed Hayfield to finish the season, they just didn’t want them winning the championship.






What a laughably stupid comment. It was the other FCPS coaches who met with Reid and threatened to forfeit their first round playoff games after they showed her the text messages from Monty Fritts that forced her hand, (after the FCPS court let them play) Then the Fairfax Times dropped those messages a few days later. Dr. Thompson knew the jig was up, and he withdrew Hayfield from the playoffs. The VHSL did its job, and enforced its rules.

They were scared to play. A good coach will prepare their team as best as possible. Then hold their heads high and compete.


A good coach develops his own players and doesn't have to ship 20+ in to win. That you don't understand that speaks volumes.

He didn’t ship anyone in. With that small salary of his, he can’t afford to move any kids into a school zone. The kid’s parents would’ve had to do that.
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What is WFHS? If you mean Westfield, then that’s a lie. I can’t speak for many of the schools, but I know for a fact that Westfield had kids who lived in Centreville’s zone and South Lakes’ zone playing football.


I can't speak to the current situation at Westfield. In the past, I do recall one student who transferred there thinking he would get a better chance to succeed on the football team--it did not work out well for him at all.

As for South Lakes zoned kids, I dont' know about the current situation, but a lot of South Lakes zoned kids were inP ane in what was once a Westfield zone. Since Westfield is AP, and South Lakes is IB, I would assume it is relatively easy to pupil place at Westfield.
I don't know about the Centreville kids.

The pupil placement system has always been abused for sports--but it is not illegal.




Uh ....South Lakes and Westfield are both in Fairfax County. What happened with Freedom kids transferring to Hayfield was between two SEPARATE counties and school systems....and apparently abusing a federal law regarding homeless students. Comparing legitimate pupil placements within the same school system with what happened at Hayfield is apples and oranges.



https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/a-complete-failure-of-leadership-at-fcps/article_0b6e0154-c183-11ef-aaa2-538bc6d16e90.html

John Champe isn’t in Fairfax County.


I don't know anything about John Champe. However, I have known a divorced family where the kids split their time between the two parents. They stayed with their mom in Fairfax County half time and with their dad in Loudoun half time. They went to school in Fairfax county. This was not just a "school week and weekend" division.
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The Champe kid was also repeatedly turned away by Westfield’s administration until the family finally figured out a way in. Unlike Hayfield, Westfield has been actively denying athletic transfers instead of finding ways to get around the rules.
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Anonymous wrote:The Champe kid was also repeatedly turned away by Westfield’s administration until the family finally figured out a way in. Unlike Hayfield, Westfield has been actively denying athletic transfers instead of finding ways to get around the rules.

So they kept denying the kids knowing they wanted to come there for athletics, but they found a way in and the school is now allowing them to participate in athletics. Sounds like the kids transferred for athletics to me.
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Agree, only an idiot would think they could push through 31 such moves…
Westfield did their part. The county allowed it. None of that type of scrutiny or accountability took place at Hayfield…. And they did it 31 times.
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Anonymous wrote:If you guys wouldn’t have done all the hating on Hayfield, an fcps school would have brought home the state championship.


Bless your heart.


As a taxpaying citizen of Fairfax County, I don't give a flying about FCPS high school football---what I do care is about the integrity of the school system and fair play, not just in football but in all aspects of the system. Hayfield and its cheating football and the horrowshow it has caused, plus cover-up by administration, is a dark stain on FCPS!

This wasn’t about integrity. This was more about privilege and entitlement.


No, it was the false entitlement of Coach Overton and all around him (who wrongfully believe that white privilege is involved) that broke the overriding more important integrity of the FCPS system---enabled in part by DEI gone amok!

The entitlement is feeling that a Black coach and Black kids aren’t allowed to play by the same rules as a white coach and white kids. The privilege is when high ranking FCPS members violate the Black coaches and players to appease white supremacists in the county that so badly want to stop the program from winning a championship.


Wait, what? So you're ok with a coach doing what he did just because he's black?!?!? If you know of others, report them.

There has been no proof that he violated any rules. All his players were eligible even after the VHSL got involved. They barred the team from the post season because the team had too many transfers. Transfers are allowed and when they investigated the transfers, they were found to be legit.


Everything you just wrote appears to be unequivocally false based on the reporting I've seen.
Can you share where you are getting your facts from? MANY of the transfers were illegitimate

If they were illegitimate, why would they still allow the kids to compete?



VHSL didn't.

Maybe stay in your lane.

The VHSL allowed Hayfield to finish the season, they just didn’t want them winning the championship.






What a laughably stupid comment. It was the other FCPS coaches who met with Reid and threatened to forfeit their first round playoff games after they showed her the text messages from Monty Fritts that forced her hand, (after the FCPS court let them play) Then the Fairfax Times dropped those messages a few days later. Dr. Thompson knew the jig was up, and he withdrew Hayfield from the playoffs. The VHSL did its job, and enforced its rules.

They were scared to play. A good coach will prepare their team as best as possible. Then hold their heads high and compete.


A good coach develops his own players and doesn't have to ship 20+ in to win. That you don't understand that speaks volumes.

He didn’t ship anyone in. With that small salary of his, he can’t afford to move any kids into a school zone. The kid’s parents would’ve had to do that.


It is so cute that you are still clinging to this false narrative. Do go on.
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Anonymous wrote:The Champe kid was also repeatedly turned away by Westfield’s administration until the family finally figured out a way in. Unlike Hayfield, Westfield has been actively denying athletic transfers instead of finding ways to get around the rules.

So they kept denying the kids knowing they wanted to come there for athletics, but they found a way in and the school is now allowing them to participate in athletics. Sounds like the kids transferred for athletics to me.


Wow, your reading comprehension skills are trash. I feel bad for you.
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Anonymous wrote:The Champe kid was also repeatedly turned away by Westfield’s administration until the family finally figured out a way in. Unlike Hayfield, Westfield has been actively denying athletic transfers instead of finding ways to get around the rules.

So they kept denying the kids knowing they wanted to come there for athletics, but they found a way in and the school is now allowing them to participate in athletics. Sounds like the kids transferred for athletics to me.


Wow, your reading comprehension skills are trash. I feel bad for you.

Your life comprehension skills are trash.
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