Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is doubting the severity of the crime. The question is whether it's appropriate to charge 15-year-olds as adults. Some people seem to think that the size of the juvenile is a relevant factor.

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And they are not ashamed to say so

Some people also seem to think that juvenile detention centers are for "minor" crimes like shoplifting and vandalism.

Prosecuting children as adults is what weak, "tough on crime" prosecutors do. It appeals to the American thirst for vengeance, but is bad for recidivism, and only serves to destroy the futures of young lives. It's a punitive act taken before the youth is even found guilty. It will likely remove the opportunity of an education and mental health services from the youth ensuring that there is little hope of rehabilitation or a decent future. We just don't believe in redemption in this country.

Fortunately, there is a movement throughout the country to stop the experiment of prosecuting children as adults. The experiment has not worked. We have juvenile courts for a reason. It should be used for all juveniles, and be designed to handle all juveniles.

They violently raped multiple boys.

They do not belong in the juvenile court system.

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

In this case they are adults.

What is wrong with your logic and how do you not understand the despicable deviant nature of their adult crime?

They are not adults, they are children. It's not logic. It's just what they are.

Crimes are not "adult" or "child" crimes. Are you suggesting they are magically not children because they did something bad? Sorry pal, they are still children.

I never indicated that I don't understand their crimes. It's not beyond the juvenile justice system to administer justice to any child. In fact, if a child does something horrendous, that's when we really need the services of the juvenile justice system.

+1. No matter what the crime, they are still children. That doesn't mean they should not receive penalties. But they are children.

omg - enough with this bs!

NORMAL children do not RAPE other children. Again, too few of you dingdongs aren't placing yourself in the role of the victims' parents. How often must I ask this question? HOW forgiving would you be if your son had been sodomized with brooms by these vile young men?

Being 15 doesn't mean you're necessarily naive.

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Anonymous wrote:"Extraordinarily violent and cruel" That's why they are being charged as adults.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/extraordinarily-violent-and-cruel-prosecutor-describes-sex-assault-case-at-damascus-high-school/2018/11/26/a48dde98-f19d-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.c8ee20c1b894

Interesting that the charges have been changed: "When initially charged as adults, each faced at least two counts of first-degree rape. Feeney said in court Monday the charges would be changed, reflecting a single count of first-degree rape, three counts of attempted first-degree rape, and the conspiracy count."

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Anonymous wrote:"Extraordinarily violent and cruel" That's why they are being charged as adults.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/extraordinarily-violent-and-cruel-prosecutor-describes-sex-assault-case-at-damascus-high-school/2018/11/26/a48dde98-f19d-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.c8ee20c1b894

So when girls are raped it's not considered violent and cruel.

So typical of our states attorney's office.

Grandstanding.

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Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

The case was thrown out because the community doesn't value female and doesn't want illegal immigrants to be proscuted.

It got thrown out because there are text messages to the boys asking them to have sex.

if you want to talk about a real case the Richard Montgomery case is a real case where they did not value the female.

Haven't you liberals learned anything from this past year?

If she changed her mind and said no at any point, it is still rape.

She didn't change her mind she was just trying to get out of trouble for being late for class.

You know girls lie right.

5 girls at Seneca lied about a rape.

Or are you liberal and #believeher without evidence

No girl or woman would voluntarily put a guys privates in her mouth after she was raped by it during her period.

There is no way she consented to what happened to her. Shameful that you want to rewrite what happened to avoid a controversy for your school and the non traditionally aged students.

absolutely

There's MUCH more to that story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

The case was thrown out because the community doesn't value female and doesn't want illegal immigrants to be proscuted.

It got thrown out because there are text messages to the boys asking them to have sex.

if you want to talk about a real case the Richard Montgomery case is a real case where they did not value the female.

Haven't you liberals learned anything from this past year?

If she changed her mind and said no at any point, it is still rape.

She didn't change her mind she was just trying to get out of trouble for being late for class.

You know girls lie right.

5 girls at Seneca lied about a rape.

Or are you liberal and #believeher without evidence

No girl or woman would voluntarily put a guys privates in her mouth after she was raped by it during her period.

There is no way she consented to what happened to her. Shameful that you want to rewrite what happened to avoid a controversy for your school and the non traditionally aged students.

You do know the police report is just her lie.

Have you read the report after the investigation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

The case was thrown out because the community doesn't value female and doesn't want illegal immigrants to be proscuted.

It got thrown out because there are text messages to the boys asking them to have sex.

if you want to talk about a real case the Richard Montgomery case is a real case where they did not value the female.

Haven't you liberals learned anything from this past year?

If she changed her mind and said no at any point, it is still rape.

She didn't change her mind she was just trying to get out of trouble for being late for class.

You know girls lie right.

5 girls at Seneca lied about a rape.

Or are you liberal and #believeher without evidence

No girl or woman would voluntarily put a guys privates in her mouth after she was raped by it during her period.

There is no way she consented to what happened to her. Shameful that you want to rewrite what happened to avoid a controversy for your school and the non traditionally aged students.

absolutely

There's MUCH more to that story.

Like she lied to the reporting officer and the story in the police report is a lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Extraordinarily violent and cruel" That's why they are being charged as adults.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/extraordinarily-violent-and-cruel-prosecutor-describes-sex-assault-case-at-damascus-high-school/2018/11/26/a48dde98-f19d-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.c8ee20c1b894

So when girls are raped it's not considered violent and cruel.

So typical of our states attorney's office.

Grandstanding.

It isn't saying that it was worse than what might happen to a girl, just that this instance was extraordinarily violent and cruel. All rapes are violent and cruel, some are extraordinarily so. I'm assuming that what made this case extraordinary was the group holding them down component as opposed to one person overpowering another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Extraordinarily violent and cruel" That's why they are being charged as adults.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/extraordinarily-violent-and-cruel-prosecutor-describes-sex-assault-case-at-damascus-high-school/2018/11/26/a48dde98-f19d-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.c8ee20c1b894

So when girls are raped it's not considered violent and cruel.

So typical of our states attorney's office.

Grandstanding.

It isn't saying that it was worse than what might happen to a girl, just that this instance was extraordinarily violent and cruel. All rapes are violent and cruel, some are extraordinarily so. I'm assuming that what made this case extraordinary was the group holding them down component as opposed to one person overpowering another.

So why didn't the states attorney stand up on the steps of the courthouse and declare the security guard that raped the girl at RM was horrible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

The case was thrown out because the community doesn't value female and doesn't want illegal immigrants to be proscuted.

It got thrown out because there are text messages to the boys asking them to have sex.

if you want to talk about a real case the Richard Montgomery case is a real case where they did not value the female.

Haven't you liberals learned anything from this past year?

If she changed her mind and said no at any point, it is still rape.

She didn't change her mind she was just trying to get out of trouble for being late for class.

You know girls lie right.

5 girls at Seneca lied about a rape.

Or are you liberal and #believeher without evidence

No girl or woman would voluntarily put a guys privates in her mouth after she was raped by it during her period.

There is no way she consented to what happened to her. Shameful that you want to rewrite what happened to avoid a controversy for your school and the non traditionally aged students.

absolutely

There's MUCH more to that story.

Like she lied to the reporting officer and the story in the police report is a lie.

No young girl would put herself through this unless there was a backstory.

[Anonymous]

State's Attorney John McCarthy answers question on the case:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=62&v=vnJHglum1vI

[Anonymous]

We live in an area about 10 miles from a juvenile facility. There have been multiple reports of the "kids" abusing each other, raping teachers, one teacher was even murdered. The juvenile facilities in this area (Maryland) are a joke and these violent rapists do not belong in one.

Here is an example though it is not the center we live near:

https://foxbaltimore.com/features/operation-crime-justice/violence-inside-baltimores-juvenile-detention-center

[Anonymous]

Here's a story about the teacher who was murdered in a juvenile detention center:

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/maryland-state-police-investigating-situation-at-frederick-detention-center

[Anonymous]

Sorry that other link doesn't seem to work:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-03-18/news/bal-cheltenham0318_1_death-of-hannah-wheeling-demoted-juvenile-services

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Extraordinarily violent and cruel" That's why they are being charged as adults.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/extraordinarily-violent-and-cruel-prosecutor-describes-sex-assault-case-at-damascus-high-school/2018/11/26/a48dde98-f19d-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.c8ee20c1b894

So when girls are raped it's not considered violent and cruel.

So typical of our states attorney's office.

Grandstanding.

It isn't saying that it was worse than what might happen to a girl, just that this instance was extraordinarily violent and cruel. All rapes are violent and cruel, some are extraordinarily so. I'm assuming that what made this case extraordinary was the group holding them down component as opposed to one person overpowering another.

So why didn't the states attorney stand up on the steps of the courthouse and declare the security guard that raped the girl at RM was horrible?

I do not know as I'm not the state's attorney. All I'm talking about is this instance. I don't know anything about the RM situation.

[Anonymous]

Our prison system is so fckd. Might as well lock them up forever, because otherwise when they get out they’ll have been made into the perfect career criminals